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Title: US court upholds ban on gun sales to marijuana card holders
Source: From The Trenches/ABC
URL Source: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldrepo ... -marijuana-card-holders/169305
Published: Sep 1, 2016
Author: ABC News
Post Date: 2016-09-01 10:13:01 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 29014
Comments: 88

A federal government ban on the sale of guns to medical marijuana card holders does not violate the Second Amendment, a federal appeals court said Wednesday.

The ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals applies to the nine Western states that fall under the court’s jurisdiction, including California, Washington and Oregon.  

It came in a lawsuit filed by S. Rowan Wilson, a Nevada woman who said she tried to buy a firearm for self-defense in 2011 after obtaining a medical marijuana card. The gun store refused, citing the federal rule banning the sale of firearms to illegal drug users.

Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has told gun sellers they can assume a person with a medical marijuana card uses the drug.

The 9th Circuit in its 3-0 decision said Congress reasonably concluded that marijuana and other drug use “raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated.”

The court also concluded that it’s reasonable for federal regulators to assume a medical marijuana card holder was more likely to use the drug.

Wilson’s attorney, Chaz Rainey, said there needs to be more consistency in the application of the Second Amendment. He planned to appeal.

“We live in a world where having a medical marijuana card is enough to say you don’t get a gun, but if you’re on the no fly list your constitutional right is still protected,” he said.

The 9th Circuit also rejected other constitutional challenges to the ban that were raised by Wilson, including her argument that her gun rights were being stripped without due process.

Paul Armentano, deputy director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said the idea that marijuana users were more prone to violence is a fallacy.

“Responsible adults who use cannabis in a manner that is compliant with the laws of their states ought to receive the same legal rights and protections as other citizens,” he said.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

And this is from the 9th Circuit. Never thought they'd get it right.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-09-01   10:17:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite, tpaine, ConservingFreedom (#1)

And this is from the 9th Circuit. Never thought they'd get it right.

Figures that you'd side with a liberal court.

No doubt you are in favor of infringing on the second amendment rights of alcohol users as well, or maybe anyone who has a prescription for any kind of pharmaceutical pain medications.

Deckard  posted on  2016-09-01   10:44:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

"No doubt you are in favor of infringing on the second amendment rights of alcohol users as well, or maybe anyone who has a prescription for any kind of pharmaceutical pain medications."

The federal law bans the sale of firearms to illegal drug users. It says nothing about alcohol or prescription drugs.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-09-01   11:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#3)

The federal law bans the sale of firearms to illegal drug users. It says nothing about alcohol or prescription drugs.

But the court did: 'The 9th Circuit in its 3-0 decision said Congress reasonably concluded that marijuana and other drug use “raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated.”'

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-09-01   11:28:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ConservingFreedom, misterwhite, Deckard (#4)

The federal law bans the sale of firearms to illegal drug users. It says nothing about alcohol or prescription drugs.

But the court did: 'The 9th Circuit in its 3-0 decision said Congress reasonably concluded that marijuana and other drug use “raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated.”'

I don’t find that quote in the 9th CoA 29-page decision:

S. ROWAN WILSON, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. LORETTA E. LYNCH, Attorney General; BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES; B. TODD JONES, as Acting Director of U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; ARTHUR HERBERT, as Assistant Director of U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Defendants- Appellees.

Perhaps the author used quotation marks to convey emphasis.

In any case, the 9th CoA held that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of unlawful drug users to bear arms.

WILSON V. LYNCH SUMMARY

Civil Rights The panel affirmed the district court’s dismissal of a complaint challenging the federal statutes, regulations, and guidance that prevented plaintiff from buying a gun because she possesses a Nevada medical marijuana registry card.

The panel preliminarily held that plaintiff lacked standing to challenge 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3), which criminalizes possession or receipt of a firearm by an unlawful drug user or a person addicted to a controlled substance. Plaintiff had not alleged that she was an unlawful drug user or that she was addicted to any controlled substance. Nor had she alleged that she possessed or received a firearm. The panel further held that plaintiff’s remaining claims were not moot because she represented that she has routinely renewed her registry card.

The panel held that plaintiff’s Second Amendment claims did not fall within the direct scope of United States v. Dugan, 657 F.3d 998 (9th Cir. 2011), which held that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of unlawful drug users to bear arms. Taking plaintiff’s allegations in her first amended complaint as true – that she chose not to use medical marijuana – the panel concluded that plaintiff was not actually an unlawful drug user.

The panel held that 18 U.S.C. § 922(d)(3), 27 C.F.R. § 478.11, and the Open Letter issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to federal firearms licensees, which prevented plaintiff from purchasing a firearm, directly burdened plaintiff’s core Second Amendment right to possess a firearm. Applying intermediate scrutiny, the panel nevertheless held that the fit between the challenged provisions and the Government’s substantial interest of violence prevention was reasonable, and therefore the district court did not err by dismissing the Second Amendment claim.

The panel rejected plaintiff’s claims that the challenged laws and Open Letter violated the First Amendment. The panel held that any burden the Government’s anti-marijuana and anti-gun-violence efforts placed on plaintiff’s expressive conduct was incidental, and that the Open Letter survived intermediate scrutiny.

The panel held that the challenged laws and Open Letter neither violated plaintiff’s procedural due process rights protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment nor violated the Equal Protection Clause as incorporated into the Fifth Amendment. Plaintiff did not have a constitutionally protected liberty interest in simultaneously 4 WILSON V. LYNCH holding a registry card and purchasing a firearm, nor was she a part of suspect or quasi-suspect class.

Finally, rejecting the claim brought under the Administrative Procedure Act, the panel agreed with the district court that the Open Letter was a textbook interpretative rule and that it was exempt from the Act’s notice-and-comment procedures.

The suit and the decision was all about unlawful drug users. It was not about lawful and legal alcohol and prescription drug users.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-09-01   12:53:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin, misterwhite, Deckard (#8)

I don’t find that quote in the 9th CoA 29-page decision

I found it in about 5 seconds, on page 17:

"Cong ress’s reasonable conclusion that the use of such drugs raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated."

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-09-01   13:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: ConservingFreedom (#11)

The federal law bans the sale of firearms to illegal drug users. It says nothing about alcohol or prescription drugs.

But the court did: 'The 9th Circuit in its 3-0 decision said Congress reasonably concluded that marijuana and other drug use “raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated.”'

Nope, the court did not. The decision states nothing about alcohol or prescription drugs. It only addresses “marijuana” users and other “illegal drug” users. Alcohol and prescription drugs are not “illegal drugs.

Read it again:

It may be argued that medical marijuana users are less likely to commit violent crimes, as they often suffer from debilitating illnesses, for which marijuana may be an effective palliative. They also may be less likely than other illegal drug users to interact with law enforcement officers or make purchases through illicit channels. But those hypotheses are not sufficient to overcome Congress’s reasonable conclusion that the use of such drugs raises the risk of irrational or unpredictable behavior with which gun use should not be associated.

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