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Title: Girl suspended from school for cutting peach with child butter knife
Source: WTAJ-TV, Altoona
URL Source: http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/ ... -peach-with-child-butter-knife
Published: Nov 18, 2016
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2016-11-23 05:33:05 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 42866
Comments: 74

Police turn investigation over to Florida State Attorney's Office

A South Florida couple is outraged after they said their daughter was suspended from her middle school for using a child butter knife at lunchtime to cut a peach, Local10.com reported.

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 "There's no one there trying to educate and to be reasonable to say, 'Let's work this out,'" the girl's father, Ronald Souto, said.

 Souto's daughter is an honor roll student at Silver Trail Middle School in Pembroke Pines.

"She's always trying to help someone. She's always trying to share things," Souto said about his daughter.

Ronald and Andrea Souto told Local 10 News reporter Michael Seiden that their 11-year-old daughter was suspended for six days for bringing the knife to school.

"This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," Andrea Souto said. "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly. She's used it since she was baby."

According to the school district, the girl violated the county's weapon policy when she used her butter knife in the cafeteria to cut the peach. 

"The friend asked for half of the peach and she cuts half of the peach and gives to her friend. She goes to the bathroom and comes back and the guy said, 'Follow me,'" Ronald Souto said.

Ronald said he hopes what happened to his daughter will bring change to the district, specifically new polices when it comes to weapons.

He's not alone. 

"I think the principal should revisit this and everyone (should) sit down to the table, and let's just say, 'Don't do it again.' This is outrageous to go to that extreme," Melvin J. Smith, whose grandson attends the school, said.

The Soutos said they were shocked about the suspension and are now concerned that their daughter's act of kindness could lead to criminal charges.

"She's afraid now of the educators. She's afraid of people at school. They need to change the system," Ronald Souto said.

A Broward County school district spokeswoman declined to offer specifics about the incident because of "student privacy," but said, "The school followed district policy regarding this incident and continues to work with the student and parents involved.  It is the district's priority to maintain safe and secure campuses for students and staff at all times."

The Pembroke Pines Police Department said it has turned over their investigation to the State Attorney's Office.

It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case.

"The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. "It is tragic that a school that this little girl loves sees fit to prosecute and suspend her -- the epitome of a model and honor roll student -- for using a child-proof utensil that could never be construed in any form as a weapon in order to share part of her lunch with a fellow classmate.

"This item at all times was used in the school's lunch room as it should be -- to cut a peach and share lunch with a friend," he added. "She should be applauded for her generosity, kindness and for her motivation to be a great student in all senses of that word.

"The only harm that has been exacted in this case is by Silver Trail Middle School and the Broward County School Board upon one of its finest students and upon one who exemplifies the type of person and student it wishes to help create. It is truly senseless and does reflects poorly upon the type of educators and law enforcement involved in this case." (1 image)

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

What the girl’s mother said to the media after the incident:

"This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," [….] "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly.”
What the girls’s mother should have said to the girl before the incident:
This is a Silver Trail Middle School Rules Book for school children – all ages. [….] "It is made for children to learn how to follow school rules properly….you read the rules and follow them.”

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   10:00:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

Attaboy!

Once again Gatlin cheers the State for labeling an innocent child a criminal.

You are a real establishment tool.

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-23   10:03:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#3) (Edited)

The girl’s parents had a copy of the rules, every parent with a child in the school did. The parents probably didn’t even read it, they probably couldn’t even find it if they wanted to.

The whiney mother is no doubt the type of mother who would tell the cop who stopped her for doing 45 mph in a 15 mph school zone: “But officer I am ONLY driving a SMALL Volkswagen.”

A butter knife is a WEAPON and has been used to stab someone to death. A Texas man fatally stabbed of his wife’s teenage lover with a butter knife. There are other cases where a butter knife was used.

You Paultard libertarian assholes do not live in your OWN world, you can’t decide which rules and laws you choose to follow and which you choose to ignore.

Well, I guess you can….but then: “Breaking Rules has Consequences!”

Always remember that …

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   10:08:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4)

A butter knife is a WEAPON and has been used to stab someone to death.

This was a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old

Take your "zero tolerance" nonsense and stick it up your ass.

Common sense should prevail in instances like this one.

It's PC assholes like you who instigated this bullshit in the first place.

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-23   10:12:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#5)

Common sense should prevail in instances like this one.

Ready. Fire! Aim.

The school has no discretion. It is district policy coming from on high.

Zero-tolerance policies did not sprout from nowhere. Litigious parents tend to sue whenever their precious snowflake gets any form of punishment. Zero-tolerance was the result. There is no interpretation of the rule whatever to be made. There is no discretion afforded in enforcement. Do not bring a knife to school. Zero tolerance rules are made for nonsensical parents who exercise no common sense.

http://www.local10.com/education/girl-suspended-from-middle-school-for-cutting-peach-with-child-butter-knife

A Broward County school district spokeswoman declined to offer specifics about the incident because of "student privacy," but said, "The school followed district policy regarding this incident and continues to work with the student and parents involved. It is the district's priority to maintain safe and secure campuses for students and staff at all times."

The Pembroke Pines Police Department said it has turned over their investigation to the State Attorney's Office.

It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case.

"The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. "It is tragic that a school that this little girl loves sees fit to prosecute and suspend her -- the epitome of a model and honor roll student -- for using a child-proof utensil that could never be construed in any form as a weapon in order to share part of her lunch with a fellow classmate.

http://www.guns.com/2016/11/18/zero-tolerance-weapons-policies-are-absurd-leave-no-room-for-explanation/

The girl received a suspension for six days as a result of the system’s weapons policy.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-23   19:39:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard, nolu chan, A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

A straight-A Utah high school student brouht a knife to school then stabbed five boys in the school's locker room before stabbing himself and the bleeding heart libertarian assholes on LF post nothing about it and neither do they make a comment after I post it.

Yet a girl brings this 3-inch steel blade knife to school and the bleeding heart libertarian assholes get their panties all wadded up between their crotch and start moaning and crying trying to pass it off as a teeny-tiny “wittle” butter knife a very small infant uses to learn how to eat.

Look at the picture. There is nothing there to garner the description as a “butter knife.” That descriptive term was coined by the author to downplay the potential danger of the knife. Look at the picture and you will see a STANDARD stainless steel knife, fork and spoon set with, judging by the length of the handle in proportion, a blade length of at least 3 inches or more.

The school the girl attends has a written police that NO KNIVES OF ANY KIND will be brought to school. The school where the boy who stabbed 5 students also has a written policy that no knives of any kind will be brought to school Don’t you think the parents of the 5 stabbed students wish someone had discovered the boy with the knife before the stabbings and suspended him for six days?

But the bleeding heart libertarian assholes may contend that the young girl had no intention of stabbing anyone. Well they could have said that about the young kid that did the stabbing….until he did the stabbing.

It is as nolu chan posted:

Zero-tolerance policies did not sprout from nowhere. Litigious parents tend to sue whenever their precious snowflake gets any form of punishment. Zero- tolerance was the result. There is no interpretation of the rule whatever to be made. There is no discretion afforded in enforcement. Do not bring a knife to school [ANY KNIFE[. Zero tolerance rules are made for nonsensical parents who exercise no common sense.
You Paultard libertarian assholes can continue to whimper, cry and attempt to discredit me as long as you want to….but it will do me no harm and I will not change my point of view. I will also continue to defend my position and say that a steel bladed knife should not be in a student's hand at school. You don’t believe that….then ask the parents of the 5 students who were stabbed to explain "why" to you.

Zero tolerance is there for a reason in this case. The reason has been demonstrated by the stabbing of 5 students.

Now suck it up, you Paultard libertarian assholes and face reality….don’t be swayed by some tear-jerking liberal biased agenda driven article yet another time.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   21:02:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Gatlin (#35)

Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions.

As a corollary, I would add: do not gun deck the acknowledgement form.

http://browardschools.com/SiteMedia/Docs/Info/CodeBook/FINAL_SY_2016-17_Revised_Code.pdf

The Code Book for Student Conduct 2016-2017, Broward County Public Schools

At ii:

Dear Students and Parents: As your Superintendent, I am dedicated to working with the staff, parents and community to meeting the educational needs of all students in a safe learning environment.

The Code of Student Conduct, Policy 5.8, provides specific information regarding the rules that all students are expected to adhere to, as well as consequences for violations of the policy set forth in this document. The Code of Student Conduct policy addresses expectations for all students in terms of consistent and timely attendance, respect for people and property, appropriate dress, technology usage, student publications, student activities, student records and the right to appeal, including grievance procedures. Please review all information in the Code of Student Conduct policy carefully and together discuss the consequences of violating the rules.

The Code of Student Conduct, Policy 5.8 will be distributed electronically. Students and parents are required to sign a statement indicating that they have received their Code of Student Conduct booklet, are aware of the explanation of rules it provides in policy, and have selected their options for media and directory information release.

At 71:

Use/Possession/Transmittal of Class B weapons include, but not limited to:

Ammunition and any component thereof, including, but not limited to bullets, shotgun shells, bullet casings, magazine clips

Any instrument, tool, object or substance used in a threatening manner toward another person

Blunt bladed-table knives and common pocket knives. A common pocket knife is a knife that folds into its handle, with a blade measuring three (3) inches or less

Chains (i.e., household, industrial)

Chemical weapon or device such as pepper spray or mace with the capacity to hold two (2) ounces or less of the chemical

Flammable liquids or combustible materials

Nunchakus, Chinese stars

Other pointed instruments or sharp objects, other than school supplies (i.e., pencil, compass)

Pipe - A hollow cylinder or tube made of metal, wood, plastic or similar material

Slingshot - a hand-held and hand-powered device consisting of a frame with attached rubber strap/straps, used for shooting objects

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-24   0:47:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#58. To: nolu chan, Pinguinite, Deckard, all libtard assholes condemning the action by the school (#54)

Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions.
As a corollary, I would add: do not gun deck the acknowledgement form.

The Acknowledgement Form located at:

http://browardschools.com/SiteMedia/Docs/Info/CodeBook/Final-2016- 17_Signature_Forms_Code_of_Sudent_Conduct.pdf.
The Broward County Public Schools – Acknowledgement - Page 15 of 15
This booklet lists the District’s rules in Policy 5.8, for students in Broward County Public Schools. The rules apply to all activities occurring on school grounds, on other sites being used for school activities, and on any vehicles authorized totransport students. Your signature below does not indicate that you agree or disagree with the rules, but rather that you have reviewed the electronic copy of these rules (www.BrowardSchools.com/ index.asp). Return this form to school within 3 days from the first day of school or from the date of enrollment.

[…]

Signature / Date Blocks

The bold red is included as part of the acknowledgement….it was NOT added..

The parents HAD to sign this Acknowledgement Form before their child was admitted to the school.

The patents acknowledged they had reviewed the rules.

Therefore, they had to have known the girl was not allowed to take the knife to school.

The School Board’s suspension was without question authorized and justified.

You libtard assholes….just keep on whining….that is the only repercussion you have available.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-24 06:13:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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