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Title: WIKILeaks fills the sidebar on LF
Source: LF
URL Source: http://hereonLF
Published: Nov 1, 2016
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2016-11-01 19:47:41 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 22209
Comments: 64

LF used to be a GREAT place to discuss politics and other matters without regard to WikiLeaks. Currently, and everday, the same ol' story ... WIKI this or WIKI that are unaccounted for because, quite frankly, anyone can send shit into Julian Assange's server making shit up.

Latched onto total BULLSHIT, we have "nolu chan" sucking Assange's asshole. It is amazing to see people think that WikiLeaks has any standards at all.

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#25. To: ConservingFreedom (#23)

I thought I had heard otherwise ...

TooConsevative, it is no surprise that you often hear only what you wish to believe.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   11:04:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#25)

Libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.

"Wow - so conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending? I thought I had heard otherwise ..."

it is no surprise that you often hear only what you wish to believe.

So I heard wrong - conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-11-02   11:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#24)



Deckard: "Yet you allow Gatlin ..."

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   11:10:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#22)

it has become an echo chamber for deluded Trump supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn6w255CGkk.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   11:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: ConservingFreedom (#26)

Libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.

"Wow - so conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending? I thought I had heard otherwise ..."

it is no surprise that you often hear only what you wish to believe.

So I heard wrong - conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending?

Did I say that “conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending?”

No, I did not.

I said that “libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.”

[…]

It is clear that the modern libertarian movement has its roots in radicalism rather than any sort of conservatism. However, since its initial beginnings within the context of the radical Left, much of the libertarian movement has turned sharply rightward, though in varying and often conflicting ways. This essay will argue that this rightward shift within the libertarian movement is severely misguided, as libertarianism and conservatism are not only historically antagonistic to one another but are indeed diametrical opposites.

[…]

https://attackthesystem.com/beyond- conservatism-reclaiming-the-radical-roots-of-libertarianism/.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   12:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin, ConservingFreedom (#29)

I said that “libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.”

Still trying to sell that lie, eh?

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.

The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” - Ronald Reagan

8 ways Ronald Reagan was a libertarian

Reagan also said this: “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.’”

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-02   12:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#30)

Ronald Reagan was a libertarian

Still trying to sell that lie, eh?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#29)

Did I say that “conservatism doesn't support lower taxes and lower spending?”

No, I did not.

I said that “libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.”

How can they be "polar opposites" if they agree on lower taxes and lower spending?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-11-02   15:03:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#30)

... Ronald Reagan was a libertarian

Reagan also said this ,,,

Your old asshole buddy, Ron Paul, did a lot more than just “say” something about Reagan not being a libertarian. Ron Paul actually RESIGNED from the Republican Party over his disagreement on the way Reagan handled the federal budget “because Reagan was no libertarian.”

Another asshole libertarian said:

I don't get why Libertarians hate Barack Obama, yet LOVE Ronald Reagan. If you were a true libertarian you would hate Reagan just as much. Reagan EXPANDED gov't, created socialism FOR THE WEALTHY, DESTROYED the free market by throwing TONS of subsidies at major corporations so the middle class would get docked and docked UNTIL THIS DAY. As far as I'm concerned they're basically the same guy except differences in pigmentation.

Furthermore, Gene Healy writing for the Cato Institute profoundly proclaimed: Ronald Reagan Was No Libertarian.

[…]

Reagan was no libertarian. Instead of wrapping ourselves in his mantle, those of us who support deep reductions in government’s size and power should take a clear-eyed look at the Reagan record.

The Cato Institute did just that in “Assessing the Reagan Years,” which showed that under Reagan, federal spending actually increased from 23 percent to 24 percent of gross national product, while payroll tax increases resulted in a net tax increase for most Americans.

Not only did Reagan renege on his promise to abolish President Carter’s new Cabinet departments, Education and Energy, he appointed secretaries dedicated to their preservation.

[And so on …]

My goodness, sport….you have no idea about something you are attempting to promote. You simply did as you always do. You read a headline that you like and want to agree with….then you copy and past a link to the bogus article.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   15:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: ConservingFreedom, Deckard, tater tot, Gatlin, neocon progressives, confused liberals (#32) (Edited)

An LBJ Rockefeller Republican of 1964 explains Gatlin (libtardism), and why he hates libertarian conservatives.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-11-02   16:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ConservingFreedom (#32)

How can [conservatives and libertarians] be "polar opposites" if they agree on lower taxes ...

The standard libertarian position on income taxes is there should be no income tax at all while on the other hand, conservatives advocate for the continuation of the income tax and the IRS. I classify that as “polar opposite.”

Then I will use the old communication strategy of answering a question with some questions.

How can they not be “polar opposites” when libertarians advocate and support abortion as a “woman’s choice?”

How can they not be “polar opposites” when libertarians believe that “sex with underage teens could be okay under certain conditions?”

How can they not be “polar opposites” when libertariana call for “the legalization of prostitution and all drugs?”

How can they not be “polar opposites” when libertarians call for “open borders as their immigration position?”

I do understand the meaning of “polar opposites” and I will continue to use the phrase.

In no way can I ever support the 1 percent’s loathsome libertarian scheme.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   16:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#35)

conservatives advocate for the continuation of the income tax and the IRS.

Source?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-11-02   16:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Gatlin (#35)

"We call for the repeal of [...] all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution." - https://www.lp.org/platform/

Is it your position that this is the "polar opposite" of conservatism?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-11-02   16:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: hondo68, Asshhole Paultards (#34)

Oh, Libertarian Party… You could have had me.

You were this close!

I am the demographic you are trying to reach out to: disenfranchised with the Republican Party presidential nominee; a lover of liberty not of political parties; someone searching for a new place to call home that represents the ideas I hold dear to my heart.

I was optimistically hopeful. I spent my entire day tuned into the Libertarian Party convention hoping to see the legitimacy that I was yearning for.

Would this be my new place to put my trust? Behind lovers of liberty like myself who wanted to make legitimate change, wanted to be taken seriously, and wanted to defend life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

Nope. I didn’t find that while watching the Libertarian Party convention. How can we make legitimate change and be taken seriously with the buffoonery I witnessed during the convention?

People like presidential candidate Darryl Perry losing his poise, screaming and pounding the podium, not only during the Saturday night debate but also during his concession speech.

How about the poor Libertarian Party chair, Nicholas Sarwark, who I legitimately felt sorry for throughout the whole event? He struggled to maintain order during the chaotic convention.

How can the Libertarian Party say they defend life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness when their presidential candidate doesn't represent those values?

There is no pro-life candidate in the 2016 election. The Libertarian Party should have represented that. There is no pro-2nd amendment candidate ticket in the 2016 election. Again, the Libertarian Party should have represented that. And if the Libertarian Party candidate doesn’t support religious freedom, then how can they support me pursuing my own happiness?

This is disappointing. I was gleefully optimistic about potentially becoming a member of the Libertarian Party. I spent a lot of time mulling it over and planned to use the convention to seal the deal for me.

Well... they definitely solidified my decision, it just isn't the same one I initially had coming into the convention. The Libertarian Party gave a platform to several foolish people that took away from the potential influx of weary ex-GOP voters, like myself.

The passionate candidates for liberty, some who were truly inspirational, were over shadowed by chaos. This was the Libertarian Party's shot at winning over the average American who feels that neither the GOP nor the Democrats represent them. And for conservatives like me, you just blew it.

http://www.thelibertyconservative.com/libertarian-party-blew- converts/.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   16:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#38)

Behind lovers


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-11-02   21:19:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#39) (Edited)

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   21:44:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Gatlin (#13)

ROTFL! Quit your whining.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#14)

Libertarianism is not some variant of conservatism. It is its polar opposite.

Define all your terms, tater. You think "Libertarianism" is a political party called, "Libertarian" just as much as you think "conservatism" is the Republican Party.

Man, you suck to high heaven.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo, Gatlin (#41)

ROTFL! Quit your whining.

ROTFLMAO! Your whole thread is a whine.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-02   22:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: nolu chan (#15)

the best wikileaks have yet to come

You worry me, chan. Do you also believe in the Tooth Faerie?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deckard (#22)

No, it has become an echo chamber for deluded Trump supporters.

A pile of trumperettes is how I see this chit-chat forum.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#42)

Define all your terms, tater.

Sure thing...be happy to do so

Libertarianism: A suck-ass philosophy that makes people act stupidly.

There!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   22:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#45)

A pile of trumperettes is how I see this chit-chat forum.

Understandable.

Seeing things only through your asshole makes everything look like "a pile" to you.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   22:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Gatlin (#46)

GOP: tater's BS party to collect free government money.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Gatlin (#47)

Trumperettes are a hot steaming pile, tater. After all you identify with the shit.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-02   22:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: nolu chan, buckeroo (#43)

ROTFL! Quit your whining.

ROTFLMAO! Your whole thread is a whine.

ROTFLAMO also. His whole life is nothing buy a series of whines.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-02   22:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo, Deckard, TRUMP CHEERLEADERS (#45)

A pile of trumperettes


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-11-02   22:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: hondo68, buckeroo, Deckard, HILLARY DRONES (#51)

My precious....

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-02   23:07:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#44)

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-03   1:07:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: nolu chan (#53)

He's filling up stadiums.

Underdog Chicago Cubs win the WS tonight in game 7 elimination. 10 innings after a end of 9th rain delay. The tooth fairy is real. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-11-03   1:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Gatlin (#38)

I am...a lover of liberty

I'm sure in your deluded mind you think that - your posts here display that you are just the opposite.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-11-03   5:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: nolu chan, tater, gatlin, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#53)

Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!
Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!
Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!

(... come on, everbody, join on in ...)

Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!
Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!
Alpha, MAGA, cuck-cuck-cuck!!!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-11-03   11:12:03 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: hondo68 (#56)

NOT WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS HAD IN MIND

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-03   11:27:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: hondo68, nolu chan (#56)

LOCK HER UP!!!
LOCK HER UP!!!
LOCK HER UP!!!
(... come on, everbody, join on in ...)
LOCK HER UP!!!
LOCK HER UP!!!
LOCK HER UP!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-03   11:39:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: nolu chan (#53)

That's fotoshopped ... anyone can tell.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-03   20:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Gatlin (#58)

LOCK HER UP!!!

You just want her locked upped with you, you ol' wind bag.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-03   20:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#59)

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-03   22:32:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: hondo68, nolu chan (#51)

Here are the real Trump Cheerleaders!.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-04   12:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Gatlin (#58)

nolu chan  posted on  2016-11-04   12:30:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: nolu chan (#63)

GOOD ONE!

That really did make me laugh out loud ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-11-04   12:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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