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Title: The Case for Sane Conservatives to Strategically Vote for Hillary Clinton to Save the GOP
Source: Mediaite
URL Source: http://www.mediaite.com/online/the- ... llary-clinton-to-save-the-gop/
Published: Oct 12, 2016
Author: John Ziegler
Post Date: 2016-10-12 12:19:16 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1226
Comments: 10

trump-clinton-2I have been struck how often in my life and career that the correct answer to a quandary is NOT what conventional wisdom would universally suggest, but actually the opposite of what every obvious impulse would advise. For instance, I never knew (until it was way too late to help me) that about the very worst way to persuade a woman to really like you, contrary to my natural instinct, is make it clear that you like her first.

It is with this reality in mind that I have been approaching this existential crisis within conservatism caused by Donald Trump, about which I have been warning/predicting for over a year now.

Currently, it appears the nightmare scenario for the Republican Party is almost inevitable. Saddled with a losing presidential candidate who is not one of their own and has no loyalties, or philosophical connection, to its preservation, the GOP is set up to lose a very winnable presidential election and the key Supreme Court seat which go with it in this cycle. But now, thanks largely to Trump’s recent implosion and decision to appeal only to his base (and thus build subscribers/”street cred” for a post-election media venture), the GOP could also lose control of Congress, as independent voters flee the party and Trump’s most fanatical fans threaten to sabotage them as revenge for their disloyalty to their fearless leader.

After the infamous Billy Bush “pussy” tape was leaked last Friday, I wrote that the only way to save any of this increasingly dire situation was for the GOP to effectively get Trump personally invested financially in the outcome of the congressional races. Based on the contentious reactions of both the GOP establishment and Trump, it does not appear that any such deal has been reached (though the firing of Trump’s Virginia campaign chairman over a planned GOP protest does leave a tiny sliver of hope).

It is my very strong belief that the two worst possible presidential scenarios for the long-term survival of both conservatism and the Republican Party as we have known it, are: Hillary Clinton winning by a smallish margin and Trump winning in something other than a landslide. Frankly, in the long term (four to eight years), while I know this is GOP heresy, I am not at all certain which of those outcomes would be more catastrophic for the country, or the cause of conservatism.

Since Trump winning at all is now seemingly approaching “The Cleveland Browns Win the Super Bowl” odds, let’s take that result (and the obvious long-term ruin it would create for the country and the party to have a completely unqualified con-man, with the temperament of a child, as our president) off the table. This leaves what, up until very recently, has been the outcome most often predicted by the “experts”: a small but comfortable victory for Hillary.

In this scenario, the following events are basically certain to follow:

  • Trump and his millions of mindless supporters aggressively claim that the election was “rigged” and don’t even accept the result, consequently “Trumpism” is not widely perceived to have failed electorally, and the GOP base further blames/distrusts the “establishment” for having supposedly (though not really) cost Trump the election.
  • Trump remains very politically viable (the media will continue to obsess over his every move) and an even more destructive force for 2020, making it nearly impossible for Hillary to be defeated, even if Trump himself passes on running again.
  • The “conservative” media establishment which facilitated Trump’s nomination for their own personal gain suffers no consequences (they have Hillary to knock around and “Never Trumpers” to blame) and will be free to create the same lucrative mischief again in 2020.
  • The GOP lacks any viable identity whatsoever and ceases to be united by anything other than not being Democrats, but now is forced to completely surrender character issues for which we used to resoundingly attack liberals.
  • Depending on how bad the down-ballot losses are, the ability of the GOP in Congress to “check” Hillary is limited and possibly non-existent.
  • Antonin Scalia is replaced on the Supreme Court by a liberal (though, importantly, I believe Trump’s knee-jerk willingness to now throw down-ballot Republicans under the bus is a sure giveaway that it was always a scam that he would nominate real conservatives if ever given the opportunity).
  • Hillary governs as a liberal (though less ideologically than Obama) who is trying to get reelected, but who is very confident, thanks to the GOP disarray, that this will happen no matter how far left she decides to drift.

All of that is just about as bad as it can get for conservatism. However, a rational look at a scenario where Trump is crushed electorally (worse than John McCain’s 2008 loss to Barack Obama should be a sensible standard) illustrates that future may not be nearly so bleak for Republicans.

Under this result, here are the likely outcomes:

  • Donald Trump is seen as rejected as a major political force, goes on an embarrassing temper tantrum as his new brand is that of “loser,” and he focuses of the creation of “Trump TV” where he isolates himself to a relatively small audience from which he will try to con $10 a month in subscriptions. The media still covers him, but not nearly as much. His perceived power slowly fades away much like Sarah Palin’s did.
  • There is a real chance that at least some of the “conservative” media charlatans who caused this fiasco see their careers and influence wither and die as their former core audience no longer trusts them and the “Trumpsters” lose interest and move on to NASCAR and episodes of Duck Dynasty.
  • Scalia is replaced by a liberal (though a moderate one if the Senate quickly confirms Merrick Garland in a lame duck session).
  • The GOP likely loses the Senate and maybe the House (though it should be pointed out that if it is widely accepted Hillary is going to win this may greatly help the GOP down-ballot by diminishing her turnout and increasing public desire to place a “check” on her), but, with Trump no longer dictating everything about how they are seen, they are able to take advantage of an extremely conducive 2018 midterm map, and there is a repeat of the 2010 Republican landslide.
  • In 2020, with Trump mostly diminished, and the party presumably having learned a few lessons from the 2016 debacle, the GOP nominates Marco Rubio (if he wins reelection in November), Scott Walker, or some other qualified adult who is an actual Republican. Against a very old and very unpopular Hillary Clinton running for her party’s fourth straight term during an era of economic stagnation (at best), the Republicans take the White House and Trumpism is forever exorcized like the malignant cancer that it is.
  • Hillary governs as a liberal who is trying to get reelected, but who needs to be careful because, thanks to Trump’s diminishment and Rubio’s (the candidate she feared most) reelection, she is not so confident that it will happen.

Normally there would be anxiety that a larger electoral victory would provide a new president with greater powers to enact their legislative agenda, but I honestly believe that this year is unique. The narratives that Hillary is very un-liked and that Trump is a “giant meteor strikes the earth” sort of candidate are extremely well engrained in both the media and public consciousness.

Consequently, I don’t think it is naïve to conclude, as long as there is not a complete collapse of GOP support in Congress, that Hillary would be perceived as merely a “placeholder” president and not be particularly powerful. After all, when your entire campaign is, “I stink less than Donald Trump,” it really doesn’t create much of a political “mandate.”

Based on this analysis, a rational person can easily conclude that it is far better for the long-term viability of the Republican Party if Hillary wins by a large margin than if she only gives Trump a “Romney” style defeat. So, what should conservatives do under the current circumstances? Well, that’s where things get interesting.

In order for this theory to be placed into action, a block of conservatives must first accept that Hillary IS, barring a catastrophic event far beyond anyone’s control, indeed going to be the next president. This was an outcome which was highly preventable at one time, but there is NOTHING we can do to stop that now. Only an act of God can prevent this from happening and, based on the campaign so far there is no evidence he/she is even paying attention.

Once that premise is accepted, then the best path for how to proceed becomes far clearer, though hardly easy. I believe it includes at least some Republicans doing the unthinkable and voting, strategically and silently, for Hillary Clinton.

Considering the malevolent case of Clinton Derangement Syndrome which has understandably overtaken the GOP (and of which Trump, bizarrely, despite his close relationship with both of them, has taken full advantage), this is roughly like asking fans of Alabama to root for hated rival Auburn in their annual Iron Bowl football game. This was proven by the absurd, inaccurate, and juvenile reaction that Breitbart.com had when their rival Glenn Beck dared to simply suggest that he considered (and rejected) just the IDEA of voting for Hillary.

However, I have come to the conclusion that, regardless as how distasteful it may be, the only way to give conservatism any hope of surviving this catastrophe is for at least a small segment of Republicans to swallow the nasty medicine of “supporting” for Hillary Clinton for president.

To be clear, I am not suggesting that all Republicans consider taking this seemingly inconceivable action. Specifically, I’m really only asking two very specific groups to contemplate the merits of this idea.

The first is Republicans who answer polling phone calls between now and November 8th. By telling pollsters that you are a Republican who supports Hillary, you are not actually voting for her or in any way directly helping her win, but you are fortifying the correct perception that Trump cannot win and that the focus of all Americans should be on making sure there is a congressional check on an imminent Hillary presidency.

The second group is Republicans who live in the following states: Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Missouri and Utah. This is a group of states where Trump could win all of them and he still would not win the presidency. Therefore, because there is no realistic path to 270 Electoral College votes for him even with all of these states, there is no fear that helping to create a loss for Trump in anyone one of them would directly help elect Hillary.

These are also all states where it would only take a very small number of Republicans flipping to Hillary (or, in Utah, one of the other viable options like conservative Evan McMullin) to ensure that Trump lost them. If Trump loses all of these already very precarious states, then his defeat is assured of being far too great for any silly claims of “rigging” or lack of establishment support being seen as its cause, except by the most delusional/insane members of his rabid following who are impervious to facts and logic.

I am well aware that I do not have anywhere near the influence to get an idea like this even started, and that I will get called all sorts of nasty names for even suggesting it. However, I am confident that it is the only strategy (at least that I have heard) which stands a chance of promoting the long-term survival of the GOP and the conservative cause. Unlike Trump, both of these once-revered entities have earned the right to not be fully abandoned until all realistic hope is lost. Desperate times call for desperate measures and there is no doubt that, thanks to Trump, this is exactly where conservatives are today. (1 image)

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

" The Case for Sane Conservatives to Strategically Vote for Hillary Clinton to Save the GOP "

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. LOL

The author of this article, and anyone including the poster, that believes that, has obviously been consuming copious quantities of illegal mind altering substances. Those people should be placed in straight jackets, and dumped out in the Antarctic.

Stoner  posted on  2016-10-12   12:26:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner, Willie Green (#1)

Anyone that believes saving the GOP or country by voting for the most corrupt person in the history of politics is far from sane.

Its already been proven that if you vote for progressive ways you are mentally insane. Which common sense indicates as well.

OMG people really believe "I was not trying to hide something or evade the law by destroying all my work emails, using an industrial hard drive wiper and taking a hammer to the hard drive is normal!" or "I need at least 11 untraceable blackberry phones bought off ebay with cash to run the state department(even though state department provides all devices needed)". Not to forget she said she was only able to use one device being tech challenged!

This women is the biggest liar in a group of world class liars!

Justified  posted on  2016-10-12   13:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#3)

You obviously just misunderstand the poor woman. LOL

Stoner  posted on  2016-10-12   13:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#5. To: Stoner (#4)

I guess I need to be insane to understand her?

If doing crack, meth, LSD and a few more hard drugs is what it takes then forget it. I will stick to being sane! ;)

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