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Title: Some more bullshit Willie Posted
Source: The Independent (UK)
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w ... -president-elect-a7412621.html
Published: Nov 11, 2016
Author: Andrew Griffin
Post Date: 2016-11-11 16:06:24 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 23501
Comments: 52

Getting rid of the healthcare plan was among billionaire businessman's biggest campaign promises

Donald Trump has said that he might not repeal Obamacare, perhaps his biggest campaign promise.

The President-elect performed the apparent U-turn after his meeting with Barack Obama at the White House this week, he has said.

Mr Trump is going to look at "amending" the policy, rather than completely repealing it, he told the Wall Street Journal.

After the meeting at the White House, Mr Trump said that he and Mr Obama had discussed "some of the difficulties" the country faced but also "some of the really great things that have been achieved". Some took that latter remark as a reference to Obamacare and perhaps other policies, and a potential suggestion that Mr Trump may be won around on what has become one of Barack Obama's flagship policies but also one hated by much of the Republican party.

Mr Obama also said he was "encouraged" by Mr Trump's willingness to work with his team, telling him: "We want to do everything we can to help you succeed because if you succeed the country succeeds".

The tense meeting was far more respectful than the exchanges between the two during the presidential campaign, during which Mr Obama called Mr Trump unfit to be president, and Mr Trump said Mr Obama was "the founder of Isis".

Mr Trump said after he spoke with congressional leaders, shortly after his first meeting with Mr Obama, that healthcare would be among his top priorities in office.

“We're going to move very strongly on immigration. We will move very strongly on healthcare. And we're looking at jobs. Big league jobs,” he told the press.


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Good grief... that deluded stooge is in so deep over his head he has absolutely no idea what he's flapping his yap about from one minute to the next.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Mr Trump is going to look at "amending" the policy, rather than completely repealing it, he told the Wall Street Journal.

Then quote the WSJ and not some flapping UK rag.......You got a quote from the WSJ?

civilwarbuff  posted on  2016-11-11   16:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: civilwarbuff (#1)

Is FOX News pure enough for your sensitivities?

President-elect Trump willing to keep parts of ObamaCare

Willie Green  posted on  2016-11-11   16:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

Keeping parts of it is not the same as "not repealing" wouldn't you agree? Borrowing the few good ideas it has is not a bad thing at all......

civilwarbuff  posted on  2016-11-11   16:46:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: civilwarbuff (#3)

Keeping parts of it is not the same as "not repealing" wouldn't you agree? Borrowing the few good ideas it has is not a bad thing at all......

Correct. For example, the part of the AHA which most Republicans agreed with was the protection of people with pre-existing conditions.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-11-11   17:24:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#9)

"For example, the part of the AHA which most Republicans agreed with was the protection of people with pre-existing conditions."

Dr. Death said in an interview that group consists of 3 million Americans with an annual cost of $26 billion.

If the insurance companies will be expected to cover that cost, they'll spread it among everyone else they cover. Is that fair?

And how do we prevent people from only signing up after they get sick?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-11   17:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#11)

f the insurance companies will be expected to cover that cost, they'll spread it among everyone else they cover. Is that fair?

And how do we prevent people from only signing up after they get sick?

Fair or unfair, it is absolutely necessary that everybody in the nation have health insurance.

If the economic burden is too great, the government will have to permanently subsidize it. Like Social Security, this is a must have, not a nice to have. Trump has always thought so too, so that's what we're going to get.

To keep the costs lower, Trump is going to nationalize the market, removing all of the state regulatory barriers to the sale of health insurance policies. But everybody will have a policy - it will be mandatory, just like Social Security is.

Fair or unfair, that's the way it has to be. It can be less overall expensive than Obamacare because of the nationwide mandate. It won't cover contraception and abortion, that's for sure. It will have a government subsidy, which will be set at a level that lets the insurance companies make their profit.

It's a good thing that peace with Russia is another major Trump plank, because the savings from not having to continue to fight this un-necessary neo-Cold War will be needed to fund universal health insurance.

The new Republican majority will be the working and middle class, not the upper class and free traders. There will no longer be trickle down economics. It will be economic nationalism and universal health insurance. Republicans will get in line with Trump and win a century of power or they will divide, Trump will get the votes for health care from moderate Republicans and Democrats, he'll get the policy through and be a hero for it, but the Republicans won't reap the political benefits.

He won the election, and dragged them along for the ride. He's going to change the philosophy of the GOP. It's not going to be statist, and it's not going to be Reaganomics. It's going to be a natioalist blue-collar/middle class party.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   20:49:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

"it will be mandatory, just like Social Security is."

With a federal payroll deduction for health insurance?

Then every working schlub will be paying for their own insurance (through their employer) and everyone elses. Or do you envision employers dropping employee health insurance and dumping every working person onto the market?

That will be as popular as Obamacare.

My plan's better.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-11-12   10:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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