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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Member Of Trump’s Evangelical Council Calls Him ‘Lecherous And Worthless’
Source: Talking Points Memo
URL Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi ... orthless-access-hollywood-tape
Published: Oct 11, 2016
Author: Allegra Kirkland
Post Date: 2016-10-11 08:55:40 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1651
Comments: 29

A megachurch pastor who sits on Donald Trump’s evangelical council denounced the Republican presidential candidate as “lecherous and worthless” over a leaked 2005 video in which Trump boasted about grabbing women.

“Mr. Trump’s comments released yesterday—though 10 years ago (he was 60)—are not just sophomoric or locker room banter,” James MacDonald of Harvest Bible Chapel, an Illinois-based evangelical church, wrote in an email Saturday to his fellow members of Trump’s faith council and some opponents of the GOP candidate. “They are truly the kind of misogynistic trash that reveals a man to be lecherous and worthless—not the guy who gets politely ignored, but the guy who gets a punch in the head from worthy men who hear him talk that way about women.”

The email was first flagged by The Washington Post and published on a blog by Ed Stetzer, a professor of evangelism at Wheaton College.

Despite this caustic language, MacDonald did not abandon support for Trump outright. Instead, he said he’s putting the campaign “on notice” pending the release of another damning tape and will no longer speak out on Trump’s behalf without a “change of heart and direction.”

“If Mr. Trump isn’t seeking our counsel now—1) to be repentant 2) on how to portray that repentance, then the idea of a faith council (which has deteriorated into influence brokering anyway) is really kind of a joke right?” MacDonald wrote.


Trump has done little to seek repentance for the tape published Friday by the Washington Post, in which he describes being able to get away with doing “anything” to women without their consent because of his celebrity status. He and his surrogates have dismissed the conversation as “locker room talk” and pivoted to describing Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions.

The tape has fractured the congressional GOP and Trump’s evangelical supporters. Prominent evangelicals including Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell Jr. are standing by him, but the Post reported that the editorial board of Christianity Today and theologian Wayne Grudem have condemned Trump’s comments.


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#7. To: Willie Green (#0)

the guy who gets a punch in the head from worthy men who hear him talk that way about women.”

If someone had given The Donald the fat lip he deserved about 50 years ago, he might not be the narcissistic swine he is today.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-11   15:39:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ConservingFreedom (#7)

"If someone had given The Donald the fat lip he deserved about 50 years ago"

What did he do 50 years ago to deserve a fat lip?

And if he's been talking that way for 50 years, why is everyone surprised about this latest revelation? You knew who you were nominating.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-11   17:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

And if he's been talking that way for 50 years,

You think he started in his late 50s?

You knew who you were nominating.

I didn't nominate him. The folks who did seem to mostly be rationalizing or excusing rather than condemning what he said.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-11   17:24:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ConservingFreedom (#10)

"You think he started in his late 50s?"

Does anyone? If not, then you've made my point -- We all knew who we were getting.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-11   18:44:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#12)

"You think he started in his late 50s?"

Does anyone? If not, then you've made my point -- We all knew who we were getting.

There's boorish, and then there's "grab 'em by the pussy."

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-11   21:32:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ConservingFreedom (#17)

"There's boorish, and then there's "grab 'em by the pussy."

And there's public behavior and private behavior. There are words and there are deeds.

This "misogynist" employs more female executives then men -- and pays them more. Yeah. He hates women, all right.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-12   10:08:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#18)

This "misogynist" employs more female executives then men -- and pays them more. Yeah. He hates women, all right.

Did I say he was a misogynist or a woman-hater - or are you flailing at straw men as usual?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-12   11:25:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ConservingFreedom (#21)

"Did I say he was a misogynist or a woman-hater"-

Did you?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-12   12:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#24)

"Did I say he was a misogynist or a woman-hater"-

Did you?

English not your first language? No, I did not.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-10-12   14:47:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: ConservingFreedom (#25)

Ah. So you were offended by the word "pussy"?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-12 17:12:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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