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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Opinions/Editorials See other Opinions/Editorials Articles Title: Trump game the tax system and its bad but Warren Buffet game the tax system and its funny! Source: [None] URL Source: http://none Published: Oct 3, 2016 Author: me Post Date: 2016-10-03 08:51:53 by Justified Keywords: None Views: 1667 Comments: 17 The progressives are whining how Trump has not paid taxes in 20 years but on the on hand they laughed when Buffet said his secretary pays more income tax then he does! Progressives are mental leeches that need to be squashed by Darwinism before they take down the whole human world! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Justified (#0) " Trump game the tax system " Shitlerly trying to make big deal out of this. Heard on Bill Cunningham show last nite that Shitlerly did the exact same thing. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Stoner  posted on  2016-10-03   9:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Stoner (#1) Well I consider it a sin if progressives do not pay 50% in taxes because thats what they want other people to pay! All the Clinton's have to do is demand more money from people like Goldman Sachs for a 15 minute speech behind closed doors. Justified  posted on  2016-10-03   9:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Justified (#0) Has anyone stopped to think how genius Dump managed to loose $900 billion? Do you really want this "genius" running the country? There will be a lot of business men who have been in the same position as Dump but they are not going to tell you about it. People like Dump donate to charity because they don't want to give money to government, it might be called tax avoidance but there can be no suggestion of tax evasion, there must be some big deductions available for running for president, afterall the salary is only $400K paraclete  posted on  2016-10-03   9:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: paraclete (#3) " how genius Dump managed to loose $900 billion? " $900 Billion ?? I think it was actually $900 million. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Stoner  posted on  2016-10-03   12:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Justified (#0) The progressives are whining how Trump has not paid taxes in 20 years but on the on hand they laughed when Buffet said his secretary pays more income tax then he does! He has paid taxes - property taxes. Lots of them. He hasn't paid INCOME taxes. Many people act as thought Income Taxes are the only tax that matters, but that's just blind foolishness. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-03   13:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: paraclete (#3) Has anyone stopped to think how genius Dump managed to loose $900 billion? If I were to hazard a guess, knowing tax law, he is a real estate investor. So he takes heavy depreciation allowances on all of the properties he owns. That generates a tax loss. He also probably contributes a lot to his private foundation (where he still controls the money). That generates a big tax loss. Because he's a big player, he can borrow lots of money. The interest on that money is tax deductible, as a cost, but the income it generates is offset by the depreciation allowance. Lots of games that can be played with the tax code. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-03   13:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Stoner (#4) what's a few zero's in the world of Dump, when afterall he is the biggest zero of all paraclete  posted on  2016-10-03   17:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: paraclete (#7) Trump followed the tax code and did NOTHING wrong. You're a salaryman who doesn't understand owning a business rather then collecting your government check. calcon  posted on  2016-10-03   19:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: paraclete, Justified (#3) Has anyone stopped to think how genius Dump managed to loose $900 billion? It's million, and the way it is done is to start with billions. You have to have it to lose it. To survive and thrive, you need still more pocket change hanging around. As for government salary, ask Bill and Hill. Went from bankrupt to $300 million. Whatever were their benefactors buying for all that loot? nolu chan  posted on  2016-10-03   20:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: calcon (#8) You're a salaryman who doesn't understand owning a business rather then collecting your government check You rush to judgement, you don't know me, among my other skills I am an accountant, and I know this, taxation is theft, a well run business doesn't make big tax losses, it makes profits and legally avoids taxation. My question was how this genius made losses, not whether he carried them forward for tax purposes paraclete  posted on  2016-10-03   21:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: paraclete (#3) Has anyone stopped to think how genius Dump managed to loose $900 billion? Warren Buffett has lost $2.6 billion on IBM. I believe he will have lost another $11 Billion on betting against BREXIT. To businessmen its just another day in the office. Win big means you will have lost big at times. But hey at least Buffetts secretary pays some income tax! ;) Justified  posted on  2016-10-03   22:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Vicomte13 (#5) He has paid taxes - property taxes. Lots of them. He hasn't paid INCOME taxes. Many people act as thought Income Taxes are the only tax that matters, but that's just blind foolishness. Any money you are forced to to pay to the government at any level is the same. Most of it goes to people sitting in big soft chairs and is the same as an income tax. rlk  posted on  2016-10-04   1:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Stoner (#1) Shitlerly trying to make big deal out of this. Heard on Bill Cunningham show last nite that Shitlerly did the exact same thing. The first thing they did was establish a charitable foundation that takes money from foreign countries and distributes it to their buddies here who those countries want to corrupt for their own purposes and call it charity. They get a rake-off for doing it. Has anyone ever seen a full accounting of what goes in and out of that foundation other than a few dollars to give it a superficial appearance of legitimacy? rlk  posted on  2016-10-04   1:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: rlk (#12) Any money you are forced to to pay to the government at any level is the same. Most of it goes to people sitting in big soft chairs and is the same as an income tax. That's right, but property tax does not show up on your federal income taxes. So, somebody illegally leaked part of Donald Trump's federal tax returns to the media, and Hillary Clinton, on cue, is pounding at Trump's legal use of tax write-offs. Trump pays a fortune every year in property taxes, though. Hillary won't have to address that, because it's not on Trump's federal return, as those are not federal taxes. Meanwhile, Hillary and her husband earn a quarter-billion dollars in a few years from being paid off for political influence. And where is the New York Times on that? Silent, of course. The Democrat New York AG shuts down Trump Foundation fundraising, but the Clinton Foundation, which has engaged in naked influence peddling, gets a bye from the federal justice department, even as Hillary gets a bye from the FBI. The corruption is overwhelming. The only way to rebuke it is to vote for Donald Trump. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-04   7:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Vicomte13 (#14) " The corruption is overwhelming. " Yes it is!! I have little faith that the nation can be saved. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Stoner  posted on  2016-10-04   10:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Stoner (#15) I have little faith that the nation can be saved. The nation isn't going anywhere. There's no foreign army that can invade and conquer: nuclear weapons preclude that. That means that the entity will endure. It may be a dark and terrible place - my hometown of Detroit was a vibrant and wealthy place when I was a kid. Look at it now - but it's still THERE, and America will still be here. Reforming it? If Hillary Clinton and the Democrats win this time, they will capture the Supreme Court, and with the White House and the Supreme Court, the FBI, CIA, IRS and Justice Department under their command, they will rule by fiat. Congress cannot stop anything, or even much slow it, if the Supreme Court rules the President's executive actions legal, and directs the Treasury to pay out thus and so. Control won't be able to be taken back at the ballot box, because those agencies of control will crush any opposition that begins to rise. If Hillary wins, it's over: we have one party rule with no peaceful means to change it. If Trump wins, the game is still alive, the ball is still in play, even if he bobbles it. The defeat administered to the Democrats and the crony capitalists will be massive. Trump SHOULD follow up with prosecutions, to actually go AT the power structure and start tearing it up by the roots, using prosecutorial power and courts, Congress and Executive Departments that HE will control. It all comes down to what the American people want. If they choose Hillary and the Democrats, and the future can be easily charted out. If they choose Trump, the future is cloudier, but has the possibility of greater brilliance than we currently have on tap. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-04   10:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Vicomte13 (#16) " I have little faith that the nation can be saved. " "The nation isn't going anywhere. " Vic, you have misunderstood what my meaning was. Yes, physically the nation / land will still be here. But not in the form that is desirable. As you said: " If Hillary wins, it's over: we have one party rule with no peaceful means to change it. " That is what I was referring to. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Stoner  posted on  2016-10-04   11:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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