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Title: Trump will NOT pursue investigations into Hillary: 'If Donald Trump can help her heal, then perhaps that's a good thing'
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... mp-help-heal-s-good-thing.html
Published: Nov 22, 2016
Author: Francesca Chambers, White House Correspo
Post Date: 2016-11-22 11:25:29 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 28804
Comments: 62

  • Trump threatened Clinton with jail time and promised to appoint a special prosecutor to look into her deleted emails
  • He likewise alleged that Clinton and her husband Bill used their charity for 'criminal enterprise'
  • Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough & Mika Brzezinskisaid president-elect will not have investigators look into the crimes he accused her of
  • Senior Trump transition official Kellyanne Conway confirmed the report later in the program
  • Rudy Giuliani, a vice chairman of Trump's transition, told reporters he didn't know anything, but 'I would be supportive of it'
  • 'I’d also be supportive of continuing the investigation. I think the president-elect had a tough choice there - you could go either way'

Donald Trump will not sic federal investigators on Hillary Clinton once he's in the White House.

Kellyanne Conway, a senior official on the Republican's presidential campaign and now his transition team, told Morning Joe the president-elect has a lot on his mind and 'things that sound like the campaign aren't among them.'

'I think Hillary Clinton still has to face the fact that a majority of Americans don't find her to be honest or trustworthy, but if Donald Trump can help her heal, then perhaps that's a good thing,' Conway said.

Trump threatened Clinton with jail time and promised to appoint a special prosecutor to look into her deleted emails.

He likewise alleged that Clinton and her husband Bill used their charity for 'criminal enterprise.'

'Lock her up!' became a rallying cry for Trump supporters attending his events.

The president-elect's inner circle had doubted publicly that Trump would follow through, and the incoming president said himself in a 60 Minutes interview that he doesn't want to 'hurt' Bill and Hillary.

'They're good people,' he said.

Morning Joe hosts Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough said Tuesday that the president-elect will not pursue charges against his former White House opponent for her emails or the pay-for-play schemes he accused her of on the campaign trail.

A source with 'direct knowledge' of Trump's plans shared the information, Brzezinski said on the program early Tuesday am. Trump feels Clinton has been 'through enough,' the source told the program.

Scarborough referenced Gerald Ford's pardoning of Richard Nixon at the beginning of his term for charges associated with Watergate and observed that Trump 'could say there are echos of 1974.'

'But at the same time I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of members of the Trump base that are gonna be angry that he did this,' he said.

The MSNBC host said: 'You don't want to go into a new year chasing somebody out of public life....It's just not good for the country.'

Clinton has rarely been seen in public since her electoral defeat two weeks ago.

A hiker spotted the Democrat near her home, walking her dogs, in Chappaqua, New York.

On Sunday bookseller posted a photograph of Clinton in Westerly, Rhode Island. Clinton was there with her husband, daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren, the woman said.

Clinton delivered a speech last Wednesday in Washington, D.C. before the Children's Defense Fund, the first organization she worked at after college.

Conway confirmed to Scarborough this morning, on air, that Trump would not add injury to insult and work to put Clinton behind bars.

Republicans on Capitol Hill said they would spend 'years' investigating her after the election.

'I think they were looking toward a Clinton administration,' Brzezinski said Tuesday.

Conway said she expects them to back down, too.

'I think when the president-elect, who's also the head of your party now, Joe, tells you before he's even inaugurated he doesn't wish to pursue these charges, it sends a very strong message, tone and content, to the members,' Conway told Scarborough.

She indicated that Trump was changing tack because he has more pressing matters to deal with.

'I think he's thinking of many different things as he prepares to become the President of the United Stats and things that sound like the campaign aren't among them,' she stated.

Rudy Giuliani, a vice chairman of Trump's transition, told reporters this morning as he exited Trump Tower, that he'd seen the news but had no additional information.

If Trump did reach that conclusion, he said, 'I would be supportive of it.

'I’d also be supportive of continuing the investigation. I think the president-elect had a tough choice there - you could go either way,' Giuliani said. 'If he made the choice to unite the nation, I think all those people who didn’t vote against him, maybe, could take another look at him.'

Giuliani said Tuesday, as he's said before, 'There’s a tradition in American politics that after you win an election, you sort of put things behind you.

'And if that’s the decision he reached, that’s perfectly consistent with sort of a historical pattern of things come up,' he stated today. 'You say a lot of things, even some bad things might happen, and then you can sort of put it behind you in order to unite the nation.'

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

Fine. Whatever. The FBI will continue its investigation. The Clintons are broken and have no more influence to peddle.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-22   11:36:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

I thought the FBI concluded its investigation thanks to FBI Director James Comey. This administration moved way too fast to prosecute Hillary. They should have waited till Trump won the election and then proceed with going after her. For them to re-open this matter would probably fall under double jeopardy violations.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-11-22   22:36:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: goldilucky (#32)

For them to re-open this matter would probably fall under double jeopardy violations.

Double jeopardy applies to adjudicated cases, not investigations.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-23   9:39:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

It was my understanding concerning Hillary and the FBI investigating her and her going through those Congressional hearings was that she was already being charged and that the allegations or findings made against her had now become the burden for her to prove they were wrong. And of course we all know she lied under oath and that Comey backed her up. The problem is that the Director elected to drop the case against her.

So how is it now possible for this matter to be re-opened again when she already went through the Congressional hearings in 2013 and now the recent emailgate scandal?

I know what double jeopardy means and it seems to me that Hillary was already charged but that the FBI chose not to proceed with prosecuting her. They know she is guilty.

The problem with all this is that the House of Representatives should have called a meeting to halt her candidacy for presidency while she was undergoing these hearings and investigations. The fact that this election was allowed to proceed with her in it all the while the FBI drops the investigation, proves that everybody involved in this election (including Trump) played a role in seeing that she got off free.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-11-23   15:20:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: goldilucky (#39) (Edited)

I know what double jeopardy means and it seems to me that Hillary was already charged

She was never charged, only investigated. They can reopen investigations whenever they like. There is no double jeopardy here.

The House of Representatives has no power to halt elections.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-23   16:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Vicomte13 (#43)

She was never charged, only investigated. They can reopen investigations whenever they like. There is no double jeopardy here.

If she was never charged, then there were allegations made which Comey decided had no merit to pursue. If the Director decided there was no merit to pursue the allegations, then the case was closed meaning they cannot re-open this matter.

If the House of Representatives has no power to halt elections such as under these circumstances, then who does?

goldilucky  posted on  2016-11-23   16:57:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: goldilucky (#44)

If she was never charged, then there were allegations made which Comey decided had no merit to pursue. If the Director decided there was no merit to pursue the allegations, then the case was closed meaning they cannot re-open this matter.

If the House of Representatives has no power to halt elections such as under these circumstances, then who does?

Investigation was done to determine whether or not charges would be filed.

Nobody. Nobody in our system has the power to halt elections. Elections can't be halted. Force majeur might cause them to not happen, but there is no body that can rule that there won't be elections.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-23   18:51:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Vicomte13, goldilucky (#45)

Nobody. Nobody in our system has the power to halt elections. Elections can't be halted.

Art. 2, Sec. 1, Cl. 4:

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The date is set by Federal Statute, not the Constitution. A uniform date to choose electors was not even set until 1845.

3 U.S.C. § 1 (2014)

§1. Time of appointing electors

The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 644, 62 Stat. 672.)

Why can't Congress move the date to the second Tuesday next after the first Monday in November? Congress seems to have the power to change the date at will. If they pass a revision a day before the scheduled election day, the day is moved.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-23   23:50:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: nolu chan (#47) (Edited)

If Congress has the power to appoint electors in an election, why can't they halt elections when one of the candidates is under investigation?

The statutes you referenced seem to apply towards the electoral college. Am I right about this?

goldilucky  posted on  2016-11-24   0:10:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: goldilucky (#48)

If Congress has the power to appoint electors in an election

Congress does not appoint the electors, they set the date (election day) that the people select the electors (to the electoral college).

As I see it, just as a matter of power, Congress can change the date when they please, no reason required. The statute set the date when the people go to the polls. Moving the date back might confront complications such as the electoral college must vote, and the vote must be certified, before the inauguration.

If the Congress has the full power to set the day, they should have the power to change it.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-24   1:08:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: nolu chan (#49)

Who are "the people", that you are referring to, that select the electors? If you are referring to the John Q. Public, I don't believe that at all.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-11-24   1:16:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#51. To: goldilucky (#50)

Who are "the people", that you are referring to, that select the electors? If you are referring to the John Q. Public, I don't believe that at all.

"Select" may have two meanings. (Prospective) Electors (delegates) may be selected by means that vary by state to stand for one candidate. By their vote, the people select, choose, or vote for which of the prospective electors becomes an actual elector for the electoral college.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

Citizens of the United States vote in each state at a general election to choose a slate of "electors" pledged to vote for a party's candidate.

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The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors. That is election day, the Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

On election day, we vote for an elector, a delegate to the Electoral College. A vote for Trump would actually be a vote for the delegate pledged to Trump. Only the electors actually vote for the presidential candidate.

and the day on which they shall give their votes;

This refers to the day on which the delegates will give their votes; the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December.

which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The day the delegates to the Electoral College (electors) give their vote shall be the same throughout the U.S.

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