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Title: Bill Clinton: Trump Base ‘Standard Rednecks’
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Lifezette
URL Source: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/ ... -trump-base-standard-rednecks/
Published: Oct 12, 2016
Author: Edmund Kozak
Post Date: 2016-10-12 15:21:43 by nolu chan
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Views: 1047
Comments: 17
Bill Clinton: Trump Base ‘Standard Rednecks’ Another Clinton insult is directed at millions of Americans concerned about their safety and the economy by Edmund Kozak The Clinton clan has once again demonstrated its utter contempt for average everyday Americans. Hillary Clinton infamously said that half of Trump’s supporters are a “deplorable” group of hateful bigots, and now her husband Bill Clinton has said that Trump supporters are “standard rednecks.” Clinton made the comments during an appearance at Palm Beach State College in Belle Glade, Florida, on Tuesday. “Look, man, the other guy’s base is what I grew up in,” the former president told the crowd of Clinton supporters. “You know, I’m basically your standard redneck.” The word redneck has obvious negative connotations, especially when bandied about by liberals, and Clinton’s use of the term was a clear dog whistle to Democrats. Trump’s base, Clinton is saying, is a bunch of ignorant, white racists. As despicable as they may be, Clinton’s comments are by no means surprising. The Clinton camp has campaigned largely on dismissing and demonizing Trump and his supporters as bigots. Unfortunately, while Clinton’s redneck remarks may be politically convenient in the short term, they are in the long term divisive and dangerous. Race relations are worse than they’ve been in decades and society is so polarized politically that it often seems as if there are two entirely separate Americas trying to occupy the same country. These wounds will continue to fester, and true bipartisanship will continue to be little more than a pipe dream, as long as liberals and progressives continue to portray all opposition to their ideological agenda as manifestations of ignorance and hate. So much for "stronger together."
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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)
Not seeing the hate: "The other guy's base is what I grew up in. You know, I'm basically your standard redneck. I was the first person that ever went to college in my family. I had a grandfather who I told you was a saint, and he and my grandmother fought all the time. And the only thing they agreed on was education and civil rights. He had a sixth grade education, she had a correspondent's degree in nursing. They knew we were all the same. So I deserve no credit for what I tried to do. I was just raised that way. "But I know how they feel. And I'm telling you, the older you get the worse it is, if you look in the mirror every day and you think you can't do anything to change the future. And a lot of you have felt, we've all had days like that, haven't we? Days we can live with; months we can live with; years, a decade, that's a tough sell." A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. I would not expect you to see the hate in calling Trump's base rednecks.
"But I know how they feel. And I'm telling you, the older you get the worse it is, if you look in the mirror every day and you think you can't do anything to change the future. And a lot of you have felt, we've all had days like that, haven't we? Days we can live with; months we can live with; years, a decade, that's a tough sell." Clinton sounds pretty sympathetic here, actually. "Redneck" is not an offensive term when used by people who like rednecks, or who are rednecks.
The more Trump shoots himself in the foot, the more scattershot become his supporters' attacks on Clinton.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Only Bill Clinton was not paying a compliment to Trump supporters, even if he delivered his remark in his aw shucks, good ol' boy manner.
what's wrong with saying you are a working class person and they are too, seems all the working class should line up with the democrats, just because. I was raised with this sort of thinking, meaning you shouldn't think for yourself just vote your class. Dilliary is worried the working class are lining up with Dump even though they are supposed to support her and if they don't they are deplorable. Red neck just means you work in the sun, any other connotation is snobbery, which makes Dilliary the worst kind of snob
Yeah, along with the Catholics of the bastardized religion, and the needy latinos. I wonder if if a Catholic called Judaism a bastardized religion of the middle ages, Jews would call it a blood libel or some such. Or perhaps they could refer to needy Blacks. And we have a lot of Wididumps to come.
what is your problem with catholics? I notice you didn't say islam is a bastardised religion
You have to take this one up with Clintonites John Halpin and Jennifer Palmieri. Needy Latinos is John Podesta. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4364 From:jhalpin@americanprogress.org Subject: Re: Conservative Catholicism Excellent point. They can throw around "Thomistic" thought and "subsidiarity" and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they're talking about. Jennifer Palmieri wrote: I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals. ----- Original Message ----- Ken Auletta's latest piece on Murdoch in the New Yorker starts off with the aside that both Murdoch and Robert Thompson, managing editor of the WSJ, are raising their kids Catholic. Friggin' Murdoch baptized his kids in Jordan where John the Baptist baptized Jesus. Many of the most powerful elements of the conservative movement are all Catholic (many converts) from the SC and think tanks to the media and social groups. It's an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.
Christianity is not and never has been a democracy. A democracy can have christian values but the church cannot rule the state and be a democracy, the same is true of Islam. You must not confuse christians in politics with christianity. Christianity demands the high moral ground, this is why it is not in vogue in america, so what you have is a pale shadow, the cloak of respectability. If Murdoch and others want to return to the religion of their childhood, so what, some of us have been there and won't go back, but you cannot type cast an entire people on the evil actions of so called leaders. What you can do is insist on transpairity, whether that is catholics, masons, muslims or anyone else. You want to denounce catholics, start denouncing masons. Look there for systematic thought and very odd ideas
This dumbass can't even be an American if he doesn't understand why Klinton is often called "Bubba."
The election will be what it will be. If Trump wins, that will be great, but it will be BECAUSE he rejected Republican economics and struck off in a protectionist direction. If Hillary wins, it will, again, be because of Republican economics. Any way you slice it, the fatal Republican flaw is their stubborn, unworkable economic beliefs. Trickle down does not work, a substantial majority of the nation knows that, and with each passing year, that majority gets larger. So, Republicans really have two choices: CHANGE their economic beliefs to face the REAL WORLD that voters face, or be irrelevant losers for the next thousand years. There is no universe in which those bad ideas win power again in America, EVER. Trump has a chance precisely BECAUSE he has taken Republican economic beliefs and thrown them on the floor. Trump is a protectionist - he rejects free trade. Trump understands the people's need for universal health insurance. He gets it. Trump understands that immigration is about American working class jobs. Trump understands that the government is the employer of last resort, which is why he proposes spending DOUBLE what Hillary proposes on infrastructure - to create huge numbers of construction jobs AT THE SAME TIME that he is driving Mexicans out of the country. That will re-employ the white, and black, and Latino AMERICAN working class. It's like FDR's WPA. Trump gets it. He gets it, and the mainline Republicans HATE him for it. If Trump wins, the GOP will be changed into a protectionist party in which the state plays a prominent role in employment and social welfare. If Hillary wins, we will still have free trade, and the state will be more aggressively socialist. The American people will vote for those things. The American people will never again vote for Reagan's voodoo trickle-down, because it has manifestly failed and more and more and more people FEEL the failure of it in their own lives. The wealth DID get generated, and concentrated at the top, but it never trickled down, and it never will. The only way to MAKE it trickle down is redistributive taxation, which is precisely what is required. No victorious party and candidate will ever run again who doesn't get that. We will not abolish Obamacare and give up on universal health insurance. We will double down on it and make it single payer first - which we should have done in the first place, truth be told. In any case, Republicans are not there yet. Their party leaders have been talking about how the party has to be open to Hispanic illegals. Not true. Even if the party is open, the Hispanics won't VOTE for it anyway, because poor people need social welfare, not smiles. The Republican ability to bamboozle the public on social and national security issues while concentrating the wealth at the top is over. They don't realize it yet. Trump does, but they hate him. Until the Republicans do, they will never hold power again, and what little they have now will ebb away. Trickle-down economics, like monarchy, are ideas whose time has passed, and that will never, ever be resuscitated. Republicans must retire those old, failed ideas and adjust their economic thinking, or just be marginalized, ignored people, history's losers, the Tories of the economic revolution of the 20th Century, but this time with no Canada to flee too.
I did not advocate this. Clintonites John Halpin and Jennifer Palmieri did. I was mocking their indiscretion gone public. Here is John Podesta on needy Latinos and Bill Richardson being a dick. Bill Richardson being a dick makes him stand out among the liberal Dems as they are mostly pussies. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6777 From:john.podesta@gmail.com A few calls you might consider making: 1) Fedrico Pena. Ken Salazar who has been an absolute trooper really wants to get Fedrico Pena on board. I talked to Pena early, before March and he hemmed and hawed. Ken had lunch with him early this week and reports the following, he's close to committing but carrying some baggage. Fed never said this to me but he confided to Ken that his Cabinet stints ripped up his family, he gave everything to the cause and no time to his family, he went through a messy divorce in the late 90's and was left really down and felt like no one reached out to him then so he felt pretty cut off from Clinton World. In 07, the only candidate that asked for his support was Obama, so he endorsed. (by the way, not sure any of this is factually accurate, but this is how he is feeling). His life now revolves around his new wife, Cindy, who is a supporter of yours and came to the fundraiser at the Chambers house. He kind of wants to be with you, but this stuff is still grinding on him. Ken suggests a call to him and was very explicit about making the following four points: 1) you really enjoyed seeing Cindy at the Chambers event and appreciate her support. 2) ask him how he's been doing 3) ask about his views on the race and what she should be doing in Colorado 4) ask that he consider publicly supporting you. On balance, I recommend making this call as much because it's important to Ken who has been great. Pena's cell: 303-294-1824 2) Bill Richardson. I had heard that you were upset that I encouraged a call between WJC and Richardson to bury the hatchet. I did that at the request of Jose Villarreal who pushed me and made the point that Richardson is still on TV a lot, especially on Univision and Telemundo and not withstanding the fact that he can be a dick, it was worth getting him in a good place. He had a good conversation with the President and has been good in his interviews since. I have pressed Bill, but I think it will take a call from you to get a formal endorsement. He's on Meet the Press on Sunday. Probably worth a quick call to ask him to stay stout and publicly endorse, but if it's too galling, don't bother. Richardson's cell: 505-699-4862 3) Governor Jim Hodges. I just spent a couple days in South Carolina and did an event with him and Steve Benjamin where he endorsed. He was really good and I think it sent a strong signal in South Carolina, following Dick Reilly's endorsement, that the support there is strong broad and determined. He and his wife Rachel also co hosted a successful fundraiser with Don and Carol Fowler and Ben and Sydney Rex that I attended. Worth a quick call to Jim to thank him and Rachel for their support. Hodges cell: 803-315-0955
You can't even be an American if you do not understand that Clinton was speaking disparagingly of Trump supporters in liberal dog whistle speak.
Just calling a spade a spade from what I can see...
Your optometrist is calling...
http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/bill-clinton-calls-trumps-base-your-standard-redneck Todd Starnes Former President Bill Clinton has compared Donald Trump's base to "your standard redneck." "The other guy's base is what I grew up in," he told a crowd in Fort Meyers, Fla. "I'm basically your standard redneck." Mr. President, I know some rednecks. And you, sir, are no redneck. His wife Hillary had previously smeared Trump backers as a "basket of deplorables" who are "irredeemable." "They are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it," she said at an LGBT-themed fundraiser in New York City. Of course, it's not all that unusual for Democrats to insult patriotic, church-going Americans. President Obama started the denigration in 2007 when he called folks who "cling to their guns" and "cling to their religion" as bitter Americans. Well, I'm proud to call myself a gun-toting, Bible-clinging, Flag-waving, Son-of-a-Baptist and I'm not bitter and I'm not deplorable. I'm a blessed American. To quote that great American philosopher Charlie Daniels, "What this world needs is a few more rednecks, some people ain't afraid to take a stand. What this world needs is a little more respect, for the Lord and the law and the working man." Amen, Brother Charlie.
#2. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)
Not seeing the hate:
#3. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)
"The other guy's base is what I grew up in. You know, I'm basically your standard redneck. I was the first person that ever went to college in my family. I had a grandfather who I told you was a saint, and he and my grandmother fought all the time. And the only thing they agreed on was education and civil rights. He had a sixth grade education, she had a correspondent's degree in nursing. They knew we were all the same. So I deserve no credit for what I tried to do. I was just raised that way.
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
"Redneck" is not an offensive term when used by people who like rednecks, or who are rednecks.
#6. To: nolu chan (#5)
#7. To: paraclete (#6)
seems all the working class should line up with the democrats, just because.
#8. To: nolu chan (#7)
Yeah, along with the Catholics of the bastardized religion, and the needy latinos.
#9. To: paraclete (#8)
what is your problem with catholics? I notice you didn't say islam is a bastardised religion.
Re: Conservative Catholicism
To: JPalmieri@americanprogress.org, john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2011-04-11 21:10
From: John Halpin
To: John Podesta ; Jennifer Palmieri
Sent: Mon Apr 11 18:55:59 2011
Subject: Conservative Catholicism
#10. To: nolu chan (#9)
(Edited)
It's an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.
#11. To: nolu chan (#0)
Author: Edmund Kozak
#12. To: (#10)
#13. To: paraclete (#10)
You must not confuse christians in politics with christianity.
Needy Latinos and 1 easy call
To: hdr29@hrcoffice.com, ha16@hillaryclinton.com
Date: 2015-08-21 14:01
Subject: Needy Latinos and 1 easy call.
#14. To: Willie Green (#11)
This dumbass can't even be an American if he doesn't understand why Klinton is often called "Bubba."
#15. To: nolu chan (#14)
#16. To: Willie Green (#15)
Just calling a spade a spade from what I can see...
#17. To: Willie Green (#15)
Mr. Clinton, I know rednecks, and you, sir, are no redneck
October 11, 2016
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