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Title: The Failure of Democracy How The Oligarchs Plan To Steal The Election
Source: Information Clearing House
URL Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45756.htm
Published: Oct 28, 2016
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2016-10-28 20:19:52 by U don't know me
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Views: 5873
Comments: 45

The Failure of Democracy How The Oligarchs Plan To Steal The Election

By Paul Craig Roberts

October 28, 2016 "Information Clearing House" - I am now convinced that the Oligarchy that rules America intends to steal the presidential election. In the past, the oligarchs have not cared which candidate won as the oligarchs owned both. But they do not own Trump.

Most likely you are unaware of what Trump is telling people as the media does not report it. A person who speaks like this is not endeared to the oligarchs.

Who are the oligarchs?

-Wall Street and the mega-banks too big to fail and their agent the Federal Reserve, a federal agency that put 5 banks ahead of millions of troubled American homeowners who the federal reserve allowed to be flushed down the toilet. In order to save the mega-banks’ balance sheets from their irresponsible behavior, the Fed has denied retirees any interest income on their savings for eight years, forcing the elderly to draw down their savings, leaving their heirs, who have been displaced from employment by corporate jobs offshoring, penniless.

—The military/security complex which has spent trillions of our taxpayer dollars on 15 years of gratuitous wars based entirely on lies in order to enrich themselves and their power.

—The neoconservartives whose crazed ideology of US world hegemony thrusts the American people into military conflict with Russia and China.

—The US global corporations that sent American jobs to China and India and elsewhere in order to enrich the One Percent with higher profits from lower labor costs.

—Agribusiness (Monsanto et.al.), corporations that poison the soil, the water, the oceans, and our food with their GMOs, hebicides, pesticides, and chemical fertilizers, while killing the bees that pollinate the crops.

—The extractive industries—energy, mining, fracking, and timber—that maximize their profits by destroying the environment and the water supply.

—The Israel Lobby that controls US Middle East policy and is committing genocide against the Palestinians just as the US committed genocide against native Americans. Israel is using the US to eliminate sovereign countries that stand in Israell’s way.

What convinces me that the Oligarchy intends to steal the election is the vast difference between the presstitutes’ reporting and the facts on the ground.

According to the presstitutes, Hillary is so far ahead that there is no point in Trump supporters bothering to vote. Hillary has won the election before the vote. Hillary has been declared a 93% sure winner.

I am yet to see one Hillary yard sign, but Trump signs are everywhere. Reports I receive are that Hillary’s public appearances are unattended but Trumps are so heavily attended that people have to be turned away. This is a report from a woman in Florida:

Trump has pulled huge numbers all over FL while campaigning here this week. I only see Trump signs and stickers in my wide travels. I dined at a Mexican restaurant last night. Two women my age sitting behind me were talking about how they had tried to see Trump when he came to Tallahassee. They left work early, arriving at the venue at 4:00 for a 6:00 rally. The place was already over capacity so they were turned away. It turned out that there were so many people there by 2:00 that the doors had to be opened to them. The women said that the crowds present were a mix of races and ages.”

I know the person who gave me this report and have no doubt whatsoever as to its veracity.

I also receive from readers similiar reports from around the country.

This is how the theft of the election is supposed to work: The media concentrated in a few corporate hands has gone all out to convince not only Americans but also the world, that Donald Trump is such an unacceptable candidate that he has lost the election before the vote.

By controllng the explanation, when the election is stolen those who challenge the stolen election are without a foundartion in the media. All media reports will say that it was a run away victory for Hillary over the misogynist immigrant-hating Trump.

And liberal, progressive opinion will be relieved and off guard as Hillary takes us into nuclear war.

That the Oligarchy intends to steal the election from the American people is verified by the officially reported behavior of the voting machines in early voting in Texas. The NPR presstitutes have declared that Hillary is such a favorite that even Republican Texas is up for grabs in the election.

If this is the case, why was it necessary for the voting machines to be programmed to change Trump votes to Hillary votes? Those voters who noted that they voted Trump but were recorded Hillary complained. The election officials, claiming a glitch (which only went one way), changed to paper ballots. But who will count them? No “glitches” caused Hillary votes to go to Trump, only Trump votes to go to Hillary.

The most brilliant movie of our time was The Matrix. This movie captured the life of Americans manipulated by a false reality, only in the real America there is insufficient awareness and no Neo, except possibly Donald Trump, to challenge the system. Americans of all stripes—academics, scholars, journalists, Republicans, Democrats, right-wing, left-wing, US Representatives, US Senators, Presidents, corporate moguls and brainwashed Americans and foreigners—live in a false reality.

In the United States today a critical presidential election is in process in which not a single important issue is addressed by Hillary and the presstitutes. This is total failure. Democracy, once the hope of the world, has totally failed in the United States of America. Trump is correct. The American people must restore the accountability of government to the people.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.

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#1. To: U don't know me (#0)

This is how the theft of the election is supposed to work: The media concentrated in a few corporate hands has gone all out to convince not only Americans but also the world, that Donald Trump is such an unacceptable candidate that he has lost the election before the vote.

By controllng the explanation, when the election is stolen those who challenge the stolen election are without a foundartion in the media. All media reports will say that it was a run away victory for Hillary over the misogynist immigrant-hating Trump.

And liberal, progressive opinion will be relieved and off guard as Hillary takes us into nuclear war.

The first sentence quoted is true. America media is Pravda. They are trying so hard.

The second sentence is true: they are trying Goebbels' "Big Lie". It isn't going to work, but they are trying it.

But the third sentence is in la-la land and discredits the sanity of the writer. Nuclear war? Hillary Clinton is going to take us to nuclear war? It's ridiculous. Hillary Clinton is a rational actor. She is not suicidal. The Left is not suicidal. The Russians have never been suicidal. The Chinese are not suicidal. We're not going to nuclear war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-29   6:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Hillary Clinton is a rational actor....

So are ninety percent of criminal sociopaths who, as a result, can never at trial plead an insanity defense. Neither are any of them suicidal. So apparently according to you the litmus test for an acceptable presidential candidate boils down to their possessing a strong sense of self-preservation. Guess that's entirely in keeping with your previously published beliefs that loyalty to family and friends is somehow on a higher plane than some stupid allegiance to a dumb country with idiotic borders and a silly imaginary constitution.

treeingwalkercoonhound  posted on  2016-10-29   9:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: treeingwalkercoonhound (#2)

I'm voting for Trump, because that is in the country's best interests, as I perceive it.

I perceive what is in the best interests of my family and friends and me and the people I favor as being in the country's best interests. I'm sure you're just a saint who rides above it all and only has the "true" best interests of the country at heart, whatever those are.

Nationalism and populism: those are the ways to lead a democracy. That's Trump.

You cheer for some other weird esoteric things...things that lost in the primaries and will lose in the general election. I'm for winning.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-29   12:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Should he have written that her flirtation and outright antagonizing of a Nuclear power shows that she wants a war with Russia? Clinton and Obama have openly discussed war with Russia, which can lead to a nuclear exchange. So Paul Craig Roberts is being a little expansive in his rhetoric, at its base it is true. If we pick on "The Bear" we risk nuclear war.

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-10-30   21:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jeremiad (#4)

If we go to war with Russia, there are two possible outcomes: we lose, or nuclear war. The Russians will go nuclear rather than lose. It has always been part of their doctrine. In fact, the Russians don't have a doctrine of conventional war. Their doctrine ASSUMES nuclear war from the opening guns.

To go to war with Russia means nuclear war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-30   22:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

But the third sentence is in la-la land and discredits the sanity of the writer. Nuclear war? Hillary Clinton is going to take us to nuclear war? It's ridiculous. Hillary Clinton is a rational actor. She is not suicidal. The Left is not suicidal. The Russians have never been suicidal. The Chinese are not suicidal. We're not going to nuclear war.

Don't bet on it. She's been testing the limits of what she can get way with for fourty years with complete lack of caution and success. Now she has a chance to play in the big leagues and expect continuation of the same outcome. She is more than a little meglomaniacal and Putin is not a man to be bullied or conned.

rlk  posted on  2016-10-30   22:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rlk (#6)

Don't bet on it. She's been testing the limits of what she can get way with for fourty years with complete lack of caution and success. Now she has a chance to play in the big leagues and expect continuation of the same outcome. She is more than a little meglomaniacal and Putin is not a man to be bullied or conned.

Well, she's not going to get her chance. She will not be President.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   8:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

Hate to say this. Yes she will.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-10-31   10:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

Fred - I hate to step on your toes. But Clinton is the loser in this election. As your ol' pal TLBSHOW sez: BUTT GOOD!

buckeroo  posted on  2016-10-31   10:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

Hate to say this. Yes she will.

No, she won't. She's not going to recover from this FBI blow. She's a criminal, and people who just barely accepted it are rethinking this again. She's done. Trump will win the election.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   10:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#8) (Edited)

Hate to say this. Yes she will.

Gosh I go away for a few years and come back to find the white supremacist male cons have completely taken over this site.

I've got some Hillary emails on my computer, some from Trump too. Who do I go to, to turn it in?

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   11:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

No, she won't. She's not going to recover from this FBI blow. She's a criminal, and people who just barely accepted it are rethinking this again. She's done. Trump will win the election.

Yet there's a very live civil suit against Trump from his pedophile days.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   12:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#11)

Gosh rag doll is back. Hope you stick around for a while. I enjoyed beating up on you and ridiculing your stupidity.

Fred is looking for a girlfriend.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-10-31   12:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13) (Edited)

Gosh rag doll is back. Hope you stick around for a while. I enjoyed beating up on you and ridiculing your stupidity.

Fred is looking for a girlfriend.

I have no doubt you beat up women every chance you get. The only thing is..... how much help do you need?

Do you grope too? Do you have tiny hands like your candidate?

He made a habit of stiffing painting contractors in NYC. Did he stiff you?

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   12:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#12)

Yet there's a very live civil suit against Trump from his pedophile days.

Nobody cares but Democrats. And there are not enough of you to win on your own.

You didn't have to nominate Clinton. You could have pressed Biden. If you'd done that, you would have won.

Clinton is too much of a criminal.

Thanks to her husband and his own impeachment, nobody cares about candidate's sexual sins and crimes anymore. Trump gets the same pass that Bill Clinton did. And it was the Clintons who taught us not to care about sex crimes in politicians. So, even if what you say is true, nobody cares.

People DO care about national secrets.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   13:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#15) (Edited)

What is sad is that Clinton is called a criminal by the very people who are unable to indict her multiple times. Such losers are the Republicans. As this was such an easy assignment yet remains so elusive.

Maybe if Republican would finally grow up and realize that wives are not responsible for the supposed sins of their husbands in the 21st century.

Trump gets no pass especially from the female vote that you apparently want to minimize. Too many of us have experienced a Trump like predator pedophile in the family.

If it's only Democrats who care, why are so many Republicans campaigning against him. You really shouldn't have to lie for him if your candidate is as wonderful as you think.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#16)

You really shouldn't have to lie for him if your candidate is as wonderful as you think.

I wish we had a wonderful candidate in this election cycle. We're screwed regardless.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-10-31   14:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

I wish we had a wonderful candidate in this election cycle.

So, you are not voting for my dead dawg Scruffy?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-10-31   14:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#14)

Stick around you make the place more interesting. We need a token liberal.

I might even agree with you from time to time.

Since you're a woman tell me if you want me to take it easy on you. I don't want to make you cry.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-10-31   14:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

In my whole life I can not remember having a wonderful candidate running for president, ever. They are all as flawed as we are.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Stick around you make the place more interesting. We need a token liberal.

I might even agree with you from time to time.

Since you're a woman tell me if you want me to take it easy on you. I don't want to make you cry.

Is that what you do? Banning is a tell for crying. Dontchaknow?

I see your latency is still an unresolved issue.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#16)

What is sad is that Clinton is called a criminal by the very people who are unable to indict her multiple times. Such losers are the Republicans. As this was such an easy assignment yet remains so elusive.

Maybe if Republican would finally grow up and realize that wives are not responsible for the supposed sins of their husbands in the 21st century.

Trump gets no pass especially from the female vote that you apparently want to minimize. Too many of us have experienced a Trump like predator pedophile in the family.

If it's only Democrats who care, why are so many Republicans campaigning against him. You really shouldn't have to lie for him if your candidate is as wonderful as you think.

We live in parallel universes. One will win and the other will lose.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   14:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#21)

If you promise to tell the truth and follow thru I will not ban you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-10-31   14:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, mininggold (#23)

This place has died since you banned sneakypete.

And now you threaten to ban mininggold???

I still visit here. I don't know why.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-10-31   14:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#23)

If you promise to tell the truth and follow thru I will not ban you.

LOL With you being the arbiter of what is truthful in the whole wide world. You are still a hoot.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#22) (Edited)

We live in parallel universes. One will win and the other will lose.

One side has been losing for almost a hundred and fifty years. See the Dalai Lama for details.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

I wish we had a wonderful candidate in this election cycle.

From Salem, MA, it's Vermin Supreme (not a witch).


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-10-31   14:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

This place has died since you banned sneakypete.

And now you threaten to ban mininggold???

I still visit here. I don't know why.

That's a shame. SP was an astute poster and had a good heart. Such a ban is very telling.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   14:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

I still visit here. I don't know why.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-10-31   15:29:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#26) (Edited)

One side has been losing for almost a hundred and fifty years. See the Dalai Lama for details.

True. As I recall, the Democrats were the party of slavery, and then Jim Crow segregation and poll taxes. So yeah, one side has been losing for 150 years.

And in this election they're going to lose again.

If you run a felon, you get what you're getting.

The Democrat Party should have made it clear to Hillary that, given the intense corruption and scandal that have always dogged the Clintons, she would not get their support. Instead, they all drank the Kool-ade and bought into it, even rigged everything against Sanders.

If you people were honest and not loyal to a crime family, you would have told the Clintons to stay retired and advanced Joe Biden. Biden says dumb things sometimes, but he sounds like a sober judge alongside Trump. Nobody can claim that Biden is corrupt, engages in pay-to-play. There is no tawdry circle of hangers-on around Biden.

If you'd have run a decent man, Biden, you would be walking away with the election.

But you had to foist this criminal, this rape-enabling incompetent. You could not resist the Clinton crime family. So now you've got them, and you're in the position where she either wins or she goes to jail.

You did this to yourselves. And now you're going to pay the price: all three branches of government in Republican hands, with the Democrats having already established the precedent of the nuclear option to override the filibuster.

The question you will have to ask yourselves in the shattered bunker you have left after the American people reject her and reject your party in this election, and hand over plenary power to pussy-grabbing Donald Trump (eeek) is this: why did we let it come to this? What are we going to do to never let it happen again?

YOU chose the Clintons to lead you. We've all known they were scum for 20 years. On the Right, we LEARNED from our bitter experience with the Bushes: Jeb! was defeated in the primaries by the margin of error. But you went for her. And now your political hopes are dying in the bunker with her. This is on you, not us.

Learn from it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   15:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mininggold (#11)

Gosh I go away for a few years

Finish sentence? or just out on parole?

calcon  posted on  2016-10-31   16:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

This place has died since you banned sneakypete.

And now you threaten to ban mininggold?

This place has been slowly dieing since it enjoyed an increase in activity from the death of liberty post because of the prominence of childish superficiality and immaturity here.

rlk  posted on  2016-10-31   16:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#25)

Im glad to know i can make you laugh.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-10-31   17:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#30)

YOU chose the Clintons to lead you. We've all known they were scum for 20 years. On the Right, we LEARNED from our bitter experience with the Bushes: Jeb! was defeated in the primaries by the margin of error. But you went for her. And now your political hopes are dying in the bunker with her. This is on you, not us.

Yet you let a felon and two child molesters lead you. Assange who traffics in stolen goods and Trump who probably does the same, since he has been a wage thief all his life.

Good luck with having a candidate who has never created success among anyone not in his immediate family.

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   18:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: calcon (#31) (Edited)

Finish sentence? or just out on parole?

Oh there you are...The accountant who was in favor of the Bush administration making accountants, agents of the IRS. How many have you turned in to the IRS on this site?

mininggold  posted on  2016-10-31   18:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold, calcon (#35)

Hillary is going to prison in 2017-18. I can't think of a more fitting house for her. Can you think of a better place?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-10-31   19:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#34) (Edited)

Assange has done the world a great service by exposing the secret criminality of government. I'm a fan.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   19:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#34)

Sex is irrelevant to office. Don't care about Trump. Didn't care about Bill Clinton either. I do care about cavalier handling of national secrets. Hillary thinks keeping things hidden from We, the People is more important than keeping national secrets hidden from the Russians.

In any case the people decide in a week. They're going to decide for Trump. If Obama doesn't pardon Hillary and Huma and others, they'll be headed to jail.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-31   19:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vicomte13 (#37)

Asante has done the world a great service

This guy?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-31   19:49:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Vicomte13 (#38)

If Obama doesn't pardon Hillary and Huma and others, they'll be headed to jail.

There is no tyme to "pardon" Clinton and Abedin. 0bama has to start taking the WhoreHouse furniture as his top priority.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-10-31   19:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo, mininggold, (#36)

hills getting really desperate now, rolling out that tired old leftist alias,mininggold

calcon  posted on  2016-10-31   21:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#40)

. 0bama has to start taking the WhoreHouse furniture

Hillary's got "experience".


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)

Hondo68  posted on  2016-10-31   21:11:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo (#36)

Hillary is going to prison in 2017-18. I can't think of a more fitting house for her. Can you think of a better place?

Yes! At the end of a rope!

rlk  posted on  2016-10-31   21:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Vicomte13 (#38)

Sex is irrelevant to office. Don't care about Trump. Didn't care about Bill Clinton either. I do care about cavalier handling of national secrets. Hillary thinks keeping things hidden from We, the People is more important than keeping national secrets hidden from the Russians.

I doubt the Republicans want that can of worms opened. Lots of precedence. With how many emails gone missing from the Bushies?

And it's only a civil code violation anyway, since your Russian/Wikileaks hacker amigos were never able to hack it.

mininggold  posted on  2016-11-01   0:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mininggold (#44)

Misappropriating national secrets is a felony. Destruction of evidence in an investigation is a felony. Perjury is a felony. Each time its done is a separate felony. Taking bribes is a felony.

The Clintons are finally cooked.

Russian hackers are not "my buddies". We don't have to be in a Cold War with Russia - the current administration started that by breaking the elected government of the Ukraine. We don't have to continue it, and under Trump, we're not going to.

See, if the Democrats stuck to their knitting, worried about working Americans, improved education, got us to single payer health insurance, and gave peace a chance with Russia (but unleashed hell on Islamic terrorism), they would be elected in a landslide.

But you're not doing these things. Instead, you've lashed yourselves to to masthead of the Clintons, a crime family, and insist that we have to have a pathological liar as the leader because SHE wants to be.

No.

Just no.

It is not going to happen.

You can try to shuck and jive and deflect the attention away from the pathologically lying felon you have at the top of your ticket, but it's not going to play. Her sort of crime goes right to the heart of democratic government, and it's not acceptable.

Trump's failings are not the issue. They're small beer compared to Hillary's. The voters are going to say so in a week. Whether the Democrats recover or not after the loss will be a matter of how quickly you expunge the evil from your midst. If you double down with butthurt pride and insist that we have to accept the Clintons, then you're going to be out of power for a long, long time.

If you use this opportunity to force those people into retirement - Obama can do this for you. He has never been a fan of the Clintons himself. All he needs to do is to direct the FBI investigations to continue apace, and privately tell Bill and Hillary that he will grant them a full pardon if they will retire from public life, he will have done your party good service.

Of course the Clintons won't stand up for their enablers. Huma Abedin, the loyal servant, will be thrown under the bus by Hillary like everybody else who ever gets into the Clinton inner circle and becomes expendable. Obama could pardon the whole Clinton criminal enterprise, but it would need to be on the condition that they be gone.

They will never accept that. And while it would save your party from its current poisoning, you probably won't accept that either, because it's "capitulation". You people are just hellbent on getting your crooks in there no matter what.

You're not going to, not ever, not if they're the Clintons. It's time for you guys to throw the Clintons under the bus to save your party, just as they have discarded so many people they felt were no longer of use to them. The Clintons are now nothing but a liability to you.

It would be great if Obama removed them as a problem for the country, and particularly for your party, before he leaves office. Pardon them, let them keep their loot, but make them publicly retire in return for it.

Or don't, and let us put them in jail for their crimes. That will be satisfying. Probably not good for the country, though. Certainly not good for your party. The Clintons sold you down the river. Cut them off and start anew.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-01   6:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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