LF: Father & 7yo daughter held at gunpoint by ‘insane & violent’ police officer

Title: Father & 7yo daughter held at gunpoint by ‘insane & violent’ police officer
Source: Russia Today
URL Source: https://www.rt.com/usa/355930-arizona-police-gunpoint-car/
Published: Aug 14, 2016
Author: RT
Post Date: 2016-08-15 14:08:31 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6969
Comments: 66

A father and his young daughter claim they were terrorized by a highway patrolman in Arizona while they were en route to the Grand Canyon on Friday.

Ken Walton, who is from California, described the horrifying ordeal in a lengthy Facebook post where he and his 7-year-old daughter were held at gunpoint after being pulled over by the out-of-control highway patrolman.

“Tonight, I was arrested at gunpoint by an Arizona highway patrol officer who threatened to shot me in the back (twice) in front of my 7-year-old daughter. For a moment, I was certain he was going to kill me for no reason,” he wrote.

Walton had been making his way to the Grand Canyon in a rented car when he was pulled over by the Arizona Highway Patrol who had been tailing him for a few miles.

“I hadn’t been speeding so I wondered if perhaps the car had a broken taillight or something. I rolled down my window and waited,” he said.

Rather than approach the driver’s side, the officer instead “rapped on the rear passenger side window with his pistol.”

His daughter who was “sitting inches from the barrel of his gun, jumped with fear as the officer yelled at me to roll down the front passenger window, his service weapon pointed directly at me.”

While the police officer continued to shout orders, the young passenger panicked and attempted to get out of her booster seat to roll down the front window. It was at this point that the agitated officer screamed at her and pointed his gun at her.

Walton said he then exited the car he assumed the position to be arrested at gunpoint.

“Then, as I had my hands in the air, he yelled, at the top of his lungs in a voice I will never forget, as my daughter looked on in terror, ‘Get your hands away from your waist or I’ll blow two holes through your back right now!”

The father said he was “utterly terrified,” at this stage. “I’ve heard stories of police yelling out false things like this before they unjustifiably attack someone as a way to justify the attack and I thought this was what was happening to me. I braced for bullets to hit me and all I could think of was my daughter having to watch it happen and being left alone on the side of the highway with an insane, violent cop.”

After being arrested, he was placed in the back of the police car and Walton then confronted the officer for threatening to kill him. He also got the patrolman’s name - Oton Villegas - and his badge number.

“He stood by his story that I had made a threatening movement toward my waist, and I said it wasn’t true, and he said this wasn’t the place to discuss it. He let me go attend to my daughter but continued to ‘detain’ us for another 20 minutes as he talked to his supervisors, presumably plotting damage control.”

The dad is now deciding on if he will take legal action, but added that his daughter was “thoroughly traumatized by the event.”

In March, a police officer was charged with second-degree murder after shooting dead an unarmed 26-year-old man in Arizona.

Body camera footage of the incident, which took place in January, confirmed the victim, Daniel Shaver, pleading with the officer not to shoot him as he crawled along the hallway outside his room at the La Quinta Inn in Mesa.

Nah, not from my tablet. Not the full version anyway. Too time consuming to type from it. But i was 100 percent unjustly beat by 5 to 9 kentucky pigs. No questions just grabbed my arm threw me to ground and started pounding my face into pavement while yeling quit resisting. Id like to find them and put bullets in every one of their heads.

It had plates that were filed by the rental company as STOLEN... why didn't your piece of Shit scumbag fucking article even mention that ONCE?

Traveling behind the vehicle, how does the officer know it's not stolen, dickhead?

I'm not claiming anything, dickbreath. I wasn't there. Only a paultard claims they know exactly what happened from a written article, written by another person that wasn't at the scene.

You are saying that he fits the "stupid asshole" description....wonderful observation on your part.

You don't know the cop was way out of bounds since you don't know what happened during the stop. There was backup at the stop site. You don't know how the girl was treated, you only know what the author "claims" that the father "claimed."

Why would you make a judgment call on an unsubstantiated "claim?" Your statements in your posts indicate that you have definitely fallen prey to either an unconscious bias fallacy or a conscious bias fallacy?

More importantly, How can anyone really know the truth of this matter by considering only the one side presented by the author?

Yet the plates that were reported stolen were attached to a car from the very same rental company.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

There's a complete play-by-play account from the guy who was terrorized by the cowardly POS thug.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

How do you do that, asshole, until the vehicle is stopped, you run the VIN on the car in NCIC and interview the driver.

V&T stops are some of the most dangerous things officers do, especially a felony stop.

The person who tells the side of the story you want to believe is always the truth....eh?

If you believe my 7 year old daughter was lying down in the front bucket seat of the car while I was traveling down Interstate 40, the large group of officers who converged onto the scene right as I was being handcuffed could confirm that she was buckled into her booster seat where she belonged. She's pretty angry about this part of the article, which she perceives to be a lie.

If the arresting officer didn't see her, he wasn't doing his job, or maybe his recollection of the scene is faulty, which is understandable given what appeared to be his highly agitated mental state. Or maybe he's indeed not being truthful to cover the fact that his gun was pointed at her.

Anyone who points a gun at a child is a fucking coward, and those who defend such actions are despicable scum.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

His anger is rightly directed at the police officer who behaved in a disgraceful and brutal way.

If the police won't discipline their ranks to behave much better, then the court system, through punitive litigation and billions of dollars in damages, will have to impose such damage on municipalities that local politicians start imposing all sorts of rules on the police.

I always have, my whole life. But I am not blind to what has been going on. And they are rapidly losing my support. I used to always give them the benefit of the doubt. Now, I have pretty serious doubts. I no longer trust them the way I did.

Truly I tell you that if the police do not clean up their act pretty significantly, that the people are going to turn on them, and then the politicians, seeing where their bread is buttered, will go with the people and the police will start to get crucified legally, whether they deserve it or not.

The way things are trending will not go on without an inevitable backlash. The police are losing me, and I am a pretty good bellwether of middle class white center-right Midwestern America. The police are on their way to losing me, and they have to discipline themselves to knock off this crap.

If they won't, when I go over to the other side on this, well over 50% of the public will be arrayed against them, the politicians will follow us, and the police will start really suffering severe legal backlash and personal repercussions for excessive behavior. The presumption they are right will be stripped and the protection from personal liability will be removed.

And if that means fewer people want to do the police job, we the People will accept that and just arm ourselves more, rather than accepting the police going on as they are.

This is one of those things that anybody with clear sight can see coming. The police are really getting out of control and are behaving in an unchecked way that will certainly provoke the imposition of stricter checks and balances. The pendulum will swing. It always does in reaction to things like this.

I haven't abandoned them yet, but I am really getting frustrated and angry with them, and frustrated and angry with the attitudes of their wooden- headed supporters, who literally justify ANYTHING. That never works in America, not ever. Americans are not Prussians, and we just won't accept certain behaviors because we "must". Politically, things change.

On another thread there was an argument about Vietnam. Truth is, the American people gave the political leadership 14 years, from 1961 until 1975, to exercise its judgment. The political leadership, both parties, failed badly, so that by 1975, when the North invaded the South, the American people were adamantly opposed to sending any more forces or lifting a finger, so the President had to stand by helplessly and watch our ally be overrun by the Communists and be destroyed, with a million plus dead.

Once the American people turn, they turn. The authorities are given huge tolerance and huge leeway, for awhile. But if they abuse it - and the police are abusing it - people begin to get pissed off. And when they do - and they always do eventually - then nothing can save the side that had made itself odious in the eyes of the people.

The police are doing that now. I used to trust them. Now I don't. This is happening all over. It's not because I'm a dupe who is being propagandized. It's because the new generation of combat-veteran police do not seem to comprehend that we, who pay their paychecks, are not an enemy civilian population that has to be coerced. They are acting like they did in Iraq, and we will not tolerate it forever. If they don't open their eyes and change their manner, the political structure of America will turn on them.

There is still time for them to change. But that time is running out. When a completely innocent man and his daughter experience what happened in the story, and the police response to a really terrifying incident is that they should blame the car company because a hysterical cop pulled a gun on them - the lack of understanding and sense of entitlement on the part of the police becomes strong and clear.

Cops make mistakes. But when police departments come out with arrogant and self-serving statements like that, they are hastening the day when they completely lose everybody like me.

They need to police themselves FIRMLY. And they need to do it NOW. I'm not requesting it. I'm telling them that.

Police behavior is making it more likely that Hillary Clinton will win the election.

The FBI's lying started a chain reaction, with the AZ highway patrol and dept of public safety joining in.

Unfortunately, Gatlin and GrandIsland will never condemn cops for any criminal actions they are involved in, including lying under oath.

On November 17, 2012, a 40-year-old father from Harlem, Greg Allen, defending himself pro se (Latin, he says, for when you fire your attorney), won acquittal in a case brought against him by the Brooklyn District Attorney and the New York City Police Department. The Judge determined that the witnesses, two officers from Brooklyn’s notorious 73rd precinct, had lied.

A few weeks later, US District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin upheld claims of NYPD misconduct in another case, finding the testimony made by police officers Miguel Santiago and Kieron Ramdeen not credible. Scheindlin sort of piled it on.

The officers’ account “makes no…sense,” it was “implausible,” she said. She noted that Santiago had previously lied in the scope of his police work, issuing summonses to an innocent person to help a friend of his in a bizarre revenge scheme.

First- and second-degree perjury is a felony, and yet none of these cops will face any charges for straight up lying in a courtroom under oath. The rules are different for cops. As infuriating as that might seem, this pattern of behavior has been known fact for decades.

A 1987 study from Chicago found that 76 percent of officers agreed that that they frequently bent the facts to establish probable cause; 48 percent said that judges were right in tossing police testimony as untrustworthy.

Judge Alex Kozinski of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, publicly stated in the 1990s:

"It is an open secret long shared by prosecutors, defense lawyers, and judges that perjury is widespread among law enforcement officers … police lie to avoid letting someone they think is guilty, or they know is guilty, go free."

“Police see the world in black and white, there are not a lot of shades of gray. There is us, on the job, and our families and people who are sympathetic to our worldview and everybody else is an asshole… Anything that I, as one of the good guys, that I can do to get the bad guys in jail is justifiable,” former Boston Police Department Lieutenant Thomas Nolan says.

It’s this mindset that makes a police officer feel he is entitled to lie, justified to do whatever it takes and even, in a way, obligated to violate people’s rights if he deems it necessary to his purpose of getting the “scum” off the streets.

It is typically used to "make the case" against someone they believe to be guilty when minor irregularities during the suspect's arrest or search threaten to result in acquittal on a technicality.

The LAPD is said to call the practice "joining the liars' club." In a 1996 article in the Los Angeles Times, "Has the Drug War Created an Officer Liars' Club?," Joseph D. McNamara, then chief of police of San Jose, said "Not many people took defense attorney Alan M. Dershowitz seriously when he charged that Los Angeles cops are taught to lie at the birth of their careers at the Police Academy.

But as someone who spent 35 years wearing a police uniform, I've come to believe that hundreds of thousands of law-enforcement officers commit felony perjury every year testifying about drug arrests."

“Police see the world in black and white, there are not a lot of shades of gray. There is us, on the job, and our families and people who are sympathetic to our worldview and everybody else is an asshole…

Gee whiz, that sounds like our own little fascist jackboot GrandIsland, doesn't it?

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Fortunately, being the objective minded person I am….I will never condemn cops on the basis of information presented solely in an agenda driven yellow journalism article like you constantly do.

When A cop in charged with a crime and found guilty by a jury of his peers or found guilty by a judge in a bench trial….then I will say that justice has prevailed and worked the American Legal system worked as it was designed to work.

Some folks are simply cop-hating sons of bitches who get their jollies off doing such a thing.

EXACTLY!!! The rental car company had reported the plates stolen, the officer spotted the plates on a vehicle and made a stop.

Sure thing bootlicker - pointing a gun at a seven year old child is the epitome of bravery.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Anyone who even dares question the actions of these "heroes" in blue is a cop hater in your fascist world-view.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

Nope, everyone has the right to question the actions of a LEO, but there is a time and place to properly do so.

Anyone who challenges a LEO and fails to follow his instructions in the performance of his duty is stupid.

The time to question is afterwards when physically removed from the situation and using various legal channels.

There are three ways to complain about brutality or misconduct by police officers:
1. internal complaints,
2. criminal complaints, and
3. civil suits
A person can use any one or a combination of these avenues.

That's something never seen by me, nimrod. You have a notarized copy of just one?

That's what I thought. Puketard makes shit up and you run around behind him and wipe the Sneak- a-Peter off him chin.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

There was only one (1) car and (1) plate. It was still on the same car. No, the cop could not figure out for himself that the car was not stolen.

The officer ran the plate and the system returned that it was stolen. That is the information he acted upon.

Fox Rent a Car reports that the vehicle, "was reported stolen in California with the Alameda County Sheriff's Department on 11/12/15," and that the vehicle "was recovered by the Oakland Police Department on 11/17/15 and the vehicle was cleared by the Oakland Police Department on that same day to return to the rental fleet."

It appears someone dropped the ball and never updated the computer system. The arresting officer is not the one at fault. It appears that the fault belongs to the Oakland, California police department.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

I just happen to notice that in many of these cases the police have to tell the driver to roll down the window when they are at the window.

Sounds like you don't have capability & capacity to be coherent; this is especially evident with your personal choices of electronic communication devices.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."