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Title: AZ: Woman Openly Carrying Glock Threatened by Armed Felon; She Kills Him
Source: gunwatch.blogspot.com
URL Source: https://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/ ... man-openly-carrying-glock.html
Published: Aug 18, 2016
Author: Dean Weingarten
Post Date: 2016-08-18 13:06:57 by Stoner
Keywords: None
Views: 1664
Comments: 7

A woman openly carrying a Glock was threatened by an armed felon in the early morning hours of 1 August, 2016. She was leaving the gas station with a drink in her hand and the Glock on her hip. Her daughter would be turning three in about a week. From abc15.com:

Miracle said she was leaving the Circle K near 59th Avenue and Camelback Road with her family early Monday morning when the suspect, Frank Taylor , tried to bum a cigarette. She told him that she didn’t have one, and then seconds later, Miracle said, she could feel the barrel of the gun against her skin.

“He put the gun up to my neck and said, ‘It’s loaded, don’t move,’” Miracle said. ”I think he thought, ‘She’s a little girl. Maybe she doesn’t know how to use her weapon.’”

Miracle said, “I dropped my soda, released my gun from my holster and cocked it. I shot him and ran in the opposite direction."

Link to video of interview with Carolann Miracle

Carolann's father was a Marine. He taught her well. The pistol appears to be a Glock model 17 or 22, with night sights.

There are several things to note about this encounter. Many elements of the story are items often found in armed robberies/muggings.

First is the approach. It is common for robbers/muggers to use a pretext to close the distance and distract the victim. Asking for a cigarret is a common pretext. So is asking for the time.

Second is picking what appeared to be weak prey. Carolann is a small woman, 4'11, 85 pounds. It is common for human predators to pick on weaker prey. Maybe he did not see the Glock on her hip. It was dark. She was holding a drink from the gas station, probably in her right hand. If she was wearing a dark top, as she was in the video, the Glock would not have presented much contrast. While open carriers tend to be very aware of their defensive firearm, many people never notice it.

Carolann did many things right. The first was to instantly recognize the threat. Many become mired in the thought that "this cannot be happening"; "this is not real". People who carry are much less likely to do that because they have considered the possibility of attack and prepared for it.

She did the right thing when she dropped her drink. Dropping things to access your weapon or to fight better is not an instinctive reaction. Many people instinctively hang on to useless things that impede their ability to fight. I taught my students to practice dropping things at the beginning of a fight so that they could draw their firearm, and fight more effectively.

She did the right thing when she fled the area in the opposite direction from the way the attacker was going. Many attacks, perhaps 50%, involve an accomplice. She purposefully made the decision, moved to safety, then called the police.

Carolann's response is common. She did not want to kill her attacker. It was a consequence of what he forced her to do. She would have preferred that it never happened.

There were witnesses and surveillance video, both of which backed up her story.

Carolann says she "cocked it". I suspect she was carrying Israeli style, in condition 3, with an empty chamber. If you practice pulling and releasing the slide as you draw, it can be fairly fast.

What did not happen.

Carolann was openly carrying. She was accosted by a violent, armed felon. He did not simply "shoot her first" as many who oppose open carry claim will happen. Even though he "had the drop" on her, she won the gun fight.

Action beats reaction. Dropping the drink likely gave her another second, as the felon probably thought "dropping drink" not "drawing gun".

It is a known gunfighter tactic that Louis L'Amore wrote about in one of his novels. In that case, the fictional character let a match burn down to his fingers from lighting a cigarette, thus conditioning his opponents to expect him to flick his hand away from the burn. Expecting that, they were surprised by the draw.

Maybe Carolann did not consciously make that decision; but the effect was similar.

Carolann Miracle; small woman, Marine's daughter, open carrier, mother, now, undesired, gunfighter. She survived and lived to see her daughter's third birthday.


Good story, with a very good ending !!

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#1. To: Stoner (#0)

“I dropped my soda, released my gun from my holster and cocked it."

An empty chamber is an unloaded gun. Which is why I'll be carrying a revolver.

She got lucky -- especially with a loaded gun pointed at her. Lucky because she had two non-sweaty hands with which to rack the slide and lucky not to have a failure to feed.

Certainly with open carry she could use a holster which protects the trigger from accidental discharge.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-08-18   13:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

I agree. I always carry with one in the chamber, and that is the way I train my family to carry. She was very lucky.

I am glad it ended the way it did. No need to spend tax dollars on the perp. Ef him. His family will probably be all Boo Hoo Hoo. TS!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-08-18   13:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#2)

What does that Glock carry? 15? 16? She shot once?

Her excuse better be that the gun jammed.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-08-18   14:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

" What does that Glock carry? 15? 16? She shot once? "

I think the G17 holds 15 rd. The G22 I think holds 15 rd. Of course, that is if they are the full cap mags. Of course, she might have been saddled with the low cap 10 rd mags. There was no mention in the article of her packing a spare mag.

But, obviously one rd was all she needed. She killed the asshole. She obviously was ready in case more targets appeared.

When in the jungle / combat, that is wise fire discipline/ammo management.

EDIT TO ADD: Not sure if she was using a 9mm or a 40S&W, and do not know about shot placement, if she hit in the chest, stomach, or between the eyes. But the perp ended up 10-7 on scene. GOOD !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-08-18   15:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner (#2)

Why would anyone not carry a round in the chamber?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2016-08-18   22:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Don (#5) (Edited)

" Why would anyone not carry a round in the chamber? "

Basically to avoid accidental discharge.

Probably makes good sense on a range, or if one is carrying while doing a lot of outdoor work ( like brush clearing, cutting firewood, etc ) especially depends on the type of weapon. For example, if one is carrying a 1911, one in the chamber, hammer back, safety flipped up. Then there is the possibility of bumping against something, and knocking the safety off. Things like that.

However, if one is carrying in a non working activity, and anticipating the possibility of needing the weapon for defense, or in a combat situation, one should carry one in the tube.

I normally carry a 1911, with one in the chamber, safety on, carried in a thumb break holster, with the strap blocking the hammer in the event of the safety accidentally becoming disengaged . When working around the farm, I carry a Glock, with one in the tube.

Naturally, if you are going to carry a weapon, you should have the proper training with your chosen weapon, and should ALWAYS maintain proper weapon discipline / control.

According to the article, the girls father, a Marine, trained her. I assume he trained her to carry the way she did.

If you talk to several firearm instructors, you will get a variety of opinions on this.

I answered your question with MHO. I am not an expert, or certified instructor. Like I said, talk to a variety of instructors and you will get a variety of opinions.

Carrying with an empty chamber is called " carrying Israeli style ". You can do a google search to read more about it, and how it originated.

I would only recommend it to someone on a range, or to someone carrying a weapon they were not trained on / familiar with.

I trained all of my family to carry with one in the chamber.

I hope this helps

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-08-19   9:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#0)

Carolann's response is common. She did not want to kill her attacker. It was a consequence of what he forced her to do. She would have preferred that it never happened.

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