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Title: Something Different: Really Good Movies That Are Mostly Depressing In Nature
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Published: Aug 20, 2016
Author: movies
Post Date: 2016-08-20 09:25:27 by no gnu taxes
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I'll start with 3: Owning Mahoney
Straight Time
Glen Garry/Glen Ross
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#4. To: Y'all (#0)
Dr. Strangelove
Along those same lines -
Link to the movie: Fail Safe. The bombers in the film are portrayed using the Convair B-58 Hustler except during the final attack on Moscow, when the plane briefly appears as a North American F- 86 Sabre Jet instead. Also some on-board footage of an X-15 experimental plane launch is used to depict the contrail of the missiles fired at the last attempt to stop the bomber. Nice night shots of B-58 Hustlers doing a Minimum Interval Take Off (MITO) at 16:09 into the movie. The sequence that shows the B-58 bombers taking off from Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage, Alaska, is incorrect. There were never at any time any SAC bases in Alaska, that's all Alaskan Air Command in that area.The B-58 Hustlers were initially stationed at Carswell AFB, Texas, when I joined the program in 1960. They were moved to Little Rock AFB, Arkansas, and Grissom AFB Indiana, when they were declared combat ready. Moreover, the B-58 "Hustler" has a combat radius of only 1,740 miles, not close to the 4,000 miles each way from Alaska to Moscow. The B-58 bombers in real life had to refuel on the way to the targets. The interior shots of the bombers, Convair B-58 Hustlers actually were shot inside of a commercial airline simulator then under repair at a a New York airport. The three crew members sit within feet of each other, in an open cockpit layout. In an actual B-58, the world's first supersonic bomber (and capable of twice the speed of sound), the three-man crew of pilot, bombardier/navigator, and defense systems specialist were separated by banks of equipment, and had no physical contact with one another. To make survivable ejection possible on such a high-speed aircraft, each compartment was specifically designed as wholly contained clam-shell "pod" that would disengage intact if the need arose. As a result, the crew had to rely on an internal telecommunications system to talk, or a string-and-pulley system that ran along the cabin wall to exchange notes if those systems failed. Footnote: On December 8, 1964, at Bunker Hill Air Force Base, Indiana, a B-58 carrying five nuclear weapons skidded off the taxiway during an Operational Readiness Exercise (ORI) and struck an electrical manhole box and caught fire. One crewman was killed, and portions of all five weapons burned. The contamination released by the damaged nuclear weapons was contained in the immediate area of the crash and immediately disposed of.
I was on the end of the runway in the Azores, early '58, when a flight of Hustlers were taking off. VERY impressive machine. You were a crew member?
The B-58 Hustler became operational under the Strategic Air Command in 1960. I was transferred to Carswell AFB in Texas in 1960 to join the program as a Defensive Systems Operator (DSO – 3rd Station). I was in the B-58 program for ten years. I was transferred to Grissom AFB in Indiana when the second wing formed. I spent five years on a Select Combat Crew, three years as the DSO Chief Instructor in the Combat Crew Training School and my final two years as the DSO Wing Staff Officer. I crewed on the last B-58 flight in history. I believe I logged more hours in the B-58 than anyone with 1650 hours, many at Mach 2.0 during each flight. You will no doubt recognize the pilot in the video linked below. He gives an excellent narrative about the B-58. The Convair B-58 "Hustler" Supersonic Bomber - Champion of Champions (1962).
#13. To: Gatlin (#11)
When the B-58 went supersonic, did the pilot have to reverse the controls to avoid crashing?
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#8. To: tpaine (#4)
Dr. Strangelove
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
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#10. To: Gatlin (#9)
The B-58 Hustlers were initially stationed at Carswell AFB, Texas, when I joined the program in 1960.
#11. To: tpaine (#10)
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