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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: After Trump Loses, What's Next For The GOP?
Source: Impact Tap
URL Source: http://theimpacttap.com/2016/10/26/ ... at-comes-next-for-republicans/
Published: Oct 27, 2016
Author: Patrick Glennon
Post Date: 2016-10-27 09:29:40 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 18903
Comments: 105

It is very uncontroversial to say that Donald Trump is – well – controversial.

The Republican nominee for president has burned bridges with a number of communities: he mocked a reporter with a disability; he attacked the Muslim Gold Star parents of a fallen solider, alienating veterans and veterans’ families as well as Muslim-Americans; his attacks on women are too many to enumerate here, but a couple of highlights include the “grope” video describing how he sexually assaults women as well as his insinuation that moderator Megyn Kelly was perhaps menstruating during a Republican primary debate last year; he has also continuously suggested that black Americans live in some sort of post-apocalyptic hellscape.

Much to the chagrin of the majority of the United States electorate, none of these incidents seemed to dent Trump’s popularity among his support base, which helped reenforce the narrative of a viable Trump campaign by turning out in droves to his speaking events.

But as we edge closer to the end of this historically bizarre (and exceedingly long) election cycle, it appears a near-certainty that Trump will fall to Clinton on November 8. While Republican senate candidates are faring a little better than their toxic presidential nominee, the fact remains that the “Trump effect” has impacted their poll numbers. The result? Democrats are now the cautious favorite to retake the senate, dividing congress and sapping Republicans of the ability to completely stonewall a Clinton administration.

A quick look at the polling map lends some interesting insight into just how divisive Trump has been. Even if they still fall in Trump’s electoral basket come election day, Arizona, Texas, and Georgia have drifted very close to the toss-up column. This is a huge alarm for Republicans, who – following defeat to Barack Obama – drafted a plan to appeal to demographics pushed away by the Republican party’s rhetoric and policy, including millennials and Latin Americans.

Even before Trump’s scorched earth campaign, Republicans were worrying about demographic changes that indicate that traditionally safe conservative states – such as those mentioned above – could become more competitive as soon as the year 2020. This cycle did the party no favors; the political transition underway in conservative states may accelerate as Trump’s strategy of catering to white nationalist voters has alienated large swaths of the population Republicans were eager to mollify.

Republicans’ task of broadening their appeal will only be further complicated by a post-election Trump, who – analysts are suggesting – could use his formidable base and powerful media allies to target GOP leadership for failing to adequately support the pugnacious nominee. This “Republican civil war” could end in a number of ways. Perhaps it will end with a more 21st century party in-tune with contemporary social norms, women’s rights, and climate change. Or, the party could dissolve entirely.

We’ll have to wait and see.

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#31. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#26)

Since mid-September, only one pollster has ever shown a Trump lead.

Polls are not always correct:

You are misinformed Tooconservative.
ROTFL ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-10-28   11:40:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#31)

"The legend of Reagan’s epic comeback is largely the result of anomalous Gallup polling, which even showed a Carter advantage over the final month of the campaign. But if RealClearPolitics or Pollster.com had existed in 1980, the conventional wisdom would have been a little different. In fact, Reagan held a lead from mid-September onward and had a two or three point lead heading into the debates. Private polling conducted for the Reagan and Carter campaigns showed the same thing." - libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45380

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   11:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: ConservingFreedom (#30)

Since mid-September, only one pollster has ever shown a Trump lead." You are misinformed

Please educate me - what are the other recent polls that have shown a Trump lead?

(My sources are Realclearpolitics and Fivethirtyeight ... what are yours?)

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-...s/301834-poll-trump-up-1- on-clinton-nationally

hotair.com/archives/2016/...nal-poll-trump-ahead-one- point-4140/

www.westernjournalism.com...trump-moves-past-clinton- to-claim-the-lead/

There are a few there are more.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-10-28   15:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-...s/301834-poll-trump-up-1- on-clinton-nationally

hotair.com/archives/2016/...nal-poll-trump-ahead-one- point-4140

Those are two stories on the same poll. But your larger point is correct: looking at RCP's more-than-2-candidate polls, and sorting 538 by date as I originally failed to do :-[ , there have been a handful of pollsters who at some point have shown Trump with a narrow lead.

I continue to not buy that with those few exceptions, every one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   15:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ConservingFreedom (#34)

every one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts.

When has push-polling and misrepresenting poll results ever hurt their brand?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   16:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#31)

But Gallop would never hurt their "brand."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   16:29:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Roscoe (#36)

Gallop would never hurt their "brand."

One or a few pollsters might - but dozens?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   16:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Roscoe (#35)

When has push-polling

When have pollsters ever released the results of push-polls as real results ... or, indeed, released them at all?

and misrepresenting poll results ever hurt their brand?

Misrepresenting accurate results wouldn't affect their reps as providers of accurate results.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   16:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ConservingFreedom (#37)

Who would hold them accountable for pushing their/your pro-Hillary agenda through polling results? When have they ever been held accountable?

Your "brand' argument is self-serving nonsense.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   16:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ConservingFreedom (#37)

dozens?

"Pollsters vastly underestimated a Republican wave in the 2014 midterms, and last month had an epic fail in the Michigan Democratic primary, with the poll average predicting Hillary Clinton would crush Bernie Sanders by 21 points. When Sanders upset Clinton by 1.5 percent, polling aggregator Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight.com — who had given the Vermont senator just a 1 percent chance of winning — deemed it 'among the greatest polling errors in primary history.'" --The problem with polls

Put some ice on it.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   16:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Roscoe (#39)

Who would hold them accountable for pushing their/your pro-Hillary agenda through polling results?

Those who purchase, or heed, their results - by ceasing to do so.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   17:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Roscoe (#40)

The problem with polls

Leads with a general underestimation of a Rat victory, and does not say the errors were committed knowingly as is the topic of discussion.

Put some ice on it.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   17:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: ConservingFreedom (#41)

Those who purchase, or heed, their results - by ceasing to do so.

You mean like they did after Michigan?

Epic fail.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   19:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ConservingFreedom (#42)

does not say the errors were committed knowingly as is the topic of discussion.

"Pollsters vastly underestimated a Republican wave in the 2014 midterms, and last month had an epic fail in the Michigan Democratic primary, with the poll average predicting Hillary Clinton would crush Bernie Sanders by 21 points. When Sanders upset Clinton by 1.5 percent, polling aggregator Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight.com — who had given the Vermont senator just a 1 percent chance of winning — deemed it 'among the greatest polling errors in primary history.'"

Liar. You were spewing "brand" nonsense.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-28   19:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Roscoe (#43)

You mean like they did after Michigan?

Straws. Camels.

Apparently you're the pussy Trump wants to grab.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   22:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Roscoe (#44)

'does not say the errors were committed knowingly as is the topic of discussion.'

Liar. You were spewing "brand" nonsense.

Me, post #15: "Every single one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts? No sale."

The liar is, as always, you.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-28   22:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ConservingFreedom (#46) (Edited)

"Every single one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts? No sale."

You argued that bad forecasts would damage their brand, therefore they wouldn't deliberately produce such results. I can understand why would want to flee your premise, to the point of pretending is wasn't your actual argument.

I've already demolished your brand premise, showing massive large scale bad polling results. Your premise demolished, you crawled back then to your invalid conclusion. The logic abilities of a tpaine.

Let's review: "Pollsters vastly underestimated a Republican wave in the 2014 midterms, and last month had an epic fail in the Michigan Democratic primary, with the poll average predicting Hillary Clinton would crush Bernie Sanders by 21 points."

You haven't shown that those massive bad results damaged any of those pollsters brands. When you take a break from sniffing Hillary's cunt, would you like to at least try to address your "brand" premise that crashed and burned so spectacularly?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   5:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Willie Green (#0)

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-10-29   8:47:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: CZ82 (#48)

OMG!!! The HORROR... Where's the BARF ALERT when you need it???

Willie Green  posted on  2016-10-29   10:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: CZ82 (#48)

Hillary and the Cucumbers

After losing the race for the Presidency, Hillary Clinton retired and spent her final sad days puttering around in her garden. She jealously noticed that her even more elderly neighbor, Bernie Sanders, had a garden full of big healthy red tomatoes, but that her tomatoes were all sickly and green. She finally asked Bernie for his gardening secret, and he told her, "Every morning I expose myself in my garden and the tomatoes turn red from embarrassment." For the next few weeks Hillary followed Bernie's example in her own garden, but without the results she hoped for. Not only did her tomatoes stay sickly and green, all of her cucumbers shrank.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   10:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Roscoe (#47)

You haven't shown that those massive bad results damaged any of those pollsters brands.

One primary is not "large scale." You want to believe that pollsters saw in their surviving their blown 2014 a blank check to forecast any damn thing they please, you go ahead and believe that.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   16:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: ConservingFreedom (#51)

One primary is not "large scale."

"...the poll average predicting Hillary Clinton would crush Bernie Sanders by 21 points."

You pathetic cunt sniffing liar.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   17:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: ConservingFreedom (#38) (Edited)

"Misrepresenting accurate results wouldn't affect their reps as providers of accurate results."

If they oversampled Democrats by 50%, wouldn't their results still be accurate? Certainly not representative, but still accurate given the sample.

Weasel.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-29   18:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Roscoe (#52)

"You pathetic cunt sniffing liar."

I object to your description!

It's more accurate to say, "You condescending cunt sniffing liar".

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-29   18:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: misterwhite (#54)

I stand corrected.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   18:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: ConservingFreedom (#15)

Every single one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts? No sale.

The Tribune is still in business, pumping out liberal lies.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-29   18:44:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Roscoe (#55)

"I stand corrected."

Yeah ... well.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-29   18:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: misterwhite (#56)

As sniffer would say, "Every single one of dozens of news organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad reporting? No sale."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   18:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite (#53)

If they oversampled Democrats by 50%, wouldn't their results still be accurate? Certainly not representative, but still accurate given the sample.

I don't agree with that definition of "accurate" and don't use it.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   19:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: misterwhite (#56)

The Tribune is still in business

And from this pollsters have concluded they have a blank check to forecast any damn thing they please? You go ahead and believe that if you want.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   19:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

Facts always trigger you cucks.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-29   19:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Roscoe (#61)

trigger

Take your horse fantasies elsewhere.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   19:09:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

"And from this pollsters have concluded they have a blank check to forecast any damn thing they please?"

Pollsters, weather forecasters and union members -- all bulletproof.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-29   20:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

The Constitution Party electoral results 2012: On Election Day, Virgil Goode appeared on 26 state ballots and was a write-in in an additional 18 states. He finished in fifth place with 122,001 votes for 0.09% of the total popular vote.

Vinny  posted on  2016-10-29   21:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vinny (#64)

You keep saying that like it means something.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   22:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: misterwhite (#63)

weather forecasters

They make no attempt to be accurate? Those weather system predictions they show are from random generators?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-29   22:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: misterwhite (#63)

weather forecasters

You dare question Global Warming/Climate Change?!

Roscoe  posted on  2016-10-30   1:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: ConservingFreedom (#65)

You keep saying that like it means something.

My words do mean something. The Constitution Party that you keep pushing was registered in 44 states in 2012 and received app. 2700 votes in each of those states. More people attend one Friday night HS football game than vote for the CP. Your party isn't simply a non factor, it's an embarrassment.

Vinny  posted on  2016-10-30   9:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Roscoe (#67) (Edited)

"You dare question Global Warming/Climate Change?!"

No, Great and Powerul! Not at all! I ... uh ... was referring to weather. That's it! Weather. Not climate change.

I do believe in climate change. I do believe in climate change. I do! I do! I do!

How about if I come back tomorrow?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-30   10:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: ConservingFreedom (#66)

"They make no attempt to be accurate? Those weather system predictions they show are from random generators?"

My point is, when they are wrong it's never held against them.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-30   10:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Vinny (#68)

"... app. 2700 votes in each of those states."

Yet, but those voters are "sending a message". And that message is, "I'm too stupid to vote".

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-30   10:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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