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Title: War clouds are gathering. A hard rain is soon going to fall.
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Published: Sep 23, 2016
Author: Victor Davis Hanson
Post Date: 2016-09-23 09:21:52 by tpaine
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Views: 2005
Comments: 26

Townhall.com logo SEPTEMBER 23, 2016

The A Hard Rain is Going to Fall

Victor Davis Hanson 9/22/2016 12:01:00 AM - Victor Davis Hanson

This summer, President Obama was often golfing. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were promising to let the world be. The end of summer seemed sleepy, the world relatively calm.

The summer of 1914 in Europe also seemed quiet. But on July 28, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria was assassinated in Sarajevo by Gavrilo Princip with help from his accomplices, fellow Serbian separatists. That isolated act sparked World War I.

In the summer of 1939, most observers thought Adolf Hitler was finally through with his serial bullying. Appeasement supposedly had satiated his once enormous territorial appetites. But on Sept. 1, Nazi Germany unexpectedly invaded Poland and touched off World War II, which consumed some 60 million lives.

Wars often seem to come out of nowhere, as unlikely events ignite long-simmering disputes into global conflagrations.

The instigators often are weaker attackers who foolishly assume that more powerful nations wish peace at any cost, and so will not react to opportunistic aggression.

Unfortunately, our late-summer calm of 2016 has masked a lot of festering tensions that are now coming to a head -- largely due to disengagement by a supposedly tired United States.

In contrast, war, unlike individual states, does not sleep.

Russia has been massing troops on its border with Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin apparently believes that Europe is in utter disarray and assumes that President Obama remains most interested in apologizing to foreigners for the past evils of the United States. Putin is wagering that no tired Western power could or would stop his reabsorption of Ukraine -- or the Baltic states next. Who in hip Amsterdam cares what happens to faraway Kiev?

Iran swapped American hostages for cash. An Iranian missile narrowly missed a U.S. aircraft carrier not long ago. Iranians hijacked an American boat and buzzed our warships in the Persian Gulf. There are frequent promises from Tehran to destroy either Israel, America or both. So much for the peace dividend of the "Iran deal."

North Korea is more than just delusional. Recent nuclear tests and missile launches toward Japan suggest that North Korean strongman Kim Jong-un actually believes that he could win a war -- and thereby gain even larger concessions from the West and from his Asian neighbors.

Radical Islamists likewise seem emboldened to try more attacks on the premise that Western nations will hardly respond with overwhelming power. The past weekend brought pipe bombings in Manhattan and New Jersey as well as a mass stabbing in a Minnesota mall -- and American frustration.

Europe and the United States have been bewildered by huge numbers of largely young male migrants from the war-torn Middle East. Political correctness has paralyzed Western leaders from even articulating the threat, much less replying to it.

Instead, the American government appears more concerned with shutting down the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, ensuring that no administration official utters the words "Islamic terror," and issuing warnings to Americans not to lash out due to their supposedly innate prejudices.

Aggressors are also encouraged by vast cutbacks in the U.S. defense budget. The lame-duck Obama presidency, lead-from- behind policies and a culturally and racially divided America reflect voter weariness with overseas commitments.

It would be a mistake to assume that war is impossible because it logically benefits no one, or is outdated in our sophisticated 21st century, or would be insane in a world of nuclear weapons.

Human nature is unchanging and remains irrational. Evil is eternal. Unfortunately, appeasement is often seen by thugs not as magnanimity to be reciprocated but as timidity to be exploited.

Someone soon will have to tell the North Koreans that a stable world order cannot endure its frequent missile launches and nuclear detonations.

Someone could remind Putin that the former Soviet republics have a right to self-determination.

Someone might inform the Chinese that no one can plop down artificial islands and military bases to control commercial sea lanes.

Someone might make it clear to radical Islamic terrorists that there is a limit to Western patience with their chronic bombing, murdering and destruction.

The problem is that there is no other "someone" (especially not the United Nations or the European Union) with the requisite power and authority except the United States. But for a long time America has done more than its fair share of international policing -- and its people are tired of costly dragon-slaying abroad.

The result is that at this late date, the tough medicine of restoring long-term deterrence is as almost as dangerous as the disease of continual short-term appeasement.

Obama apparently assumes he can leave office as a peacemaker before his appeased chickens come home to roost in violent fashion. He has assured us that the world has never been calmer and quieter.

Others said the same thing in the last calm summer weeks of 1914 and 1939.

War clouds are gathering. A hard rain is soon going to fall.

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#2. To: tpaine (#0)

Putin is wagering that no tired Western power could or would stop his reabsorption of Ukraine -- or the Baltic states next.

This is stupid and untrue.

Russia is not going to invade the Baltic States and start World War III - they're part of NATO and they know that.

Nor is Russia going to invade the Ukraine. They don't WANT the Ukraine with all of the troubles that come with it. They got what they needed: the Crimea, so they have their naval base back. They want a stable ally in Kiev, not what is there now. They are not going to back down to a US engineered coup, but they're not going to invade either. What they are going to do is what Reagan did to the Soviets: move some troops around and cause the other side (this time it's us) to hyperventilate and spend money we don't have on a ridiculous overbuild.

The Baltic States are behind the NATO nuclear shield. The Russians are never going there. The Ukraine is a mess, and the Russians aren't going there either. Nor are they going to let the Ukraine stabilize as a pro- Western country. They will maintain the instability there until the West is exhausted, then the Ukrainians will return to a neutral or pro-Russian government, and the Russians will have won the point.

That's all that is happening. All of the rest of the hyperbole is the rantings of a boy who is still playing Risk, with words, and who is a big fan of the military-industrial complex, because tensions mean big contracts and big government money to big arms manufacturers.

He's within that complex, a writer for it, and he believes his own simple- minded rhetoric because it works within his world, and a world favorable to endless expenditure on arms that will never be used.

The time has come to simply ignore people like this. If it were 1939 today, Hitler would have never invaded Poland, because if he did, France and Britain would have nuked Berlin and the Ruhr, and the war would have been over in a day with the vaporization of Germany's government and industrial base.

That's why Putin will never, ever, under any circumstances, invade the Baltic States. It is also why we will never, ever, under any circumstances, invade the Crimea. Nuclear weapons render conventional warfare against the homeland of a nuked-up adversary obsolete.

It's why Japan and Taiwan and South Korea should build their own nuclear weapons.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-09-23   9:32:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2) (Edited)

Hanson, --- (rants like) a boy who is still playing Risk, with words, and who is a big fan of the military- industrial complex, because tensions mean big contracts and big government money to big arms manufacturers.

He's within that complex, a writer for it, and he believes his own simple- minded rhetoric because it works within his world, and a world favorable to endless expenditure on arms that will never be used.

The time has come to simply ignore people like this.

He writes: -- "Putin is wagering that no tired Western power could or would stop his reabsorption of Ukraine -- or the Baltic states next."

This is stupid and untrue.

You're one of the few that infers that Putin is 'wise and truthful'.

tpaine  posted on  2016-09-23   9:47:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tpaine (#3)

You're one of the few that infers that Putin is 'wise and truthful'.

He doesn't have to be wise and truthful. He just have to not be a suicidal moron. Attack the Baltic States, and you've attacked NATO and are going to end up in a nuclear war with the United States. STALIN didn't dare get into a nuclear war with the USA. Putin is less violent and crazy than Stalin.

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#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4) (Edited)

Attack the Baltic States, and you've attacked NATO and are going to end up in a nuclear war with the United States.

Attack the Baltic States, -- with conventional weapons, and odds are pretty good that NATO and the United States will respond in kind. --- At best.

We could have that 'nice little war', confined to those States, and 'solve' a lot of financial problems

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#6. To: tpaine (#5)

Attack the Baltic States, -- with conventional weapons, and odds are pretty good that NATO and the United States will respond in kind. --- At best.

We could have that 'nice little war', confined to those States, and 'solve' a lot of financial problems

Nothing like that can happen. The Russians are not going to attack NATO. Wage war and lose, and your government falls. The Soviet Union ultimately failed because they lost in Afghanistan, and their veneer of invincibility was broken. They got a lot of their own people killed and maimed, and they lost. They pulled out in defeat in 1989. And within a year and a half, the USSR was dead - not a mere coincidence.

Leaders who lose wars, lose the confidence of their people. Nixon withdrew from Vietnam - he was driven from office. Ford didn't intervene as Vietnam was overrun, cementing our defeat. He was not re-elected.

Putin is self-interested. Start a war with Europe, and Russia has to win it, or he falls. Russia cannot win a conventional war with the West. The West massively outnumbers them, outguns them, has vastly greater economic resources. Russia would lose the war, and Putin would lose his throne.

Soviet, and Russian, doctrine never made a distinction between conventional and nuclear warfare. Standard Russian doctrine for high-intensity warfare is the integration of nuclear, chemical and biological warfare into front line operations. The Russians CAN defeat NATO if they use NBC weapons, and WILL defeat NATO unless NATO uses them in response.

Any war between Russia and NATO will be a nuclear war. Russian doctrine envisions no less. We're certainly not going to attack Russia, which means that Putin would have to consciously decide to launch a nuclear war against the West.

He's hard and cautious, not crazy. Stalin might have. Putin? Never. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous and a waste of money to even worry about it. Russia attacks NATO, that means Russia goes nuclear. We reply with nukes, and they reply with nukes. World over.

It's not going to happen, and it's silly to think it will. The USSR and the USA managed to avoid nuclear war because Russians and Americans are not crazy. Putin's a lot less evil than Stalin or Breshnev. All of this European War fantasy is cartoon literature written by boys in the West who never grew past playing Risk, and it is cynically manipulated by the military-industrial complex to generate massive unnecessary expenditures on conventional warfare equipment for Europe that will only be used in the last day or two before the world ends.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-09-23   11:05:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Someone soon will have to tell the North Koreans that a stable world order cannot endure its frequent missile launches and nuclear detonations.

Someone might inform the Chinese that no one can plop down artificial islands and military bases to control commercial sea lanes.

Someone might make it clear to radical Islamic terrorists that there is a limit to Western patience with their chronic bombing, murdering and destruction.

Are you that someone?

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#14. To: tpaine (#8)

Are you that someone?

No, because China and Islam are LEGITIMATE threats that we DO have to prepared to fight.

Expending energy and treasure preparing to fight war with the Russians in Europe is a waste of hundreds of billions of dollars. Nukes do the trick there, on both sides.

China is a different animal.

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