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Title: 9/11 Anniversary: Government Hid and Destroyed 9/11 Evidence
Source: Washingtons Blog
URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016 ... id-destroyed-911-evidence.html
Published: Sep 9, 2016
Author: Washingtons Blog
Post Date: 2016-09-09 20:04:58 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 15137
Comments: 41

Presumption of a Cover-Up …

Judges and lawyers know that – if someone intentionally destroys evidence – he’s probably trying to hide his crime. American law has long recognized that destruction of evidence raises a presumption of guilt for the person who destroyed the evidence.

So what does it mean when the US government intentionally destroyed massive amounts of evidence related to 9/11?

Judge and Prosecutor Destroy Evidence

For example, it was revealed in May that the judge overseeing the trial of surviving 9/11 suspects conspired with the prosecution to destroy evidence relevant to a key suspect’s defense. And see this.

(The Defense Department has also farmed out most of the work of both prosecuting and defending the surviving 9/11 suspects to the same private company. And the heads of the military tribunal prosecuting the 9/11 suspects said that the trials must be rigged so that there are no acquittals.)

Destruction of Videotapes

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.


And:

Daniel Marcus, a law professor at American University who served as general counsel for the Sept. 11 commission and was involved in the discussions about interviews with Al Qaeda leaders, said he had heard nothing about any tapes being destroyed.

If tapes were destroyed, he said, “it’s a big deal, it’s a very big deal,” because it could amount to obstruction of justice to withhold evidence being sought in criminal or fact-finding investigations.

Destruction of Air Traffic Control Tapes

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times.

Pentagon Fibs

The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements.

Soviet-Style “Minders”

The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses (and see this).

In other words, the minders obstructed witnesses from openly and candidly talking about what they knew.

Undermining Investigation

President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of personally requesting that congress limit all 9/11 investigation solely to “intelligence failures.”

The administration also opposed the creation of a 9/11 commission. Once it was forced (by pressure from widows of 9-11 victims) to allow a commission to be formed, the administration appointed as executive director an administration insider, whose area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of “public myths” thought to be true, even if not actually true, who was involved in pre-9/11 intelligence briefings, and who was one of the key architects of the “pre-emptive war” doctrine. This executive director, who controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then limited the scope of the Commission’s inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see this and this).

The administration then starved the commission of funds. The government spent $175 million – over $300 million in today’s dollars – investigating the Challenger space shuttle disaster. It spent $152 million on the the Columbia disaster investigation. It spent $30 million investigating the Monica Lewinsky scandal. But the government only authorized $15 million for the 9/11 Commission.

The government also failed to provide crucial documents to the 9/11 investigators. And see this.

The government refused to share much information with the Commission, refused to force high-level officials to testify under oath, and allowed Bush and Cheney to be questioned jointly.

Moreover, as reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

The 9-11 Commission took this warning to heart, and refused to examine virtually any evidence which contradicted the administration’s official version of events. As stated by the State Department’s Coordinator for Counterterrorism – who was the point man for the U.S. government’s international counterterrorism policy in the first term of the Bush administration – “there were things the [9/11] commissions wanted to know about and things they didn’t want to know about.

Censorship

An FBI whistleblower named Sibel Edmonds has been deemed credible by the Department of Justice’s Inspector General, several senators (free subscription required), and a coalition of prominent conservative and liberal groups.

The ACLU described Edmonds as:

The most gagged person in the history of the United States of America.

Famed Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg says that Edmonds possesses information “far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers”. He also says that the White House has ordered the press not to cover Edmonds:

I am confident that there is conversation inside the Government as to ‘How do we deal with Sibel [Edmonds]?

The first line of defense is to ensure that she doesn’t get into the media. I think any outlet that thought of using her materials would go to to the government and they would be told “don’t touch this . . . .”

And the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to prosecute and harass whistleblowers and journalists who write stories questioning government narratives.  (And see this and this.)

Black Boxes

The FBI long ago found and analyzed the “black box” recorders from the airplanes which hit the Twin Towers, but has consistently denied that they were ever found. And see this.

Saudi Role

Investigation into Saudi government aid to 9/11 conspirators was also obstructed.

For example, Philip Shenon – the 20-year New York Times reporter who wrote a book on the 9/11 Commission – reports:

The [911] commissioner said the renewed public debate could force a spotlight on a mostly unknown chapter of the history of the 9/11 commission: behind closed doors, members of the panel’s staff fiercely protested the way the material about the Saudis was presented in the final report, saying it underplayed or ignored evidence that Saudi officials – especially at lower levels of the government – were part of an al-Qaida support network that had been tasked to assist the hijackers after they arrived in the US.In fact, there were repeated showdowns, especially over the Saudis, between the staff and the commission’s hard-charging executive director, University of Virginia historian Philip Zelikow, who joined the Bush administration as a senior adviser to the secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, after leaving the commission. The staff included experienced investigators from the FBI, the Department of Justice and the CIA, as well as the congressional staffer who was the principal author of the 28 pages.

Zelikow fired a staffer, who had repeatedly protested over limitations on the Saudi investigation, after she obtained a copy of the 28 pages outside of official channels. Other staffers described an angry scene late one night, near the end of the investigation, when two investigators who focused on the Saudi allegations were forced to rush back to the commission’s offices after midnight after learning to their astonishment that some of the most compelling evidence about a Saudi tie to 9/11 was being edited out of the report or was being pushed to tiny, barely readable footnotes and endnotes. The staff protests were mostly overruled.

Indeed, an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House.

As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

Letting Terrorists Go Free

A former FBI translator who Senators Leahy and Grassley, among others, have claimed is credible, and who the administration has gagged for years without any logical basis — has stated that “this administration knowingly and intentionally let many directly or indirectly involved in that terrorist act [September 11th] go free – untouched and uninvestigated”?

Destruction of Physical Evidence

The former head of fire science and engineering for the agency responsible for finding out why the Twin Towers and World Trade Center 7 collapsed on 9/11 (the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology) – who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, with a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering – wrote that evidence necessary to determine the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Centers was being destroyed. And see this.

In addition, the official investigators themselves were largely denied access to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such basic information as the blueprints for the World Trade Center.

The government has also refused to release the computer models showing how the trade centers fell, making it impossible for anyone to double-check its assumptions.

Whether you believe the Twin Towers and World Trade Center building 7 were brought down with explosives or by airplanes and fires, destroying evidence prevented engineers and scientists from figuring out what went wrong … to prevent skyscrapers from collapsing in the future.

In addition, the government has refused to release many of the videos and photographs taken on 9/11 in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) inquiries. And lawyers and researchers who have reviewed videos produced by the government in response to FOIA requests have told Washington’s Blog that the government produced intentionally degraded versions which make it impossible to see or hear details.

9/11 Commissioners Disgusted … and Call For a New Investigation

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

  • The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”
  • The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
  • The Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 – Bob Graham – and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “PERMANENT 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it
  • 9/11 Commissioner John Lehman says that a new investigation should be “vigorously pursued

Planting False Evidence

Planting false evidence is another act which creates presumption of guilt.

The type of torture used by the U.S. on alleged surviving 9/11 co-conspirators is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating FALSE confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

According to NBC News:

  • Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured
  • At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured”
  • One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
  • The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

Pulitzer-prize winning reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the Iraq torture and Vietnam massacre stories – writes:

Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists’ identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, “Whatever trail was left was left deliberately — for the F.B.I. to chase“.

But don’t spend too much time thinking about it … after all, your government would never lie to you.

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#2. To: jeremiad (#1)

My government would never lie to me. Deckard; after he proves that the government has lied over and over.

That sentiment (the government would never lie to me) seems to be held by many of the posters who reside here at LF, and in fact, it seems the general public as well.

I don't know what it's going to take to wake up the sheeple who still believe the official government narrative about 9/11 - it appears that the propaganda spewed out by the government-controlled mainstream media is having the desired effect.

I guess I'll just keep posting articles like this, even if you are the only one who responds - thank you.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   12:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin, Vinny (#0)

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

....your government would never lie to you.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   12:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#2)

... even if you are the only one who responds ...

Just as I said, the "truther movement" is practically dead and just waiting for burial.

You just keep on...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   13:12:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4) (Edited)

Just keep bleating - ....your government would never lie to you.

Any thoughts on why they did this?

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   13:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#3)

....your government would never lie to you.

Of course, the government lies as does the "truther movement."

Over the years it became increasingly evident that the “truther movement” is a thoroughly controlled and infiltrated “clan” whose sole purpose is suppressing truth and not spreading it. Yet, you and your ilk continue to fail year after year to represent a "point of focus” away from facts and try to continually evolve them into some kind of “9/11 mystery.”

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   13:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#5)

Any thoughts on why they did this?

Yea….one.

BULLSHIT!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   13:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#6)

Of course, the government lies as does the "truther movement."

In this article, please point out where the "truther movement" has lied.

On the other hand -

The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements.

Do you think officials at the Pentagon and others who lied to the 9/11 Commission should be criminally charged?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   13:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#7)

Are You a Mind-Controlled CIA Stooge?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   13:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#9)

Nope, but you sure are a mind-controlled "truther movement" echo chamber stooge.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   13:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#8)

Do you think officials at the Pentagon and others who lied to the 9/11 Commission should be criminally charged?

When it is proven they lied, then they should be charged.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   13:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#10)

The Tide is Turning: The Official Story Is Now The Conspiracy Theory

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   15:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#6)

Over the years it became increasingly evident that the “truther movement” is a thoroughly controlled and infiltrated “clan” whose sole purpose is suppressing truth and not spreading it.

What a steaming crock.

Yes, there have been attempts (most likely by government agents) to derail discussion of the truth (much in the same way you do here) but it has been obvious that the disinformationalists are quickly weeded out.

Suppressing the truth?

I'll leave that to you and the myriad of fed.gov assets who you admire so much.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   15:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard, Language Alert (#3)

KooK, about those x-ray beams that you claim brought down the Twin Towers....

Hit Me

Vinny  posted on  2016-09-10   18:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vinny (#14)

about those x-ray beams that you claim brought down the Twin Towers....

I don't see that claim made anywhere in the article. But thanks for bumping the thread with your bovine bleating.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   19:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#15)

KooK, about the material you post; reading anything beyond the title is a waste of time. Just because you're non compos mentis doesn't mean we should stoop to your level. Now scat psycho and take your comic book conspiracies with you!

Vinny  posted on  2016-09-10   19:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Vinny (#16)

reading anything beyond the title is a waste of time

Yeah, that figures. Just ignore the facts, ignore the testimony of the actual commissioners of the 9/11 Investigation, ignore the thousand of architects, engineers, pilots - ignore all of the experts in their respective fields who have concluded that the official narrative spewed by the government is a blatant fairy-tale.

*****

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

  • The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”
  • The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

    Yeah - they must all be 'kooks".

    Don't spend too much time thinking about it … after all, your government would never lie to you.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   20:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vinny (#16)

KooK, about the material you post; reading anything beyond the title is a waste of time.

Even reading the titles of the articles he posts is a total waste of time.

Garbage....just pure garbage.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   20:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin, Vinny (#18)

The fed-gov brainwashed sheep here used to be much more intelligent.

At least some of them tried to debunk the factual claims made by qualified experts.

“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.”
- Frantz Fanon

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-10   21:16:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#19)

A qualified expert and a truther....best example of a oxymoron ever.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-10   22:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin, Vinny (#20)

....best example of a oxymoron ever.

What's even more bizarre is you calling yourself a "truthseeker.

A qualified expert and a truther ...

Tell it to these experts.

 Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Pilots and Aviation Professionals Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Medical Professionals Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Why do you hate the families of those who survived and those who lost loved ones on 9/11?

9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-11   0:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard, spuds, sarge, gatlin, canary club (#21)

Just a reminder ... Kanary Klub Klan members are not "truthseekers." They are argumentative old men that believe in some sort of rigid government control about their lives so as to receive a government stipend on a monthly basis to pay their personal bills.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-09-11   1:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

So says a hypocrite who leeches a paycheck derived from government contracts.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   3:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#21)

I am telling you that a qualified expert and a truther is the best example of a oxymoron ever.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   3:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#24)

I am telling you

Nobody gives a flying fuck about anything you have to say besides the other submissive, boot-licking statist pricks who infest this forum, you pompous, authority-worshiping asshole.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-11   3:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard (#25)

Quit lying to yourself. You obviously care since you continually read the posts where I chastise you and reply so quickly to them. You stay up nights waiting to read my comments.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   3:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin (#26) (Edited)

posts where I chastise you

Arrogant, self-righteous douche-nozzle.

Do the world a favor and kill yourself you submissive little twat.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-11   3:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#17)

Just ignore the facts

KooK, in your current mental state you wouldn't know a fact from a Fig Newton. I not only ignore your "facts" but I also ignore you, so stop pinging me to your Flash Gordon conspiracies, OK?

Vinny  posted on  2016-09-11   4:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard (#27)

You are nothing but a brain-damaged piece of white trash spinning yarns.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   4:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#25)

Fifteen years later you conspiracy theorists still live your lonely lives as truthers continuing to look for the big break….you are a miserable lot.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   4:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vinny (#28)

Get back to me when you finish the 8th grade, simpleton.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-11   5:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, Vinny (#30)

I gotta feel sorry for you two drooling simpletons

Don't forget - the government would never lie to you.

Wadda couple of maroons!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-11   5:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard, Vinny (#32)

...maroons...

...maroons?

***SNICKER***

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-11   6:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#33)

Roscoe  posted on  2016-09-11   6:26:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#32)

Wadda couple of maroons!

And here I thought you were a KooK when all along your problem is illiteracy.

Vinny  posted on  2016-09-14   8:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Vinny, Gatlin (#35)

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-14   9:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vinny, Deckard (#35)

Wadda couple of maroons!

And here I thought you were a KooK when all along your problem is illiteracy.

His attempt to cover up is pathetic.

He is such a moron.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-14   12:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin, Vinny (#37)

His attempt to cover up is pathetic.

Not covering up anything you simplistic self-righteous prick.

Not my fault that you and the other short-bus rider never saw Bugs Bunny.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-14   12:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#38)

Not my fault that you and the other short-bus rider never saw Bugs Bunny.

So now the illiterate KooK posts as if he's Bugs Bunny?

Tell us again how a mini nuke, planted by the Mossad, brought down the towers.

K?

Vinny  posted on  2016-09-14   14:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Vinny (#39)

So now the illiterate KooK posts as if he's Bugs Bunny?

I figured I had to, you know - dumb it down for you two in-breds.

Tell us again how a mini nuke, planted by the Mossad, brought down the towers.

This article makes no such claim.

HOW ABOUT DEALING IN FACTS?

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times.

***

Who would do that, and why?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-14   15:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Vinny, Gatlin (#39)

The Most Outrageous 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.

Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-14   19:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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