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Title: GOP rep: 'No president is allowed to burn the First Amendment’
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3 ... ed-to-burn-the-first-amendment
Published: Nov 30, 2016
Author: Mark Hensch
Post Date: 2016-11-30 19:10:50 by Hondo68
Keywords: Impeach Trump, scofflaw, hates BOR
Views: 110668
Comments: 265

GOP rep: 'No president is allowed to burn the First Amendment’

© Greg Nash

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) on Tuesday defended the constitutionality of flag burning, saying President-elect Donald Trump would violate freedom of speech if he cracked down on it.

"Nobody should burn the American flag, but our Constitution secures our right to do so. No president is allowed to burn the First Amendment," Amash tweeted.

Trump earlier Tuesday floated severe penalties for flag burning, mentioning loss of citizenship or a year in jail.

“Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!” he tweeted.

Trump did not specify what inspired his 7 a.m. tweet about flag burning, which is considered protected speech under U.S. law. The Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. Johnson in 1989 that burning the American flag is allowed under the First Amendment.

A spokesman for Trump on Tuesday said he agrees with Trump that the controversial act should be outlawed.

“I think most Americans would agree with me that flag burning should be illegal. It’s completely despicable,” Jason Miller told CNN’s “New Day."

Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.) told CNN he disagrees with Trump, though.

“I don’t think we want to make this a legal issue. So I disagree with Mr. Trump on that, and the court is probably right," Duffy said.

“I think the court is probably right that we want to protect those people who want to protest and their right to actually demonstrate with disgracing our flag, even though so many of us who love our country and love our flag object to it.”

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) also split with Trump and defended flag burning as free speech.

“We have a First Amendment right. We’ll protect our First Amendment. That’s what the court has upheld,” he said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Tuesday.


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#179. To: hondo68 (#0)

Weren't Trumps comments just an example of how strongly he feels about flag burning. It reflects what many would say and feel. That is why we have divided government, so crazy ideas are not implemented. People are just afraid now because of the Imperial Presidency we have had on and off since Lincoln(on), Coolidge(off), FDR(on), Johnson/Nixon/Reagan/Bushes/Clinton/Obama(all on)

jeremiad  posted on  2016-12-11   12:43:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: jeremiad (#179)

the Imperial Presidency we have had on and off since Lincoln(on), Coolidge(off), FDR(on), Johnson/Nixon/Reagan/Bushes/Clinton/Obama(all on)

Not a good record.

Trump's comment about jail time is bad enough, but the idea of "loss of citizenship" is too much. Most of us were born in the USA of citizen parents. What would one be if they lost US citizenship, United Nations citizens?

Where would they deport someone who's not a citizen of any country? Some dopey kid who burned a US flag, would likely become radicalized. If you just laughed at them, they'd likely outgrow it in a few years and become a great American.

The "cure" is worse than the disease.

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-11   13:26:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: hondo68 (#187)

"Where would they deport someone who's not a citizen of any country?"

Well, they obviously hate the United States. So they must believe there are other countries they'd prefer. Ask them to pick one and we'll work something out with that country.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-11   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: misterwhite, Obamas Canaries, Tyranny Worship, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#189) (Edited)

they obviously hate the United States.

No, most likely they just hate the corrupt unconstitutional government.

You seem to love Obama and worship his tyrannical regime, but you're in the minority.

Love the USA, but hate the rotten D&R government.

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-11   14:35:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: hondo68 (#191)

"No, most likely they just hate the corrupt unconstitutional government."

The American flag represents the country, not the current government. If you "Love the USA, but hate the rotten D&R government", then find something else to burn.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-11   15:08:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: misterwhite, tpaine, Thomas Paine (#192)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-11   15:20:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: hondo68 (#193)

Right. By burning the symbol of your country.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-11   15:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: misterwhite (#194)

By burning the symbol of your country.

Protecting our country includes the symbol such as flag burning to make an explicit perspective that there is whole lot of wrongs by the US Government that are not addressed by politicians.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-12-11   15:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: buckeroo (#195)

"Protecting our country includes the symbol such as flag burning to make an explicit perspective that there is whole lot of wrongs by the US Government that are not addressed by politicians."

Liberal clap-trap gobbledygook.

You don't like the government? Burn something else.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-11   17:16:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: misterwhite (#196)

clap-trap gobbledygook

With a government closing free expression, that you agree with, no wonder the place has turned into a tyrannical do-nothing failure for all the world to see.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-12-11   17:40:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: buckeroo (#197)

"With a government closing free expression"

Do you mean banning "hate speech"?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-11   18:56:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: misterwhite (#198)

Explain "hate speech" and the authority of Congress to close the obvious "loop holes."

buckeroo  posted on  2016-12-11   19:43:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#218. To: buckeroo (#200)

"Explain "hate speech" and the authority of Congress to close the obvious "loop holes."

Whatever it is, Congress banned it. And my position is that flag burning is hate speech and should also be banned.

Or, conversely, both hate speech and flag burning should be allowed. Your choice.

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