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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Trump denounces flag burning
Source: USA Today
URL Source: http://usat.ly/2gEiD9k
Published: Nov 29, 2016
Author: David M Jackson
Post Date: 2016-11-29 11:36:29 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 8767
Comments: 28

Although the Supreme Court has declared flag burning to be a constitutionally protected form of free speech, Donald Trump said Tuesday he still wants to make the practice illegal.

"Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag," the president-elect tweeted Tuesday. "If they do, there must be consequences — perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

It's not known what inspired Trump's condemnation of flag burning, or whether he will call on Congress to attempt a new law banning it.

While the Supreme Court has upheld flag burning, Trump will have at least one appointment to that body and has a chance to alter the court's ideological direction.

Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 29, 2016

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#2. To: All (#0)

"Donald Trump said Tuesday he still wants to make the practice illegal."

Let's keep flag burning legal, but not prosecute anyone who takes action against the flag burner. We avoid a constitutional conflict, free speech is protected (on all sides), and it provides a "teaching moment" -- Actions Have Consequences.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-29   11:42:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

Is flag burner burning free speech?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-11-29   11:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Roscoe (#3)

"Is flag burner burning free speech?"

Yes it is.

And even though some may object -- especially the flag burner -- we must remember that ALL speech is protected, even speech with which we disagree.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-29   12:06:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite, Roscoe (#4)

"Is flag burner burning free speech?"

Yes it is.

Unreal - apparently you two fascists don't see the difference between physically harming a person and making a statement by burning a piece of cloth.

And even though some may object -- especially the flag burner -- we must remember that ALL speech is protected, even speech with which we disagree.

So "freedom of speech" to you is to set fire to those whose speech offends you?

Bizarre!

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-29   13:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#10)

"Unreal - apparently you two fascists don't see the difference between physically harming a person and making a statement by burning a piece of cloth."

But you do see a difference, right? Just like there's a difference between physically harming a person and simply saying words.

Some redneck can walk up to a black guy and call him a nigger and the black guy can't harm him, right? There's a difference between words and hitting, right?

If he did hit him and it went to court, would the judge see a difference between the two acts?

Yeah. Right. Kiss my ass with your "difference".

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-29   13:59:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#12)

Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire

Roscoe  posted on  2016-11-29   14:01:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Roscoe (#13)

"Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire"

" ... and the insulting or "fighting" words those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

Burning the American flag in public sure fits that definition.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-29   14:25:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: misterwhite (#15)

Burning the American flag in public sure fits that definition.

And if the USSC refuses to apply its doctrine to flag burning, then Congress may require the Court to do so. Article 3, Section 2, Clause 2.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-11-29 14:49:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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