politics and politicians
See other politics and politicians Articles
Title: Trump “Impressed” by Convicted Criminal David Petraeus
Source:
Another Day In The Empire
URL Source: http://anotherdayintheempire.com/tr ... icted-criminal-david-petraeus/
Published: Nov 28, 2016
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2016-11-29 10:04:02 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 5650
Comments: 16
Remember when Donald Trump got on Hillary’s case for the email scandal and her handling of classified material? On Monday, Trump talked with David Petraeus, the former Army general, and director of the CIA who was convicted of a misdemeanor after he shared a “massive amount” of classified information with his girlfriend and biographer, Paula Broadwell. Petraeus got off easy. The Justice Department wanted to file felony charges for lying to the FBI and violating a section of the Espionage Act, but settled on a hand slap. Trump apparently believes Petraeus’ criminal behavior is not an issue: Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Just met with General Petraeus--was very impressed! The establishment media also gave Petraeus a free ticket. USA Today mentioned his transgression—he delivered to Broadwell eight black books containing classified and unclassified notes he took during meetings, conferences and briefings—then the corporate newspaper flipped over to highlighting why he should be the next secretary of state. He would bring a lifetime of military and diplomatic experience at the highest levels, having commanded U.S.-led forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan. He is credited with tamping violence in Iraq for a time by instituting a counterinsurgency strategy and a “surge” of U.S. forces there. The crimes of David Petraeus are excusable, of course, because he is a valued member of the ruling political class. Consider the response to similar behavior engaged in by Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Chelsea Manning. Politicians and the establishment media have called for Assange and Snowden to be executed. Manning received a 35 year sentence for violating the Espionage Act.
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Petraeus would be the best choice for that role. Romney is a hack. Giuliani is a thug. Petraeus has enormous foreign policy experience, and is a subtle thinker. He had a midlife crisis and had an affair with a pretty girl, who was not a spy. He acted stupidly and was punished for it. He won't do anything like that again. He has decades of pertinent experience, and he's not a political hack. Trump would do well to rehabilitate him and make him Secretary of State. A military-toned cabinet is much better than a crony-capitalist-toned one. Once people have been punished, that need not exclude them from ever serving again. Just because somebody has not been caught in some sort of compromising position does not mean that man is suitable for leadership.
How is it even legal for someone like him to hold a security clearance?
BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
If you don't think Generals that obtained senior commands are political creatures,you don't understand much about General officers. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
i just see him as an accomplished man who let his dick control his brain for a while. And please don't compare him to sinkboy. I don't even want to have write the differences.
Trump has indicated his admiration for successful criminals like illegal aliens who've been here 20+ years. He wants to reward them with a green card. Petraeus is just another criminal awaiting his reward from The Donald. The message is, crime pays in the Trump administration, so keep at it and excel in your criminal activities, and you'll be rewarded! TRUMP WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems the elite, e.g. Hillary, operate on a different set of rules. He should not be eligible to have a clearance.
As a mitigating factor, Paula Broadwell was a military intelligence officer who was a Major and approved for promotion to Lt. Colonel and who held a Top Secret clearance, but did not have the proper access authorization or need to know the material to which she was given access. In contrast, Bradley (Chelsea) Manning delivered a trove of classified information to people with no clearance with the deliberate intent to have it published to the world.
Yeah,I thought we were voting for Trump to end all the insider "reach-arounds". Boy was *I* fooled! He should not be eligible to have a clearance. Exactly,and without a security clearance he can't be hired to dump the trash can in the room that will be his office. Bleep a bunch of freaking Generals! What needs to be done is start appointing retired career Special Forces Sergeant Majors as Sec of Defense and Sec of State. They know where the rubber meets the road,and damn few of them can be corrupted. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Is he/she/it/multiple choice being considered for Sec of State? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
No. But the article says, Politicians and the establishment media have called for Assange and Snowden to be executed. Manning received a 35 year sentence for violating the Espionage Act. The mentioned individuals do not give a good comparison. Snowden and Manning released stashes of info to people with no clearance to publish it online. Assange publishes information given to him by others. Petraeus improperly gave access to his biographer/lover. She was a military intelligence officer with a Top Secret clearance, but without the requisite access authorization or need to know for the information in question. She was not releasing the information to the world. Petraeus is guilty of an offense, and his act was knowing and intentional, but quite different from Snowden and Manning.
Not YET,anyhow. From what I remember reading at the time it was a big issue,she was writing a book about her stud muffin,so it is no unreasonable to assume at least some of the information would be in the book. Petraeus is guilty of an offense, and his act was knowing and intentional, but quite different from Snowden and Manning. I don't know if you were ever in the military or not,but it seems unlikely or you would understand how a senior General Officer doing something like this is MUCH more serious that some snowflake Spec 4 doing it. Petraeus has NO defense whatsoever. Nor does he have any sort of justification other than trying to take a bath in personal glory. On the other hand,Manning has a couple of defenses,one being that he/she/multiple choice is a freaking nutcase that thought he/she/it was doing the moral thing. On top of that,you can't blame Manning for being given that level of access to highly classified information. A senior General can't really use those defenses,can he? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Speaking of Chelsea Manning the little snowflake is asking for a get out of jail free card... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/us/politics/chelsea- manning-asks-obama-to-cut-sentence-to-time-served.html
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I didn't say he's not a political creature. I said he's not a political hack. Petraeus was a good general.
The information was for background and was never inclusion in the book. Te book was published before the scandal. The proof is in the book, (All In: The Education of General David Petraeus). That does not excuse Petraeus. Paula Broadwell was not authorized to see the information. He knowingly put stuff in her possession that belonged in a SCF. I am of the opinion that he should not have a clearance and should not be Secretary of State for that reason. Yes. He pleaded guilty and was convicted. nolu chan, USN (Ret.) Any actual damage from the actions of Petraeus was minimal, but he knowingly and intentionally let an unauthorized person have access to very highly classified information. He did the deed and had no defense. As a senior general, Petraeus' actions cannot be overlooked. He must be held accountable. Aside from taking a bath in personal glory, there was doing the horizontal bop with Paula Broadwell. Manning does not have any legal defense. He may be a nut case, but he knows right from wrong. Manning has mitigating circumstances to be considered at sentencing. Manning delivered the motherlode to Wikileaks for publication to the world. Manning may have done what he thought was the moral thing, but his actions also show that he knew what he was doing was an illegal thing for which he coud be, and was, prosecuted. Petraeus pleaded guilty. He did not use any defense. He had mitigating information for criminal sentencing. That is not to imply that he should again be given access to the most highly sensitive compartmented information. In reality, senior officers get away with many things just by RHIP. btw, on another thread I saw you reference with uncertain recall a crypto machine you worked with as being a KW-7 and didn't get around to confirming it. That would be a correct recollection, the KW-7/Orestes was widely used for the 82B1 circuitry, and later for point-to-point circuitry. 82B1 was phased out in the 60's by the military and replaced by AUTODIN which required KW-26/Romulus. The current State Department format is the ACP-127 format which was used by the military with the 82B1 system. AUTODIN used a different format set forth in JANAP 128. It's just conjecture, but State may have inherited the 82B1 stuff when the military phased it out.
My career as a communications center specialist was thankfully VERY brief. I didn't bother to confirm it was a KW-7 because frankly I didn't think anyone would care. Too much of a "inside baseball" thing. I MAY have worked as a com center specialist a total of a month after graduating from Signal School at Ft.Gordon. I am just not temperamentally suited to working with a bunch of office twits and playing their "He-Bitch" games. I went to a line company,and spent the rest of my time in the army as a pretty happy camper. Things weren't perfect,but nobody was playing military school ego games and I was treated like an adult. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
He has decades of pertinent experience, and he's not a political hack.
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
#5. To: Deckard, crime pays with Trump (#0)
Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
#6. To: hondo68, deckard (#5)
#7. To: sneakypete, Deckard (#2)
How is it even legal for someone like him to hold a security clearance?
#8. To: Deckard (#0)
On Monday, Trump talked with David Petraeus, the former Army general, and director of the CIA who was convicted of a misdemeanor after he shared a “massive amount” of classified information with his girlfriend and biographer, Paula Broadwell.
#9. To: nolu chan (#7)
(Edited)
It seems the elite, e.g. Hillary, operate on a different set of rules.
#10. To: nolu chan (#8)
In contrast, Bradley (Chelsea) Manning delivered a trove of classified information to people with no clearance with the deliberate intent to have it published to the world.
#11. To: sneakypete (#10)
Is he/she/it/multiple choice being considered for Sec of State?
Consider the response to similar behavior engaged in by Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Chelsea Manning.
#12. To: nolu chan (#11)
Petraeus improperly gave access to his biographer/lover. She was a military intelligence officer with a Top Secret clearance, but without the requisite access authorization or need to know for the information in question.She was not releasing the information to the world.
#13. To: sneakypete (#12)
#14. To: sneakypete (#3)
If you don't think Generals that obtained senior commands are political creatures,you don't understand much about General officers.
#15. To: sneakypete (#12)
Not YET,anyhow. From what I remember reading at the time it was a big issue,she was writing a book about her stud muffin,so it is no unreasonable to assume at least some of the information would be in the book.
Petraeus is guilty of an offense, and his act was knowing and intentional, but quite different from Snowden and Manning.
I don't know if you were ever in the military or not,but it seems unlikely or you would understand how a senior General Officer doing something like this is MUCH more serious that some snowflake Spec 4 doing it. Petraeus has NO defense whatsoever. Nor does he have any sort of justification other than trying to take a bath in personal glory.
On the other hand,Manning has a couple of defenses,one being that he/she/multiple choice is a freaking nutcase that thought he/she/it was doing the moral thing. On top of that,you can't blame Manning for being given that level of access to highly classified information.
A senior General can't really use those defenses,can he?
#16. To: nolu chan (#15)
(Edited)
btw, on another thread I saw you reference with uncertain recall a crypto machine you worked with as being a KW-7
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
[Home] [Headlines] [Latest Articles] [Latest Comments] [Post] [Mail] [Sign-in] [Setup] [Help] [Register]