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Title: Trump meets with Obama at the White House as whirlwind transition starts
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit ... k8Mfc?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=AVRES007
Published: Nov 10, 2016
Author: David Nakamura
Post Date: 2016-11-10 15:08:29 by HomerBohn
Keywords: None
Views: 10068
Comments: 45

President-elect Donald Trump and President Obama pledged Thursday to work together after their first meeting, starting the whirlwind transition that will unfold over the next 10 weeks until Trump is sworn into office Jan. 20.

An hour and a half after Trump entered the White House through the South Lawn entrance — avoiding news cameras and the president's staff — a group of reporters was ushered into the Oval Office, where the president and president-elect were seated in the high-backed armchairs at the end of the room.

In a sign of how tensions between the two politicians have not disappeared in the immediate aftermath of the election, the White House did not arrange for the traditional photo-op between the current first couple and the incoming one, a custom that George W. Bush and his wife Laura observed when the Obamas visited the White House in 2008. Melania Trump met separately with Michelle Obama.

Obama has pledged his administration's full cooperation with Trump's transition team, citing the close working relationship he enjoyed with President George W. Bush during their transfer of power eight years ago.

The White House announced that Vice President-elect Mike Pence will meet with Vice President Biden in the afternoon.

“I have instructed my team to follow the example that President Bush's team set eight years ago and work as hard as we can to make sure that this is a successful transition for the president-elect,” Obama said in the Rose Garden on Wednesday. The president said he called to congratulate Trump early Wednesday morning after news networks had formally announced Trump as the winner over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

Obama had denounced Trump as “temperamentally unfit” for the White House during a long and brutal campaign. But he said that “we are now all rooting for his success in uniting and leading the country. The peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy. And over the next few months, we are going to show that to the world.”

Trump, and Clinton, already had been receiving national-security briefings as the nominees of the two major political parties. The White House said Thursday that Obama has convened a coordinating council to facilitate a smooth transition, including providing briefings from federal agencies to Trump's transition team, headed by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Officials from the Trump transition team are starting to set up shop in agencies across the federal government, where they can consult with top Obama officials as they assemble their staffs. The current White House has already begun to transfer a massive amount of information to the National Archives and Records Administration: so far it has sent 283 million files, comprising 122,000 gigabytes of data.

In an interview Wednesday, White House communications director Jennifer Psaki said the president has talked privately with his staff, as well as publicly, about putting institutional interests ahead of political ones.

Referring to the speeches Obama delivered upon winning the presidency and at his first inaugural, she said: “He reflects a lot about the cog in the wheel that you are as president. He was taking the baton, he’s handing it off. But I think it’s a recognition that it’s bigger than individual aspirations and it’s bigger than yourself, and bigger than anything that you’ve accomplished. Because we as a country need to be stable, need to have continuity.”

The meeting between Obama and Trump was their most extended conversation. White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he thought they had met one time previously, but he could not recall the venue. There is long-standing bad blood between the two, after Trump led a public campaign to try to force Obama to disclose his long-form birth certificate in 2011 over unfounded questions from some conservatives who thought the president was not born in the United States.

During the White House Correspondents' Association dinner that year, Obama lit into Trump, mocking him before a ballroom of 2,000 guests and on live television. During the campaign, Trump promised to repeal the president's signature health-care law and overturn many of his executive actions. Obama said Trump was not to be trusted with the nation's nuclear codes and represented an existential threat to democracy.

Obama sought to play down their differences and said Trump's victory speech was magnanimous and set the right tone to help try to heal the nation's political divisions that were exposed and inflamed over the past 15 months.

“They do not have an extensive personal relationship,” Earnest said Wednesday, drawing laughs from reporters. “This is not a situation where they’ve had many conversations or played golf together or any of that business. So I guess that will be among the many, many, many reasons that tomorrow’s meeting will be rather interesting.”

After his meeting with Trump, Obama will welcome another high-profile visitor with his own large media contingent when LeBron James and the NBA champion Cleveland Cavaliers arrive for a South Lawn ceremony with the president.

Still, Trump told reporters Thursday that he expects to work closely with Obama now and in future to seek his advice in guiding the country. He noted that a session that was supposed to last 10 to 15 minutes went on for an hour-and-a-half.

“As far as I'm concerned, it could have lasted a lot longer,” Trump said. “We discussed a lot of different situations, some wonderful and some difficulties. I very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel.”

“Mr. President, it was a great honor being with you, and I look forward to being with many more time in the future,” he added, calling Obama “a very good man.”

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Obama, for his part, said, “I have been very encouraged by the interest by the President-elect Trump's wanting to work with my team around many of the issues that this great country faces. I believe that it is important for all regardless of party and regardless of political preferences to now come together, work together to deal with the many challenges we face.”

The president said that the men's two wives had enjoyed spending time together Thursday morning.

“We want to make sure they feel welcome as they prepare to make this transition,” Obama said. “Most of all, I want to emphasize to you, Mr. President-elect, that we now are going to do everything we can to help you succeed because if you succeed, then the country succeeds.”

As the two leaders met, White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough gave a tour to Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and other aides, notably Dan Scavino, across the edge of the Rose Garden. Afterward McDonough led Kushner on a walk down the South Lawn for nearly 20 minutes, at which point the two men rejoined Trump's senior staff and reentered the White House.

A slew of journalists, including international reporters, milled about on the driveway leading to the West Wing ahead of Trump's arrival. Some did live updates to their networks. Across West Executive Drive, dozens of White House staffers gathered on a steps in hopes of a glimpse.


Poster Comment:

Who won the election?

The Damnocraps believe that the election calls for joint and cooperative governance.

Many of us thought that we did and that the evil regime of Obama would be treated with the disdain and contempt it so richly deserved.

Many of us thought that we did and that the evil regime of Obama would be treated with the disdain and contempt it so richly deserved.

Get busy draining the swamp, President-Elect and begin with the fumigation of that disgraced White Hut.

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#1. To: HomerBohn (#0)

Boy, would I have loved to be in that room.

It went on far longer than anticipated.

Sure they came out "we all love each other, blah, blah blah"

But a lot went on there we will never here about.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-11-10   15:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HomerBohn (#0)

Obama was later quoted as telling GOP leaders that “elections have consequences,” and, in case there was any doubt, “I won.”

calcon  posted on  2016-11-10   15:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HomerBohn (#0)

Search Obama on the way out.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-11-10   17:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HomerBohn (#0)

“Mr. President, it was a great honor being with you, and I look forward to being with many more time in the future,” he added, calling Obama “a very good man.”

Yes, and islam is the religion of peace. Is's beginning to look like we have another unstudied nitwit for a president who says nice things...

Obama, Hillary, and the crew they have infused into the government at all levels have been the biggest, most disgraceful, and most defiant wave of subversive elements ever seen. Now Trump wants to make nice with them. They are not to be treated with any respect, or honor, at all, but are to be persecuted and sent off to live in the fever swamps.

rlk  posted on  2016-11-10   17:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rlk (#4)

Now Trump wants to make nice with them. They are not to be treated with any respect, or honor, at all,

If Trump wants his transition to be a disaster, he can take that approach. Trump is a businessman, a bargainer. he has taken over many, many businesses. replaced their leadership. This is one more, a big one, he's going to do this right. And behaving like a brat would not be doing that right. It would also make his start a terrible tumble, a disaster. So no, Trump isn't going to be a brat. He's going to do it right. And doing it right means treating the President with dignity in public. And Vice-versa.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-10   18:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

If Trump wants his transition to be a disaster, he can take that approach. Trump is a businessman, a bargainer. he has taken over many, many businesses. replaced their leadership. This is one more, a big one, he's going to do this right. And behaving like a brat would not be doing that right. It would also make his start a terrible tumble, a disaster. So no, Trump isn't going to be a brat. He's going to do it right. And doing it right means treating the President with dignity in public.

That's your opinion.

Where I come from, you treat people with the respect that they have earned and deserve. You do not elevate them with groundless flattery. On the other hand, if you see a poisinous snake you recognize it as such and stomp on it. Trump had no business meeting with Obama or festooning him with false accolades. Obama was, is, and always will be, a poisonous snake seeking opportunity to strike and inject poisonous venom. Hillary and Obama are much the same.

rlk  posted on  2016-11-10   19:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HomerBohn, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)

Muslim Brotherhood handshake.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-11-10   19:29:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HomerBohn (#0)

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-11-10   20:08:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HomerBohn (#0)

They don't HAVE to like each other,but they DO have to do what they are doing.

You can't catch the ball to run with it if there is nobody there to throw it to you,and you can't pass it off if there is nobody there to catch it.

What is unfinished business today will have to be finished by Trump,and he needs to know about it now so he can figure out what to do about once he is the President.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rlk (#4)

“Mr. President, it was a great honor being with you, and I look forward to being with many more time in the future,” he added, calling Obama “a very good man.”

Yes, and islam is the religion of peace. Is's beginning to look like we have another unstudied nitwit for a president who says nice things...

It's beginning to look to me like YOU are the nitwit.

How freaking old are you,12?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

If Trump wants his transition to be a disaster, he can take that approach. Trump is a businessman, a bargainer. he has taken over many, many businesses. replaced their leadership. This is one more, a big one, he's going to do this right. And behaving like a brat would not be doing that right. It would also make his start a terrible tumble, a disaster. So no, Trump isn't going to be a brat. He's going to do it right. And doing it right means treating the President with dignity in public. And Vice-versa.

You and I are in perfect agreement on this one.

Seems like some people here are children trying to pass themselves off as adults.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rlk (#6)

Where I come from, you treat people with the respect that they have earned and deserve. You do not elevate them with groundless flattery. On the other hand, if you see a poisinous snake you recognize it as such and stomp on it. Trump had no business meeting with Obama or festooning him with false accolades. Obama was, is, and always will be, a poisonous snake seeking opportunity to strike and inject poisonous venom. Hillary and Obama are much the same.

SOMEBODY needs their meds adjusted.

A Depends change may be in order,too.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#7)

Muslim Brotherhood handshake.

How do you know? Was that the message on your Secret Decoder Ring?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ConservingFreedom (#8)

SOOOOOO appropriate!

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#10)

How freaking old are you,12?

About 312.

rlk  posted on  2016-11-11   0:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#11)

Sage words Pete.

I think some expected Trump to show up with bouncers and clean out the joint today. He's doing what every President elect has done.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-11-11   1:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#11)

Seems like some people here are children trying to pass themselves off as adults.

Welcome Back.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-11   2:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#13)

Muslim Brotherhood handshake.

How do you know? Was that the message on your Secret Decoder Ring?

I'll say it again" WELCOME BACK!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-11   2:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#7)

I noted that Bracky has his hand on his girly jewels.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2016-11-11   8:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Bracky wants President Donald to do things the way he does. He wants the White Hut and the Annex filled with do-nothing assorted LGBTQ defectives.

The way this phony president does things is the wrong way!

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2016-11-11   8:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rlk (#4)

Say it like it is President-Elect: WE WON, YOU LOST!

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2016-11-11   8:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rlk (#6)

Trump had no business meeting with Obama

The incoming President of the United States, who does not have access to the super-secret top programs yet, has no business meeting with the outgoing President of the United States, who does? That's nuts. Trump didn't beat Obama, he beat Hillary. They HAVE to meet. They HAVE to hand off the baton.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   8:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HomerBohn (#0)

In an interview Wednesday, White House communications director Jennifer Psaki said the president has talked privately with his staff, as well as publicly, about putting institutional interests ahead of political ones.

Yeah right my guess is the little talk from Obozos perspective was to impress on Trump as to how much good his mess is and not to disable it if he wants to be cut in on the spoils.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-11-11   8:49:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: HomerBohn (#20)

Bracky wants President Donald to do things the way he does. He wants the White Hut and the Annex filled with do-nothing assorted LGBTQ defectives.

The way this phony president does things is the wrong way!

That's what Obama wants, but Trump is older than Obama, and more experienced (and much better) at negotiation than Obama. Trump has been dealing with adversaries and people across the table all his adult life, for 50 years. Obama has been a mediocre President who gave away the farm in negotiations.

Trump is going to get all of the information and help he can from Obama, wish Obama well, give him a little pat on the ass, and send him off into retirement, and he'll have a better handle on the facts of the White House and the national secrets by having gotten along well with Obama, than would be the case if he acted like a dickhead.

It would be self-defeating: Trump has to actually RUN THE PLACE after January 20th, and he wants to do a good job and not have some embarrassing stumble that could have been avoided. There is no reason AT ALL for Trump to not be very nice to Obama, to get everything he can out of the man.

The notion that Donald Trump is going to get bamboozled and snake charmed by Obama is silly. Trump is the older, more experienced man, the Alpha in the room. He wants the Beta to help him make his life better and his job easier. And why NOT? Trump's got a job to do.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   8:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HomerBohn (#19)

I noted that Bracky has his hand on his girly jewels.

He's afraid Donald will grab him by the pussy.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   8:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#24)

Bracky is just a shell of a man whose brain is stuck on glib. He is a hustler and a survivor who has cashed in on the phony white guilt and got himself elevated to the White Hut.

Had Trump ran in 2012 he would have been elected. Had America had a better option in 2008, Obama would still be representing the decrepit State of Illinois unless a smart Conservative had roundly defeated him. Then Bracky would have to go back to organizing the negro communities.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2016-11-11   9:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13 (#22) (Edited)

The incoming President of the United States, who does not have access to the super-secret top programs yet, has no business meeting with the outgoing President of the United States, who does? That's nuts. Trump didn't beat Obama, he beat Hillary. They HAVE to meet. They HAVE to hand off the baton.

Are you capable of seeing the inherent contradictions in your argument, French nobleman?

rlk  posted on  2016-11-11   17:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: redleghunter (#16)

I think some expected Trump to show up with bouncers and clean out the joint today. He's doing what every President elect has done.

Yup. You HAVE to do it the right way or you are opening yourself up for attack by your enemies who are dreaming of finding an issue they can beat you over the head and shoulders with to deflect attention from their criminal acts.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   18:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#17)

Welcome Back.

Thanks. Means a lot coming from someone I usually argue with.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   18:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

They HAVE to meet. They HAVE to hand off the baton.

No kidding. How simple does someone have to be where they think the job of a national leader is so uncomplicated that all they have to do is just "hand over the keys to the executive desk and wish the new guy luck."?

There are probably hundreds of programs in progress right now that affect the future of the nation and/or the economy,and the new guy HAS to be briefed on them and have an understanding of their details and goals BEFORE he takes over. Taking over managing the United States is a bit more complex than taking over managing a car wash.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   18:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#30)

Taking over managing the United States is a bit more complex than taking over managing a car wash.

Didn't Obozo have that on his resume when he ran for the office?

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-11-11   18:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#29)

Welcome Back.

Thanks. Means a lot coming from someone I usually argue with.

Heck, Pete, my wife of 61 years and I sometimes argue like Hell with each other….but that doesn’t mean that we don’t love each other.

Just because you and I disagree many times….doesn’t mean that we ever have to dislike each other.

The late Harrowup once posted, as you should recall, that you are one of the two people on this forum he would want to “protect his six.”

I can identify with that …

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-11   18:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rlk (#27)

Are you capable of seeing the inherent contradictions in your argument, French nobleman?

Why no, snarling peasant.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   19:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82 (#31)

Didn't Obozo have that on his resume when he ran for the office?

I don't know. I know I have written several times that if it weren't for AA he would be lucky to be the ASSISTANT Manager at a car wash in a Chicago ghetto.

I honestly don't think he's up to the level of competence to be an actual car wash manager.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   19:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#32)

Just because you and I disagree many times….doesn’t mean that we ever have to dislike each other.

That's pretty much been the way I see things,too. In all the years of posting on political boards,there has only been one person I considered tracking down. Even then it was only because he kept getting personal,and even physically threatened me

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

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American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   19:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#32)

The late Harrowup

When did he die? I somehow missed that.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   19:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#30)

No kidding. How simple does someone have to be where they think the job of a national leader is so uncomplicated that all they have to do is just "hand over the keys to the executive desk and wish the new guy luck."?

There are probably hundreds of programs in progress right now that affect the future of the nation and/or the economy,and the new guy HAS to be briefed on them and have an understanding of their details and goals BEFORE he takes over. Taking over managing the United States is a bit more complex than taking over managing a car wash.

Exactly.

POTUS is a massive job.

Trump wants to do a good job. He's thought about being President all his life, and now he has actually achieved the dream. He doesn't want to fuck up. OF COURSE he's going to get as much advice from everybody as he can. He's never been afraid to talk to people who don't agree with him. Hell, he hired Omarosa simply because she would push back at what he said. He's a billionaire surrounded by yes-men, but he needs the facts to be able to decide. And the facts don't all come dressed in one color.

He's not a politician. He's President-Elect, and who has more information about being President in 2016 than the President?

People are so filled with hate they're ready to go kamikaze. I get it. But we're the good guys, the winners. The Japs had to go kamikaze because they were losing. It was brave and ridiculous. But for the AMERICANS to go kamikaze in 1945 would have been batshit crazy. Why would you commit suicide when you're already winning?

Trump is handling things well, as far as I can see. He's an adult. I'm sure he will do things I don't agree with - he's not me. Hell, I do things I regret later. We're just human.

Truth is, we've been betrayed - just absolutely trussed up, sold and screwed so very many times by people we thought were our friends - that I completely understand the suspicion of "O God, here it comes!" I will be astonished if Trump does that, though. HE WON. The stuff he said was so controversial that it divided the party and drove the country crazy, and everybody said he was going to lose but he won.

He would not have said that stuff that everybody said was going to cost him the election unless he actually BELIEVED it. Now that he HAS the office he dreamed of all his life, he's not going to just betray everybody and act like a moron and screw up it.

When he said "You're gonna be so PROUD of your President" - that was the voice of a kid looking to please his dad and his friends. Trump WANTS to do a good job. He wants the praise. He's not in this for money, like many of them are, and he's not in this for petty power, or some position afterwards. He's in it to do what he SAID he is in it for. I guess it's just impossible to believe that, but with him, it's true.

Talking to the President, and to Reid, and Pelosi, all of the power brokers - that is smart. He can show them that he is willing to work with them to get what HE wants. He can make that plain to THEM. If they were smarter than him, evil geniuses or something, they would have more money than him. They don't. And they're not President.

I think he's doing great, and I think we will be proud of him.

After watching people say for 10 months that he was a shill for Hillary, now that he's won I see voices saying that after he went through ALL THAT SHIT, that he's just going to be a pansy and roll over. How dense can people be? He actually BELIEVES what he said he stood for. He wasn't posturing. He said what he believed, he got attacked, he modified a little bit his words to be clearer. That's not "caving". You say something that pisses off your wife and she is hurt and says something back, you don't double down if you realize you went too far, you go back to what you said and explain yourself better.

It's just so obvious. We're just men, not infallible gods.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   19:40:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Vicomte13 (#37)

When he said "You're gonna be so PROUD of your President" - that was the voice of a kid looking to please his dad and his friends. Trump WANTS to do a good job. He wants the praise.

I'll take it a step further. Like I wrote on another board the day before the election:

"What we are facing is a presidential race between two narcissistic sociopaths. One of them,Trump,dreams only of having people admire and love him. That is his whole focus in life.

The other is Bubbette! Clinton,and she flat doesn't give a damn if anybody loves or admires her or not,because what SHE "NEEDS" is to have people fear her. It's not about love or admiration for her,it's about raw power and naked fear.

ANYTIME you have a choice between someone seeking admiration and love or someone seeking fear,go for love and admiration."

Trump doesn't "want" the praise for doing a good job. He NEEDS it like he needs oxygen. That's why he does so much bragging. At heart he knows he is a trust fund child that owes his success in life to be born on the "WON!" side of the finish line,and he NEEDS to be seen as a winner by his own efforts.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   19:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38)

Very astute. I think I'll adopt it when talking to others.

I think that need will drive him to do a very good job. I hope so.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-11   20:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Vicomte13 (#39) (Edited)

Very astute. I think I'll adopt it when talking to others.

Thanks,and feel free to do so. Those thoughts were what convinced me to vote for Trump instead of leaving the presidential vote box empty.

With one candidate,America has a chance of surviving. With the other there would be no chance at all of America surviving.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-11   20:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete, harrowup, yukon (#36) (Edited)

Over two years ago.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-11   21:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#41) (Edited)

As always, you are late with any relevence; it is a serious problem within the chit-chat forum/community, too. Two year old email stuff is meaningless to most posters.

The admiral was solid, though. He wasn't a flimsy POS like you, sarge.

He had been fighting cancer for some time.

Here is his last email to me with a copy to yukon:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:00 AM, Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Morning Gatlin and yukon. Looks like the next couple of weeks are going to be unpleasant and I'll not have the opportunity to 'chat'.

It has been great fun and welcome agreement that we all manage to react the same way to evil. If there is a heaven and I get there and it is possible for a novice to get at least one whack you will see liberator explode. If not then you can tell the thugs that I tried but the gang was cloaked in so much 'manure' I could not penetrate to their last fetid brain cell.

Gatlin, I pray you and your wife enjoy many more years without pain and John, you deserve whatever you desire given your immense courage and resilience.

God Bless,

Hawk

My reply:

God Bless you too, Hawk ...

buckeroo

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-11   22:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin (#41)

I caught you modifying your post, tater. And now it captured just above this post.

FUCK YOU.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-11   22:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#43) (Edited)

FUCK YOU.

I'm not "that" way....try Deckard.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-12   3:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#41)

Over two years ago.

Thanks. I am sorry to hear this.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-12   5:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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