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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Trump Is 'Barely a Republican,' According to Boehner
Source: NBC News
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/card/trump-b ... ican-according-boehner-n664896
Published: Oct 12, 2016
Author: F. Brinley Bruton
Post Date: 2016-10-12 07:39:43 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 3190
Comments: 14

Former House Speaker John Boehner has described his party's presidential nominee as "barely a Republican."

Donald Trump is "not a conservative," Boehner told VICE News in an interview excerpt released Tuesday. "He's barely a Republican. He kind of became a Republican in order to run."

Still, Boehner said he'd be voting for Trump.

"His ideas, when you can get to them, are frankly more in the direction that I would want the country to go to than Hillary Clinton," he said. "Donald wasn't my first choice, wasn't my second choice. For that matter, he wasn't my third choice. But he's the nominee and I'm going to vote for him."

Boehner resigned in October 2015 after prolonged pressure from Republican conservatives who accused him of failing to fight President Barack Obama on key issues.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

It is true that Trump is not a Republican in the standard sense that "Republicanism" has come to mean. Specifically, he does not buy into the economic garbage that has been Republican ideological orthodoxy since Reagan.

He is a mercantilist, not a free trader. He does not believe in cheap exploitable labor. He believes in the social safety net, notably: universal health care. He has no suggestions to end unemployment benefits, privatize Social Security, cut off welfare, end public schooling or any other of the ridiculous minoritarian fringe crap that has long been the central crank - er, plank - of the Republican platform.

The Republican Party has become the minority party BECAUSE OF economics - specifically free trade and beggar-your-neighbor labor policy.

Trump is an economic nationalist and a populist. He gets it. The Republicans still don't, and many Republicans will stay home because they reject Trump's protectionism.

Of course, the Republicans didn't win with Romney either, and he was front and center a representative of Republican economics.

In any case, if Hillary wins, it's over. The Republicans will never win another national election for the rest of our lives.

A NEW party could arise, one that would be socially conservative and economically liberal. THAT is where a lot of Americans are. The bulk of Americans are economically liberal, because they live in the real world and recognize that a government-financed broad social safety net, including universal QUALITY education, universal government-backed health insurance, universal pensions (in the form of Social Security), unemployment benefits, living wage minimum wages, food stamps, housing assistance, unemployment benefits, welfare and labor protections, and banking and investment regulation, are all fundamental necessities of the modern world.

The majority - a very large majority - of Americans know that. Independents know it. Democrats know it. Some Republicans know it. But for the most part, the Republican party opposes all of that uniformly. THAT is why the GOP is the minority party: they are still living in the 1920s, when Warren Harding's and Calvin Coolidge's casino economy was running wild, heading for a massive bust. The bust happened, and it took many of those policies, in the form of FDRs New Deal, to turn things around.

The New Deal worked, but Republican ideologues have been fighting it ever since. Because they are idiots, they cannot get the American people behind them on that, so they've turned to fiery social and religious issues instead, and tried to stampede people with anger. It worked for awhile, but the game is old, and the economy is too difficult now for people to take their eyes off the ball. So Republicans lose. That is why they lost.

And that is why, if Hillary wins this time, the GOP is finished.

A new party, one that is economically liberal and accepts the need for New Deal, Great Society, Universal health care and rational redistributionism, but that is not bat-shit crazy on social and moral issues, would be an instant majority.

THAT will be the party that will challenge the Democrats in the future. Republicanism, with its reliance on the repetitively tested-and-failed unregulated free trade economy, is not competitive. Its crank economics, and the people do not buy it, and never will.

Trump doesn't stand for Republican economics. He stands for populist economics and protectionism.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-12   9:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

The silence is deafening.

Elected and unelected Bureaucrats, leeches, and cockroaches are all part of the same family in the animal kingdom.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-10-12   10:06:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

And that is why, if Hillary wins this time, the GOP is finished.

If Hillary wins this time, the country is lost. Since being brainwashed at Wellesly she's been an an a subversive countercultural angry Marxist dedicated to destruction of this nation. Now she's found an additional army of footsoldiers to do it in her support of unrestricted invasion by parasitic immigrants and international support of islamic jihad.

rlk  posted on  2016-10-12   10:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste (#2)

" The silence is deafening. "

Bob, thanks for posting that. It is very, very good. I am forwarding that on to many that I know.

I think we all should ask that question any time we are conversing with elected representatives / senators, local party officials, etc when conversing vocally, in emails, or letters.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-10-12   11:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BobCeleste (#2)

The silence is deafening.

The Case for Sane Conservatives to Strategically Vote for Hillary Clinton to Save the GOP

Willie Green  posted on  2016-10-12   12:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#0)

Former House Speaker John Boehner has described his party's presidential nominee as "barely a Republican."

But nobody denies Boehner is a pussy.

Sergei Lavrov — So many pussies

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/russias_lavrov_so_many_pussies_around_the_presidential_campaign_on_both_sides_that_i_prefer_not_to_comment.html

Russia's Lavrov: "So Many Pussies" On Both Sides Of U.S. Presidential Campaign

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date October 12, 2016

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that there are "so many pussies" in the presidential campaign, on both sides, in an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour. Lavrov was asked about the Republican nominee for president's use of the word and if he believed this was "Donald Trump's pussy riot moment."

AMANPOUR: Can I just try one last question? One last question. A bit cheeky but I'm going to ask you. Russia had its own Pussy Riot moment. What do you think of Donald Trump’s pussy riot moment?

LAVROV: Well, I don't know what this would… English is not my mother tongue, I don't know if I would sound decent. There are so many pussies around the presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment on this.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-10-12   13:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rlk (#3)

If Hillary wins this time, the country is lost.

The country as it was.

The country she will leave will be socialistic, like Europe. Most people will be pretty content with that, too, because it will improve the standard of living for most people.

It will be a very free country in terms of personal sexual liberty - a libertine republic.

SOME of the very rich - the ones who support Democrats - will be happy. The rest will see their wealth redistributed.

If Hillary wins, she will run the table, and the country will be different - and the majority of people will like it like that, keeping her and her party in power for a long, long time to maintain the new status quo.

To fight that, Republicans have to get real on economics. Trump's protectionism is a good start, but he has to WIN for it to mean anything.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-12   14:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BobCeleste (#2)

Exactly!

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-12   14:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#6)

" nobody denies Boehner is a pussy "

Gee, I wonder why? /sarc

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-10-12   14:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rlk (#3)

A vote for clinton is a vote for Civil War.

Elected and unelected Bureaucrats, leeches, and cockroaches are all part of the same family in the animal kingdom.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-10-13   7:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

a vote for clinton is a vote for civil war.

Elected and unelected Bureaucrats, leeches, and cockroaches are all part of the same family in the animal kingdom.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-10-13   7:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#5)

A vote for clinton is a vote for Civil War.

Elected and unelected Bureaucrats, leeches, and cockroaches are all part of the same family in the animal kingdom.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-10-13   8:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BobCeleste (#12)

Willie Green  posted on  2016-10-13   8:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BobCeleste (#11)

a vote for clinton is a vote for civil war.

Well, that will resolve the issue, I suppose.

Republicans are in the minority. If they launch a Civil War, the results will be the same as last time: the minority side will get slaughtered.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-13   9:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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