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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Trump demands Ginsburg resign for criticizing him as unfit
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2016-07-13-12-03-05
Published: Jul 13, 2016
Author: Vivian Salama
Post Date: 2016-07-13 13:11:30 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 2440
Comments: 25

Donald Trump called Wednesday for Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to resign for saying publicly that she feels he is unfit to be president. Lashing out, Trump said the 83-year-old justice's "mind is shot."

"Justice Ginsburg of the U.S. Supreme Court has embarrassed all by making very dumb political statements about me," the presumptive Republican presidential nominee wrote in an early morning tweet on @realDonaldTrump. "Her mind is shot - resign!"

Ginsburg said in an interview with The Associated Press last week that she didn't want to think about the possibility that Trump would be president and predicted that Democrat Hillary Clinton will win and have a few appointments to make to the Supreme Court.

It is highly unusual for a sitting justice to weigh in so publicly on a political campaign, though Ginsburg is known for speaking her mind on other issues and is celebrated as a liberal icon known to fans as Notorious RBG.

In a subsequent interview with The New York Times, she joked about moving to New Zealand if Trump is elected. She escalated her criticism on Tuesday, telling CNN that Trump is a "faker" and questioning how he has "gotten away with not turning over his tax returns."

"He has no consistency about him," she said.

A Supreme Court spokeswoman did not immediately respond Wednesday to a reporter's request for comment on Trump's criticism.

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that it was "totally inappropriate" for Ginsburg to criticize Trump. He said members of the Supreme Court shouldn't weigh in on American elections.

"It raises a level of skepticism that the American people have from time to time about just how objective the Supreme Court is, whether they're over there to call the balls and strikes, or weigh in on one side or another," he said.

House Speaker Paul Ryan told CNN Tuesday that Ginsburg's comments "shows bias to me."

Former Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, who on Tuesday endorsed Clinton, said Wednesday he agrees with Ginsburg's remarks.

The Vermont senator declined to say whether it is appropriate for a sitting Supreme Court justice to openly criticize a White House contender. But he told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he agrees Trump is a "total opportunist" and said "the record is quite clear that he lies just a whole lot of the time."

Ginsburg was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Bill Clinton in 1993, and is the senior member of the court's liberal wing of justices.

One of the high court's most conservative justices, Antonin Scalia, died in February and the vacancy has yet to be filled. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky, f America again (#0)

Trump wants Obama to appoint another justice, before Hillary takes over as president.

He wants to give Obongo another chance to F' America. Wasn't the "wise latina" and the stupid lesbian enough?

Apparently that moron Trump, never thinks through the consequences of his idiotic notions.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-07-13   13:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky, hondo68 (#0)

These are from today but refer to Trump and Ginsburg comments preceding Trump's call for her resignation. No text included due to source.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/donald-trump-is-right-about-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg.html

The Opinion Pages | Editorial

Donald Trump Is Right About Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD [New York Times]

JULY 13, 2016

[snip]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/13/yes-you-read-that-right-the-new-york-times-editorial-board-said-mr-trump-is-right/

The Fix [Washington Post]

Yes, you read that right: The New York Times editorial board said ‘Mr. Trump is right.’

By Callum Borchers

July 13 at 10:08 AM

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2016-07-13   15:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#2)

These are from today but refer to Trump and Ginsburg comments preceding Trump's call for her resignation. No text included due to source.

This is old news on the sites I visit. Here's the first story I read from four or five days ago.

'I don't want to think about that possibility': Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dismisses any thought of a Donald Trump presidency

  • The 83-year-old justice bashed Trump in an end-of-term interview Thursday
  • Predicted that Democrat Hillary Clinton will become the next president
  • Ginsburg said everything would be 'up for grabs' if Trump won the election
  • Misses Antonin Scalia, who died in February and has yet to be replaced

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't even want to think about the possibility of Donald Trump winning the White House.

The 83-year-old justice bashed the presumptive Republican nominee during an interview at her office Thursday - and predicted instead that Democrat Hillary Clinton will become the next president.

Ginsburg, the leader of the court's liberal wing, said during an interview in her office Thursday that the next commander-in-chief — 'whoever she will be' — will have a few appointments to make to the Supreme Court.

'I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs,' she said when someone asked about a potential Trump presidency.

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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (pictured earlier this
year) said in an end-of-term interview Thursday that she didn't even want to
entertain the thought of Donald Trump becoming the next president

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (pictured earlier this year) said in an end-of-term interview Thursday that she didn't even want to entertain the thought of Donald Trump becoming the next president

That includes the future of the high court itself, on which she is the oldest justice. Two justices, Anthony Kennedy and Stephen Breyer, are in their late 70s.

'It's likely that the next president, whoever she will be, will have a few appointments to make,' Ginsburg said, smiling.

She showed no signs of slowing down and didn't seem ready to step down any time soon.

Ginsburg has been catching up on sleep since the court finished its work last week and will have a busy summer of travel that will take her to Europe.

She plans to see as much opera as she can fit in, as is her custom.

Ginsburg lost her best friend on the court during this past term and, partly as a result, found herself on the winning side of most of the high-profile cases.

'I don't want to think about that possibility, but
if it should be, then everything is up for grabs,' Ginsburg said when someone
asked about the possibility of Trump (pictured Wednesday) winning the election

'I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs,' Ginsburg said when someone asked about the possibility of Trump (pictured Wednesday) winning the election

Justice Antonin Scalia died in February, depriving his conservative allies of a reliable vote and leaving eight justices to decide nearly five dozen cases.

President Barack Obama has nominated Judge Merrick Garland for the ninth seat, but Senate Republicans have refused to hold a hearing or vote on Garland's nomination.

They say the next president should have the right to name Scalia's replacement. Even if the Senate were to confirm Garland after the election, the court probably would hear three months of cases without him, Ginsburg said.

And if there's no action in a postelection, lame-duck session of Congress, the vacancy could last the entire term, she said.

Court majorities this term moved to shut down tactics used by opponents of abortion and of affirmative action in higher education in two major cases, Ginsburg added.

She doesn't expect to see any more such cases. The court upheld the use of race in college admissions in Texas and struck down Texas abortion-clinic regulations that the state said were needed to protect patients.

'It seemed to me it was a sham to pretend this was about a woman's health,' Ginsburg said.

Ginsburg (pictured with President Barack Obama in
January before his State of the Union address) instead predicted that Hillary
Clinton would become the next commander-in-chief

Ginsburg (pictured with President Barack Obama in January before his State of the Union address) instead predicted that Hillary Clinton would become the next commander-in-chief

She misses the colorful, outspoken Scalia, whom she described as charming. 'The public got the wrong impression of him,' she said. Among the many pictures and mementos in her office is one of the two of them atop an elephant in India many years ago.

Without him, she said, the court is 'a paler place.' But she thinks she and her colleagues did well to divide 4-4 in only four cases, including one that effectively killed Obama's plan to help millions of immigrants who are living in the country illegally.

Another consequence of Scalia's death was an increase in the number of dissenting opinions written by Justice Clarence Thomas, she said. Thomas wrote 18 dissents. Justice Sonia Sotomayor was next, with eight.

'Thomas always wrote a lot of dissents, but I think he was kind of making up for Scalia not being here. He wrote so many,' she said.

Ginsburg disputed reports that the court is taking on only relatively unimportant cases while waiting for a ninth justice.

'It isn't so. We haven't selected them with a view to dodging challenging cases. We take them as they come to us,' she said.

But Ginsburg did suggest that the court probably would not take up a major challenge to the death penalty any time soon. She joined Breyer's opinion a year ago that called for considering outlawing capital punishment.

'There are only two votes so far to have asked for it so I don't think it's likely, if there is such a challenge, that it would get four votes to grant cert,' she said, using court shorthand.

It takes four justices to vote to hear a case, or grant certiorari.

Scalia's death essentially broke a tie in the affirmative action case, which ended with a 4-3 decision in favor of Texas' admissions plan, Ginsburg said.

Justice Elena Kagan did not take part because she had previously worked on the case when she served in the Justice Department.

Ginsburg wrote a short separate opinion in the abortion case to complement Breyer's majority opinion. 'I fully subscribed to everything Breyer said, but it was long, and I wanted something pithy,' she said. 'I wrote to say, "Don't try this anymore."' End of story.

Personally, I believe if Clarence Thomas said anything close to that, he would have been lynched.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   16:15:13 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#1)

Trump wants Obama to appoint another justice

That's news to me.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   16:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranky (#4) (Edited)

Donald Trump called Wednesday for Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to resign

Trump wants Obama to appoint another justice

Cranky>> That's news to me.

You see where he says that he wants her to resign? What's next is Obama appoints a replacement. Not too difficult, to figure that out.

Trump wants Obama to appoint another justice. It's a fact, whether you want to admit it or not.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-07-13   17:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

"Trump demands Ginsburg resign for criticizing him as unfit"

No. He said she should resign for making political statements in an election year.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-13   17:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky (#0)

He isn't thinking this one through . If she resigns then the emperor will try to appoint another progressive clone. He should demand she recuse herself if the election comes down to another Bush v Gore SCOTUS decision.

Oh, miserable mortals! Oh wretched earth! Oh, dreadful assembly of all mankind! Eternal sermon of useless sufferings! Deluded philosophers who cry, “All is well,” Hasten, contemplate these frightful ruins, (Voltaire)

tomder55  posted on  2016-07-13   18:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#7)

He should demand she recuse herself

SCOTUS justices don't recuse themselves anymore.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   19:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: cranky (#8)

I made a similar observation at 4-um. Also, maybe Justice Ginsberg would like to offer her legal opinion on the difference between "extreme carelessness" and "gross negligence".

Logsplitter  posted on  2016-07-13   19:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky (#3)

The 83-year-old justice bashed the presumptive Republican nominee during an interview at her office Thursday - and predicted instead that Democrat Hillary Clinton will become the next president.

She doesn't want to think about Trump as president, but apparently is okay with the Clinton being president after she gets a pass on the email scandal.

Quite a position for a USSC judge.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-13   19:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#5)

What's next is Obama appoints a replacement.

What's stopping Øbama from appointing a replacement right now?

I'm pretty sure the supreme court is short a justice.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   20:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#10)

Quite a position for a USSC judge.

I think it's unheard of rhetoric from a sitting justice.

At least, I've never read anything like it.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   20:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pinguinite (#10)

She doesn't want to think about Trump as president, but apparently is okay with the Clinton being president after she gets a pass on the email scandal. Quite a position for a USSC judge.

Great observation

Titorite2  posted on  2016-07-13   20:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tomder55 (#7)

You do understand that the senate would have to confrim the appointment and last i heard senate hasnt confrimed anyone for scalias opening.

Titorite2  posted on  2016-07-13   20:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Titorite2 (#14)

That filthy old libtarded twat ain't going nowhere. That wrinkled up bitch will die at the bench... and Trump will have the pleasure to replace her libtarded ass and Scalia's position.

Trump will be your next pres

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-13   21:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Logsplitter (#9)

Also, maybe Justice Ginsberg would like to offer her legal opinion on the difference between "extreme carelessness" and "gross negligence".

My guess would be, political affiliation.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   21:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: cranky (#11)

What's stopping Øbama from appointing a replacement right now?

You answered your own question in post #4 above....

President Barack Obama has nominated Judge Merrick Garland for the ninth seat, but Senate Republicans have refused to hold a hearing or vote on Garland's nomination.


If Trump gets his way and Ginsberg resigns, then Obongo gets to pick another justice. It would increase the pressure on the senate to do their duty to "advise and consent".

Two empty posts out of nine, is a lot! Another Obongo justice (or two) is likely to get in under those circumstances, IMO.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-07-13   21:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#17)

It would increase the pressure on the senate to do their duty to "advise and consent".

I don't why it would.

The pubbies are citing the so called 'biden rule' as their fig leaf and that shouldn't change.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-07-13   21:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#17)

If Trump gets his way and Ginsberg resigns, then Obongo gets to pick another justice. It would increase the pressure on the senate to do their duty to "advise and consent".

I don't see that. Repubs would just say... hey, with 7 justices, you don't have to worry about ties!

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-13   22:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pinguinite, tpaine, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#19)

Repubs would just say... hey, with 7 justices, you don't have to worry about ties!

They've been ignoring that 'ol Constitution thing for so long, why start some "Rule of Law" stuff now? It's a living document, like the TV guide. /s


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-07-13   22:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#5)

You are retarted or a liar. You are immoral and want gay johnson to win so he can have your ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-07-14   7:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: cranky (#3)

This is old news on the sites I visit.

The news part was the the New York Times siding with Donald Trump.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-07-14   15:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68, cranky, A K A Stone (#5)

What's next is Obama appoints a replacement. Not too difficult, to figure that out.

The President has no such appointment power. He gets to nominate. He has nominated Merrick Garland to replace Scalia. If Notorious RBG resigned today and Obama nominated a replacement, said replacement would get in line behind Garland in not getting confirmed by the Senate.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-07-14   15:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nolu chan, cranky, A K A Stone, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#23) (Edited)

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Appointments Clause, empowers the President of the United States to appoint certain public officials with the "advice and consent" of the U.S. Senate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appointments_Clause

The Senate has failed to do its duty regarding Scalia's replacement. They refuse to "advise and consent" citing the fake "Biden rule". There is no such thing! Uncle Joe doesn't get to amend the Constitution. Senate leader Mitch McConnell is a liar and a fraud (Republican).

Technically Nolu is right, the prez nominates, then the senate advises and consents and then, the president's appointment becomes a justice.

Trump wants Obama to appoint another justice. Continue to pretend that Trump didn't say what he said....


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
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Hondo68  posted on  2016-07-14   17:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: hondo68, cranky, A K A Stone (#24)

Technically Nolu is right, the prez nominates, then the senate advises and consents and then, the president's appointment becomes a justice.

Technically, the President nominates and the Senates chooses to consent or to not consent and, depending on what the Senate does, the nominee does or does not get the appointment.

Obama nominating another justice would just look like a fool, and there would have to be an open seat for the nominee. Unless you infer that the Garland nomination is to be withdrawn, then another justice must leave the bench first. That would make the Court 4-3 conservative and absolutely ensure the Senate would not even consider another Obama nominee.

The Senate advised before Obama nominated Garland that they would not act on the nomination before the election. The Senate is acting on Garland's nomination the way Obama has been acting on immigration control.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-07-15   0:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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