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Title: Girl suspended from school for cutting peach with child butter knife
Source:
WTAJ-TV, Altoona
URL Source: http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/ ... -peach-with-child-butter-knife
Published: Nov 18, 2016
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2016-11-23 05:33:05 by Deckard
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Views: 42764
Comments: 74
A South Florida couple is outraged after they said their daughter was suspended from her middle school for using a child butter knife at lunchtime to cut a peach, Local10.com reported. "There's no one there trying to educate and to be reasonable to say, 'Let's work this out,'" the girl's father, Ronald Souto, said. Souto's daughter is an honor roll student at Silver Trail Middle School in Pembroke Pines. "She's always trying to help someone. She's always trying to share things," Souto said about his daughter. Ronald and Andrea Souto told Local 10 News reporter Michael Seiden that their 11-year-old daughter was suspended for six days for bringing the knife to school. "This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," Andrea Souto said. "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly. She's used it since she was baby." According to the school district, the girl violated the county's weapon policy when she used her butter knife in the cafeteria to cut the peach. "The friend asked for half of the peach and she cuts half of the peach and gives to her friend. She goes to the bathroom and comes back and the guy said, 'Follow me,'" Ronald Souto said. Ronald said he hopes what happened to his daughter will bring change to the district, specifically new polices when it comes to weapons. He's not alone. "I think the principal should revisit this and everyone (should) sit down to the table, and let's just say, 'Don't do it again.' This is outrageous to go to that extreme," Melvin J. Smith, whose grandson attends the school, said. The Soutos said they were shocked about the suspension and are now concerned that their daughter's act of kindness could lead to criminal charges. "She's afraid now of the educators. She's afraid of people at school. They need to change the system," Ronald Souto said. A Broward County school district spokeswoman declined to offer specifics about the incident because of "student privacy," but said, "The school followed district policy regarding this incident and continues to work with the student and parents involved. It is the district's priority to maintain safe and secure campuses for students and staff at all times." The Pembroke Pines Police Department said it has turned over their investigation to the State Attorney's Office. It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case. "The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. "It is tragic that a school that this little girl loves sees fit to prosecute and suspend her -- the epitome of a model and honor roll student -- for using a child-proof utensil that could never be construed in any form as a weapon in order to share part of her lunch with a fellow classmate. "This item at all times was used in the school's lunch room as it should be -- to cut a peach and share lunch with a friend," he added. "She should be applauded for her generosity, kindness and for her motivation to be a great student in all senses of that word. "The only harm that has been exacted in this case is by Silver Trail Middle School and the Broward County School Board upon one of its finest students and upon one who exemplifies the type of person and student it wishes to help create. It is truly senseless and does reflects poorly upon the type of educators and law enforcement involved in this case." Police turn investigation over to Florida State Attorney's Office
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#2. To: Deckard (#0)
What the girl’s mother said to the media after the incident:
Attaboy! Once again Gatlin cheers the State for labeling an innocent child a criminal. You are a real establishment tool.
The girl’s parents had a copy of the rules, every parent with a child in the school did. The parents probably didn’t even read it, they probably couldn’t even find it if they wanted to. The whiney mother is no doubt the type of mother who would tell the cop who stopped her for doing 45 mph in a 15 mph school zone: “But officer I am ONLY driving a SMALL Volkswagen.” A butter knife is a WEAPON and has been used to stab someone to death. A Texas man fatally stabbed of his wife’s teenage lover with a butter knife. There are other cases where a butter knife was used. You Paultard libertarian assholes do not live in your OWN world, you can’t decide which rules and laws you choose to follow and which you choose to ignore. Well, I guess you can….but then: “Breaking Rules has Consequences!” Always remember that …
This was a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old Take your "zero tolerance" nonsense and stick it up your ass. Common sense should prevail in instances like this one. It's PC assholes like you who instigated this bullshit in the first place.
It is still a God Damned KNIFE you stupid asshole. If it was used to cut a peach in half, and it was....it could be used to cut someone's throat. You STUPIDITY never ceases to amaze the internet world ...
A "God Damned KNIFE" you call it? Quite a characterization for the item in question. It's as though nothing else at the school has the remotest chance of being used to kill or maim? Are you also opposed to these kids having pencils and pens? What about those handheld pencil sharpeners? They actually contain steel cutting blades for God's sake! The chairs the kids sit in could easily be used to club any 5 year old to death! Are there windows in the class rooms? Break one and you instantly have a nasty cutting blade! String from art class -- My God.. Some student could use that to strangle someone! It's amazing any of us survived growing up in those war zones.
Schools don’t just arbitrarily make rules against bringing a knife to school, they usually have a good reason. Here is but one good reason: The 16-year-old suspect, a sophomore in his first year at Orem's Mountain View High School after being home-schooled, also stabbed himself in the neck. He was cornered Tuesday by school workers until a police officer assigned to the school got to the locker room and subdued him with a Taser shot. Police said it appeared the victims weren't singled out for any reason other than being nearby when the attack started. School district spokeswoman Kimberly Bird said there were no indications the suspect was having problems or being bullied, she said. Officials did not identify the suspect by name because of his age. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/16/utah-school-stabbing- leaves-5-injured-school-startled.html. Hey, Pinguinite, this student didn’t use a handheld pencil sharpener which actually contains a steel cutting blade and he didn’t use some glass from a broken window in a class room….he used a “God Damned Knife.” This kid that brought the knife to school was only a few years older than the girl who brought the butter knife to school. The school has a rule against bringing ANY knife to school....this kid didn't follow the rule, and look what happened. BTW: The article didn’t specify if the knife used to stab the students was a butter knife of not …
Well, Gatlin knives are not the only weapons of choice used these days in school. Sharp pencils can be a weapon. Your teeth can be used as a weapon. And so can your body be used as a weapon provided that you know how to fight to the very death. But you know what is more dangerous than a butter knife, your teeth, or your body as weapons? Ans: Your mind.
But you know what is more dangerous than a butter knife, your teeth, or your body as weapons? Ans: Your mind. Well, goldilucky, that's all well and good....your points. But the discussion here is about knives. Thank you ...
#30. To: Pinguinite (#29)
Okay, here is a summary of my position on this. I remember reading about a kid in school drawing the imagine of a gun on a piece of paper in the class room and the kid was suspended from school for that. I also remember two kids were playing cowboy in the school yard when one kid pointed a finger at the other with his index finger straight out and his thumb up so as to simulate a pistol. That kid was suspended also. In both these cases, those were STUPID RULES and should never have been written in first place. I can lay blame on a school for instituting those rules….but I place MORE blame on the parents of the kids for letting those rules stand. I say the parents should carefully study the book of rules they are required to sign and abide by each year and when they discover something as ridiculous as the rules I have just pointed out, they should go to the PTSB meeting and SCREAM like HELL to get those changed….BEFORE HAND! I feel that when the parents are united….they will accomplish that. On the other hand, I personally see good reason to have a rule prohibiting knives from being brought to school….I just linked you to one good reason and that was where a kid stabbed 5 classmates with a knife he brought to school. So I go for a rule against bringing knives to school. When a rule against knives being brought to school in order to prevent more stabbings is established, the problem then becomes how to write the rule. Then do you start making some exceptions and say a butter knife like this on for which the girl was suspended … … is okay because the steel blade is only 3 inches long? If you start making exceptions, you can wind up with a multitude of pages on exceptions listed. Then when a kid brings a butter knife with a 4 inch blade to school and is suspended, the parents cry and say that a 3 inch blade was okay and “Johnny” shouldn’t be suspended because the knife he brought to school was ONLY one inch longer. This could go on and on … If you go with drawing a knife or pointing a finger to simulate a pistol as being ridiculous….then I will stand up with you and “sing out” loudly against that. But if yu go with bringing a 3 inch (estimated from the picture) steel bladed knife to school and tryinb to down play the situation by calling it a “kids toy butter knife used for training” then you will stand alone and I will stand against you. If that makes me a “Hitler” as you say….then you can damned well throw your right arm up at a 45 degree angle with you palm facing down and start yelling Sieg Heil to me all day long. I have considered: Why do we need rules? Why do we have rules? Why do we follow rules? And after consideration, I feel the same as I did before. I confess, I am a “rules and law” person because I feel that rules and laws are important since they keep a society together and functioning. Rules and laws strive to maintain peace and safety among people and provide ways to resolve issues that do arise among individuals. Rules and laws are designed to keep people safe and free from harm, or they should be. So, I will end this by saying the girl brought a three inch steel bladed knife to school that cut through a peach….therefore it was sharp. If the school had simply said: “Well, sweet child, this is okay this time….but don’t bring it again. Then if that becomes the policy, just to warn, the next youngster may decide to bring his favorite five inch hunting knife to school to show a friend thinking all the time all he will get is a warning from doing so. I believe rules are rules and they should be well published. I also believe they should be reasonable. Furthermore, I also believe there should be enforcement of the rules, otherwise there should be no rules. On the other hand, I strongly believe if a rule is wrong….then the RULE MUST BE CHANGED. That is done every day, changing rules. It is not a hard thing to do. You may lower your right arm down now from the 45 degree angle, if you understand and agree with what I said. If you don’t….then I simply don’t know what else to say. I feel that I am a reasonable person….and I don’t feel that it is unfair to have rules and to enforce those rules. Again, as long as they are reasonable rules….and if they are not, then get them changed. If you still feel like you should place me on bozo….then just go ahead a do it.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest "This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," [….] "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly.”
What the girls’s mother should have said to the girl before the incident: This is a Silver Trail Middle School Rules Book for school children – all ages. [….] "It is made for children to learn how to follow school rules properly….you read the rules and follow them.”
#3. To: Gatlin (#2)
#4. To: Deckard (#3)
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#5. To: Gatlin (#4)
A butter knife is a WEAPON and has been used to stab someone to death.
#7. To: Deckard (#5)
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This was a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers
#12. To: Gatlin (#7)
It is still a God Damned KNIFE you stupid asshole.
If it was used to cut a peach in half, and it was....it could be used to cut someone's throat.
You STUPIDITY never ceases to amaze the internet world ...
#27. To: Pinguinite (#12)
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The Utah teenager suspected of stabbing five high school classmates in a boys' locker room before turning the knife on himself Tuesday was a straight-A student with no record of disciplinary trouble, police said.
#28. To: Gatlin (#27)
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#29. To: goldilucky (#28)
Well, Gatlin knives are not the only weapons of choice used these days in school. Sharp pencils can be a weapon. Your teeth can be used as a weapon. And so can your body be used as a weapon provided that you know how to fight to the very death.
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