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Title: Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... ers-as-big-threat-as-isis.html
Published: Jul 23, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-07-23 18:34:40 by Justified
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ISIS Published July 23, 2016 Washington Free Beacon Facebook6974 Twitter1032 livefyre7000 Email Print European Union Climate Commissioner Miguel Arias Canete welcomes U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, from left, in Vienna, Austria, Friday July 22, 2016. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak)

European Union Climate Commissioner Miguel Arias Canete welcomes U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, from left, in Vienna, Austria, Friday July 22, 2016. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) ( )

Secretary of State John Kerry said in Vienna on Friday that air conditioners and refrigerators are as big of a threat to life as the threat of terrorism posed by groups like the Islamic State.

The Washington Examiner reported that Kerry was in Vienna to amend the 1987 Montreal Protocol that would phase out hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, from basic household and commercial appliances like air conditioners, refrigerators, and inhalers.

“As we were working together on the challenge of [ISIS] and terrorism,” Kerry said. “It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”

Kerry said that most of the substances banned in the Montreal Protocol have increased the use of HFCs and claimed that the coolant was thousands of times more potent than CO2. He added that the increase of HFCs has led to the trend of global climate change.

“The use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing,” Kerry said. “Already, the HFCs use in refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is. It’s the equivalent to emissions from nearly 300 coal-fired power plants every single year.”

Members of the Montreal Protocol have met their obligations and have aided in the shrinking of the hole in the ozone, as well as created jobs and improved the quality of life, Kerry said.

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy was also present at the negotiations and is serving as the lead negotiator for the United States. McCarthy has said that her goal is to enact the HFC agreement by the end of the year.

New EPA rules along with the global deal would band HFCs in the United States and push for alternative chemicals for use in appliances. The negotiations are part of President Obama’s climate agenda to combat global climate change.

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#1. To: Justified (#0)

Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS

Fixed it.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-23   18:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

OMG come down south and steal peoples ac and see how long it takes for a bunch of pissed off women to kick the shit of the federal govenrment! You think BLM is something wait till you see BWAC[bitch's want ac].

Justified  posted on  2016-07-23   18:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)

You could put 90% of the demoncrap party is a bigger threat to the world than isis. Im sure there has to be some good people in the demoncrap party who are not progressives.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-23   18:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#0)

Kerry said that most of the substances banned in the Montreal Protocol have increased the use of HFCs

I guess they thought when they banned CFCs we'd just give up on the idea of refrigerating our food. Fucking morons.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-23   18:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ConservingFreedom (#4)

I heard that the freon they use now will be replaced with something new before to long. Before you change something you should know where you are going before you get there. But thats the progressive's way change for the sake of change. Its the thought that counts.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-23   18:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#0)

" Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS "

Kerry is one humongus dumb SOB. He is too stupid to breathe

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-23   19:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#6)

Most of the politicians are oxygen wasters and should be prosecuted for their crimes! Just think some poor polar bear is dying because progressives are consuming oxygen!

Justified  posted on  2016-07-23   19:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Justified (#0)

Too stupid to comment on . But here it is ...... JFKerry ; have you considered how many lives AC and refrigeration has saved ? Why don't you live by the example you preach ? You should only eat food that has not been refrigerated .

In bridge, you have wild cards called trump cards. The trump cards are really wild because they change from hand to hand, depending on the bidding.

tomder55  posted on  2016-07-23   19:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified (#0)

I'll bet the AC in Kerry's house is set at a comfortable 71 degrees.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-23   20:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#9)

I'll bet the AC in Kerry's house is set at a comfortable 71 degrees.

They don't need AC - his wife's pussy keeps it cold.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-23   20:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ConservingFreedom (#10)

LOL. Besides cold, it probably stinks too.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-23   20:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ConservingFreedom (#4)

Ain't no big deal... Just about any gas can be used as a refrigerant: Ammonia, CO2, Methane, Butane, Hydrogen, Helium, Nitrogen, etc. etc. etc.
Of course, the ones that stink, are poisonous and or explosive/flammable under certain conditions are also somewhat less desirable for obvious reasons... But that's the way life is, nothing is perfect, there's always a trade-off.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-23   20:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#12)

Thats good lets use ammonia for residential and light commercial ac and refrig appliances! LOL

We can end western populations pretty fast! We can all move right back into the 3rd world mode.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-23   20:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Justified (#13)

Actually, ammonia might not be a bad idea.
That's what was originally used before GM & DuPont began producing freon in the 1930s. And in fact, is still in use in large scale industrial applications (food processing industry) because it's highy efficient.
The biggest drawback is safety concerns due to leakage. But it is non-flammable and lighter-than-air, so it should dissipate quickly in well ventilated areas. Plus today's manufacturing quality control is vastly superior to the 1910s, '20s & '30s when residential ammonia refrigeration was in use... so there should be less leakage than there was back then.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-23   21:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Willie Green (#14)

Say hey Willie!

Your knowledge of refrigeration impresses me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-07-23   23:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#6)

" Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS "

Kerry is one humongus dumb SOB. He is too stupid to breathe

Kerry has always been a blight on this nation. He volunteered for officer's duty 9n Viet Nam 30 miles off shore inspecting sampans where there weren't any, and playing cards at the officer's club between shifts. Somebody got the bright idea of using the small boats he was stationed on to patrol rivers as "swift boats". It was moderately dangerous work not to his liking. He rapidly faked three wounds that, on paper, entitled him to leave the navy with honors. The last one was a humdinger. He threw a hand grenade on shore and a tiny bit of shrapnel flew up in the air and entangled in the hair on his arm. The next day he limped into sick bay complaining of his wound. The doctor treating him brushed the piece off his arm and said, "I don't understand how you kept the thing on you long enough to get here." The doctor refused to put him up for another purple heart. Kerry went up the chain of command and pulled strings to get another purple heart citation. Three purple hearts hang in the walls of his office to impress visitors. There is not so much as a scratch mark anywhere on his body to account for them.

I could go on with this, but I'm out of time.

rlk  posted on  2016-07-24   0:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#14)

Actually, ammonia might not be a bad idea.

It would be a terrible idea for residential and light commercial. You would be dead before you realized there was a problem. Thats the reason why its not used but in specific areas.

The BS of CFC is over blown. If it is as terrible as they claimed big cities would not have an ozone layer which they do. Yes I understand that one CFC molecule can attack 10 o3 molecules but mother nature Trumps humans. We puny humans actually think we are badass and must protect mother nature. Mother nature laughs and says I fart stronger than the whole human race can muster in strength! You probably should do some reading of how 1 volcano eruption puts out more cfc than man by a huge number.

Climate change is code word for world domination by progressives. Its a way of condition stupid people into believing that government is the only answer when its been nothing but the problem from day one.

PS The ozone hole healed itself! Go figure with out help from puny stupid humans! Its just a cycle of life that humans can not control. Oh the inhumanity of it all!!!!!! ;)

Justified  posted on  2016-07-24   9:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk (#16)

That all pretty much came out in the 2004 election. It drove people like this MSNBC hack nuts:

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-24   11:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Justified (#17)

You would be dead before you realized there was a problem. Thats the reason why its not used but in specific areas.

Meh... it's no more dangerous than using natural gas, which is why some nervous nellies have all electric stoves, ovens, hot water and furnaces/baseboard heat. But if you're antsy about that stuff, I'm sure you could install an ammonia detector just like they have for smoke alarms & carbon monoxide.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-24   12:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

Thank-you Fred... but I'm no expert...
I did, however, gain a little insight when I worked for an A/C factory back in the '80s...
Other engineers focus their entire career in this area (not just design and manufacturing, but also the various A/C-refrigeration repair companies for residential and commercial systems)
ASHRAE (American Society of Heating, Refrigerating, and Air-Conditioning Engineers) has something like 50,000 members... I'm sure they already figured out what refrigerant they'll switch to if HFCs are restricted.

So it's not a matter that they can't change... It's more that many of them may not want to invest the money to tweak the design of their product to accommodate the change.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-24   12:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: no gnu taxes (#18)

That all pretty much came out in the 2004 election. It drove people like this MSNBC hack nuts:

I know and I haven't forgotten a bit of what happened during the period. That son of a bitch, along with Hillary, should be hung from a lamp post.

rlk  posted on  2016-07-24   18:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rlk (#16)

You are being too kind to Kerrry.

God maintains a delicate balance between keeping his existence sufficiently evident so people will know he's there and yet hiding his presence enough so that people who want to choose to ignore him can do it. This way, their choice of destiny is really free. - J.P. Morelad

www.evidenceforjesuschrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2016-07-24   18:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Willie Green (#19)

Meh... it's no more dangerous than using natural gas,

Actually its much worse than ng. You can breath ng and not die. If ng builds up enough it can be explosive. It takes very little ammonia to harm you permanently.

If ammonia was viable for residential or light commercial work it would be implemented. Businessmen are not stupid but can be greedy at times.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-24   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Justified (#17)

The entire argument over this ozone layer matter was about chlorine, and that it would affect the equilibrium between ozone being created and destroyed. Chlorine is dense, but these environazis still suggested it would be elevated to the stratosphere by winds.

The whole ozone layer went away when these folks went with "climate change" as their latest crusade.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-24   20:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Justified (#23)

If ammonia makes you soil your panties, then use some other substance as a refrigerent: methane, butane, propane, acetone, alcohol, etc. etc.

The point is, there are plenty of substitutes available. Hell, you can even use water as a refrigerant.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-24   21:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Willie Green (#25)

The problem is climate change is bs and politically pushed to sucker the weak minded people.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-24   21:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Justified (#26)

It's all a part of unsustainable globalization.
World population has almost TRIPLED, just in my lifetime:

The Earth's resources are finite, and excessive growth & development pollute and damage our environment.

Frankly, I think "climate change" is too feeble to describe the dire conditions that we'll be facing. Here in America, the "American Dream" is dead... our cities are headed for overpopulated, disease-infested, malnourished slums... Gated suburban communities won't provide any protection from the spread of the squalid filth & crime.. And Trump's Wall will be a totally ineffective bandaid...

I personally believe that it's already too late to avoid this fate... But if they want to label their meager efforts "climate change", I got no problem with that... Afterall, it's the unregulated "free market" that's the root cause of this putrid contamination... and there's no reason to think that the unregulated "free market" will divert this tsunami of global decay.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-25   7:54:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Willie Green (#27)

The Earth's resources are finite, and excessive growth & development pollute and damage our environment.

Thats where left are ignorant. There is no such animal. US alone can produce enough to feed the world. But doing so enslaves the US to the world. We work so hard that we stop having babies and feed people who do nothing but have more babies. We are killing ourselves for some kinda crazy progressive logic.

Third world people are the ones over populating the earth. Im surprised that asia hasn't thrown the earths rotation off since 70% of the people live there.

These are the craziest times in history. I guess when we let progressives run our lives we should expect crazy things to happen. Since you have to be crazy to be a progressive.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-26   8:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Willie Green (#27)

The Earth's resources are finite, and excessive growth & development pollute and damage our environment.

LOL

I remember back when I was in elementary school in the 60s hearing how life on earth would be wiped out by 1990 because of human population growth.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-26   10:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Willie Green (#25)

Hell, you can even use water as a refrigerant.

I doubt water could ever be used as a refrigerant. A useful refrigerant needs to be a gas at ambient temperatures and then easily converted to a liquid through compression.

There is a difference between a coolant and a refrigerant.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-26   10:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Justified (#28)

US alone can produce enough to feed the world.

That's delusional.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-07-26   10:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Willie Green (#31)

The US easily has the ability to produce 5 times what it needs to feed itself. This has been known for a long time. Hell, why do you think they are trying to use corn as a fuel rather than food?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-26   11:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

Don't try to use logic with Willie. He only beliefs what his progressive master Latrell's him.

A few big farms have run everyone out of the farm business because they can produce so much very cheaply.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-26   11:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Willie Green (#31)

I'm sorry you've been programmed by progressive's but they distort and flat out lie about everything.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-26   11:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Justified (#33)

I don't know what happened to Willie. He used to be a conservative, or at least pretend to be.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-07-26   14:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Justified (#0)

Kerry and bush went to the same cults, joined the same colleges, share booze and double digit iqs. They're great for trying to manipulate people for.their.own .nds.

Titorite2  posted on  2016-07-26   21:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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