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Title: Donald Trump is in Trouble
Source: Liberty Blitzkrieg
URL Source: http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/
Published: Oct 7, 2016
Author: Michael Krieger
Post Date: 2016-10-07 23:37:37 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 15161
Comments: 47

*Note: Since this post was published, some material information has hit in the form of a massive, meaningful data-dump from Wikileaks. I have read through some of it, and it is unquestionably damaging to Hillary Clinton.

When I originally wrote the post below, I was working under the assumption that this would be the big political news story over the weekend, and all anyone would be talking about for at least the next two days and into the debate. With the Wikileaks dump we have another huge story, and it will undoubtably lessen the negative impact from the Trump audio. Trump got very lucky. I’ll have more over the weekend once I’ve had some time to read through more of the Wikileaks information and gather my thoughts.

Below is the original Trump post, published before I became aware of the Wikileaks release.

The just released audio of Trump’s comments from 2005 is devastating for his Presidential chances. This is not to say I think the election’s over, but I see this as the most damaging thing to emerge against him since he started his primary run last year.

It can’t be brushed off as political rhetoric to win the Republican primary, and some of the things he said will be deeply disturbing to many Americans.

While everyone thought the “October surprise” would be damaging to Clinton, the exact opposite seems to have happened. Unless someone has something equally devastating on the Clintons and is prepared to release it (not out of the question), Trump is in trouble.

Sunday’s debate now becomes do or die for him.

Trump’s response was pretty good, but unless he has audio of Bill on the golf course, probably not good enough.

“This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course — not even close,” Trump says in a statement. “I apologize if anyone was offended”

In Liberty,
Michael Krieger

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#5. To: Deckard (#0)

That's not nearly as bad as the author's write up made it out to be. If he were running for pope, then yes, I'd agree this video would be completely devastating.

Hillary were to make an issue out of this video at her own very great peril. The hypocrisy of it would be in itself quite damaging, given Bill's track record.

Even Trump's response is one that acknowledges responsibility, which is far more than Bill has ever done for his sexual assaults.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-10-08   1:17:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)

Hillary were to make an issue out of this video at her own very great peril. The hypocrisy of it would be in itself quite damaging, given Bill's track record.

Maybe so, but you know Hillary is going to use it and her fawning sycophants won't care that Bill has done much worse.

In fact I would guess that most of them don't believe any of the accusations against him.

The Clintons can do no wrong.

I'm wondering if Trump might have a case for illegal wiretapping here.

Deckard  posted on  2016-10-08   1:23:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

I'm wondering if Trump might have a case for illegal wiretapping here.

I was a little confused at first as we can hear Trump talking but all we see is a bus pulling up. Apparently someone went through the trouble of syncing the audio and video, which tells me it was someone who hates Trump.

But wiretapping is, or used to only apply to phone conversations. That is, tapping the "wire" in which conversation is being electronically transferred. But I think some have tried to make this apply to ordinary conversation.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-10-08   2:18:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

I was a little confused at first as we can hear Trump talking but all we see is a bus pulling up.

I think the first audio you hear is from inside the bus. You can hear what is being said but the video is taken from outside, and you see people leaving the bus but the audio continues from inside.

You can see the lapel mic on Trump's jacket when he exits, which means that the audio from inside was transmitted to the video camera outside.

Apparently someone went through the trouble of syncing the audio and video, which tells me it was someone who hates Trump.

The ambient noise changes when Trump steps outside, and that's when the audio syncs with the video.

Since this occurred in 2005, I doubt it was anyone who had a particular hatred of Trump, at the time he wasn't even on the political radar.

But wiretapping is, or used to only apply to phone conversations. That is, tapping the "wire" in which conversation is being electronically transferred. But I think some have tried to make this apply to ordinary conversation.

I think you're right - but I believe that even back then both parties had to consent to being recorded. In this case, I'm fairly certain Trump knew he was being recorded since he was wearing a mic.

Deckard  posted on  2016-10-08   3:17:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#8)

You can see the lapel mic on Trump's jacket when he exits, which means that the audio from inside was transmitted to the video camera outside.

Didn't occur to me it may have been transmitted, but that would eliminate any need for syncing. But if it was transmitted to the party waiting for him, then it sounds like it may have been somewhat of a setup, as he surely wouldn't have spoken about the woman that way if he knew she might have been listening.

Certainly on 2005 he wasn't in the political running but he was essentially a celebrity. And someone kept this recording stashed away for 11 years, and only now, exactly 1 month from election day, turns it over to the media.

I think you're right - but I believe that even back then both parties had to consent to being recorded.

Wiretapping is a state law, not federal, and whether consent is required from both parties or just one varies from state to state. That's my understanding, at least.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-10-08   3:44:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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