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Title: Girl suspended from school for cutting peach with child butter knife
Source: WTAJ-TV, Altoona
URL Source: http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/ ... -peach-with-child-butter-knife
Published: Nov 18, 2016
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2016-11-23 05:33:05 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 36229
Comments: 74

Police turn investigation over to Florida State Attorney's Office

A South Florida couple is outraged after they said their daughter was suspended from her middle school for using a child butter knife at lunchtime to cut a peach, Local10.com reported.

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 "There's no one there trying to educate and to be reasonable to say, 'Let's work this out,'" the girl's father, Ronald Souto, said.

 Souto's daughter is an honor roll student at Silver Trail Middle School in Pembroke Pines.

"She's always trying to help someone. She's always trying to share things," Souto said about his daughter.

Ronald and Andrea Souto told Local 10 News reporter Michael Seiden that their 11-year-old daughter was suspended for six days for bringing the knife to school.

"This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," Andrea Souto said. "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly. She's used it since she was baby."

According to the school district, the girl violated the county's weapon policy when she used her butter knife in the cafeteria to cut the peach. 

"The friend asked for half of the peach and she cuts half of the peach and gives to her friend. She goes to the bathroom and comes back and the guy said, 'Follow me,'" Ronald Souto said.

Ronald said he hopes what happened to his daughter will bring change to the district, specifically new polices when it comes to weapons.

He's not alone. 

"I think the principal should revisit this and everyone (should) sit down to the table, and let's just say, 'Don't do it again.' This is outrageous to go to that extreme," Melvin J. Smith, whose grandson attends the school, said.

The Soutos said they were shocked about the suspension and are now concerned that their daughter's act of kindness could lead to criminal charges.

"She's afraid now of the educators. She's afraid of people at school. They need to change the system," Ronald Souto said.

A Broward County school district spokeswoman declined to offer specifics about the incident because of "student privacy," but said, "The school followed district policy regarding this incident and continues to work with the student and parents involved.  It is the district's priority to maintain safe and secure campuses for students and staff at all times."

The Pembroke Pines Police Department said it has turned over their investigation to the State Attorney's Office.

It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case.

"The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. "It is tragic that a school that this little girl loves sees fit to prosecute and suspend her -- the epitome of a model and honor roll student -- for using a child-proof utensil that could never be construed in any form as a weapon in order to share part of her lunch with a fellow classmate.

"This item at all times was used in the school's lunch room as it should be -- to cut a peach and share lunch with a friend," he added. "She should be applauded for her generosity, kindness and for her motivation to be a great student in all senses of that word.

"The only harm that has been exacted in this case is by Silver Trail Middle School and the Broward County School Board upon one of its finest students and upon one who exemplifies the type of person and student it wishes to help create. It is truly senseless and does reflects poorly upon the type of educators and law enforcement involved in this case." (1 image)

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

What the girl’s mother said to the media after the incident:

"This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," [….] "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly.”
What the girls’s mother should have said to the girl before the incident:
This is a Silver Trail Middle School Rules Book for school children – all ages. [….] "It is made for children to learn how to follow school rules properly….you read the rules and follow them.”

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   10:00:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

Attaboy!

Once again Gatlin cheers the State for labeling an innocent child a criminal.

You are a real establishment tool.

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-23   10:03:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#3)

It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case.
The school board had a rule against bringing a knife to school, bring ANY KNIFE to school. The rule did not say the only knife a student can bring to school is a butter knife. The school board was enforcing the rule the parents AGREED to.

Where was the school board not doing its job in this case?

…the school board isn't doing its job in this case.

Nah! It’s the girl’s parents who are not doing their job in this case.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   10:14:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#6)

Don't take this the wrong way, but you are clinically insane if you think what this girl did was a crime.

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-23   10:17:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#8)

I never said it was a crime.

I do say that her parnets had the rule book and they had agreed to follow the rules.

The rules stated that if she brings a knife to school, ANY KNIFE, then she will be suspended.

She brought a knife to school....she was suspended.

Case closed ...

Move along now ...

I am ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   10:27:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin (#9)

So.... You apparently think that:

1) The zero tolerance rule is a good rule;

2) The punishment dispense and proper and beneficial to society, and for the greater good.

Which shows you are a very useful lemming without any ability to think critically.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-11-23   11:13:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite (#10)

So.... You apparently think that:
1) The zero tolerance rule is a good rule;
2) The punishment dispense and proper and beneficial to society, and for the greater good.
There you go again, using the “apparently” word.

FYI: I don’t “apparently” think that …

Instead of always telling me what I “apparently” think….you could ask:

Do YOU think that:
1) The zero tolerance rule is a good rule?

But, nevermind….you said that you don’t ask direct questions.

So, I shall move n …

I continue to notice that you libertarians never ask a question to find out something, you too quickly “assume” that you already know the answer….and therefore automatically move to do an assumptive close on a person’s thought so you can tell them what they should and must think.

You weirdos never live in the real world, you can only survive in life through “abstractism” existing only in thought or idea but not having concrete realities and actual instances.

God help you …

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#15)

There you go again, using the “apparently” word.

Since it's all you've decided to offer on the topic, it's all we have to go by. If you felt your opinion of the zero tolerance rule might be sufficiently enlightening to the discussion, it's reasonable for us to think you'd post it without solicitation. As is, you instead post support for the school action and also condemnation of the parents and/or child, so the reasonable inference is that you consider that statement most significant contribution you could make.

For whatever reason, you apparently don't consider your opinion on the zero tolerance rule worth posting. That's fine with me, but I'm free to post whatever inference I receive as a result.

Instead of always telling me what I “apparently” think….

I'm actually telling everyone else what you apparently think. If it was just you and me on this forum, I'd say nothing.

If I owned the site, I'd ban you for being a complete waste of hot air.

Have a nice day.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-11-23   13:28:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite (#17)

I'm actually telling everyone else what you apparently think.

Do you think anyone is listening to you or they care…besides buckaroo and Deckard, of course?

If I owned the site, I'd ban you for being a complete waste of hot air.

Typical Paultard libertarian asshole goal….if you can’t control something, then destroy it.

Have a nice day.
Thank you, I always do….I have never had a bad one yet.

But then, of course, I am not a libertarian, so I really don’t know how a bad day feels….perhaps you can tell me sometime.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   13:47:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#19)

Do you think anyone is listening to you or they care…besides buckaroo and Deckard, of course?

You are right that it's probably few, but I'm confident more appreciate me than do you.

It is possible bozoing you is the best thing to do. My time is too valuable to spend responding to your hot air talking points, along with your childish "tard" name calling. And it seems your even older than I am too.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-11-23   13:58:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite, tater (#21)

It is possible bozoing you is the best thing to do.

DO NOT BOZO TATER!

You will miss the YUKS on a daily basis.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-23   14:04:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone, Gatlin (#22)

DO NOT BOZO TATER!

You will miss the YUKS on a daily basis.

No, after some more thought, I think it's the thing to do. At least for a while.

This is a throwing pearls before swine type thing. I have better things, productive things that I can do with my time, and having a stupid conversation, if it even qualifies as that, with Gatlin is not what I should be doing. Maybe he's got time to waste, but I don't.

It's apparent to me that Gatlin purposely responds to articles and others with the intent to inflame, not to offer any kind of constructive viewpoint. This has been demonstrated to my satisfaction on this thread where inferring his position on an article based on his early posts earned me an accusation of improper condemnation because he never explicitly expressed the opinion that I and everyone else inferred. Presumably it's somewhat different, but in spite of advocating he has been misrepresented, he nonetheless refused to voluntarily express that opinion without an engraved invitation because I guess he thinks he's special, or more likely, because he's wants to be an asshole. Which is fine if that's the case. To each his own.

But I don't want to reward it. It's much like feeding wildlife in a wilderness park. It's bad for them and you. As I said, I would ban Gatlin if this were my site. Site owners should certainly exercise the ban power cautiously when it comes to people they differ with politically. Having opposing viewpoints is valuable for any forum and personal bias can a proper decision hard. But that's not my burden. So... to bozo Gatlin goes.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-11-23   18:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)

That is the second time that Pinguinite has said he would ban me if this were his site. This time he pinged you as probably an inference that it is an action you should take.

As I have said many times, this is your site and I am here only at your pleasure. Anytime I do something you deem wrong, then of course you have the right to ban me….and that is the way it should be. It is the RULE, albeit an inferred one….IT IS STILL THE RULE.

I challenged Pinguinite on the issue of the girl bring the knife to school. And the candy-ass weakling got all upset because of the way I presented my position, or more so, the way I would not let him defend a position he wrongly held. If that pissed him off, as it obviously did….then that’s fine with me. If he doesn’t care to read my posts and respond to me….that’s also fine with me.

But I will never let anyone tell me WHAT TO THINK. I carefully consider my position and opinion and before I post it. I shoot all the holes in my argument that I can find in advance of posting it. Therefore, I seldom….if ever….change my position on anything.

I will continue to express my positions STRONGLY and if you find that is disrupting your forum, as Pinguinite has tried to point out to you….then I ask you to say so now. At which time I will immediately depart your forum or you can ban me.

But no candy assed weakling is going to stamp his feet, roll around on the floor and bawl about the way I argue against him and expect me to relent….for I will not. I WILL STAND MY GROUND.

You may respond to this post, if you so choose. If you do no choose to do so, I will consider that to be an okay for me to continue to post in the method I have been doing, and have at these self righteous assholes who always think they are right about everything and try to shove their philosophies and agendas down my throat.

Respectfully,
Gatlin

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   19:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Gatlin, hondo68, pinguinite, A K A Stone (#32)

That is the second time that Pinguinite has said he would ban me if this were his site.

I'll second that emotion, you tard.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-11-23   21:58:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#37)

That is the second time that Pinguinite has said he would ban me if this were his site.

I'll second that emotion, you tard.

Nothing you ever have to say counts for SHIT, Ethel....So, I don't GAF!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   22:04:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#38)

Clean up the language, tater peeler.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-11-23   22:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#39) (Edited)

Clean up the language, tater peeler.

No!

You DON'T tell ME what to do!

If you don't like it....don't read it!

Now...BUTT out....ASSHOLE!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-23   22:13:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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