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Title: 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended
Source: NBC News
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news ... police-shootings-black-n605686
Published: Jul 8, 2016
Author: Phil Helsel
Post Date: 2016-07-08 00:22:19 by Roscoe
Keywords: None
Views: 18321
Comments: 155

Eleven Dallas law enforcement officers were shot, three fatally, by what is believed to be two snipers who opened fire during a demonstration downtown over recent police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, the Dallas police chief said.

The snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m., Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he said. Some were shot in the back.

Three of the 11 officers died, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition, Brown said.

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#57. To: Roscoe (#52)

cops are constantly indoctrinated to the level of paranoia

It's a true, factual statement.

What's that private outfit that teaches cops how to shoot people at the slightest suspicion that their life is in danger? And then goes around offering legal defence for them after an innocent person gets shot and killed?

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   9:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Pinguinite (#57)

It's a true, factual statement.

It's a load of steaming bullshit.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   9:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Roscoe (#56)

Deckard-lite.

More insults... Or attempts, in this case.

I think you and GI are just pissed that there has finally been blowback against cops. Doesn't fit your view of an ideal world where cops can shoot anyone they want with impunity. Is that it?

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   9:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#59)

finally been blowback against cops.

Called it.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   9:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pinguinite (#59)

When you say finally blowback it makes it sound like you justify it whether you do or not. Especially the word "finally". Just trying to shoot straight.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-07-08   9:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: GrandIsland (#17)

It's going to be New Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army or a splinter from either one.

The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-07-08   9:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#61)

When you say finally blowback it makes it sound like you justify it whether you do or not. Especially the word "finally". Just trying to shoot straight.

I'm not saying that and I don't think that's what it sounds like. It's a similar situation with US foreign policy of killing with drones and such in the mideast and elsewhere against "terrorists" but which too often kills innocent people. Friends and relatives of those innocent people become "radicalized" and then take up a cause of militant revenge, get labeled as terrorists and the cycle continues.

If one is going to be obligated to call one unjust killing unjustified, without being obligated to call other unjust killings unjustified, then that's a double standard, and that makes people take the law into their own hands. That's blowback. Will Roscoe, GI and others dare even suggest that the killing of the CC holder *might* be unjustified?

Will I be called to the mat on my statement, while they are given a free pass on theirs?

I guess I should formally ping them because I mention them, but they don't care what I have to say or think so I won't bother...

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   9:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pinguinite (#63)

You just couldn't help outing yourself.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   9:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Roscoe (#64)

You have reached the point of being so terse, you say nothing.

A quick count shows you've managed to write about 24 words over 5 posts. Less than 5 words per post, if you're math challenged.

Obviously your are quite literally, "at a loss for words".

When you can post something coherent and meaningful, check back.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   10:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pinguinite (#65)

You're blathering.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   10:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#49)

[to Roscoe:] I understand this stuff justly angers you. However there is no reason enrage people with such unjust speculation. If you are honest with yourself you would admit what you said isn't true.

Thanks for the dose of sanity, A K A Stone.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   10:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Deckard (#35)

Unbelievable.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-07-08   10:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: ConservingFreedom (#67)

Your posts have more red flags than a Soviet military parade.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   10:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Roscoe (#66)

"You're blathering."

No, no, no! You need to build up your word count. (Not that there's a quota. But we're counting, anyways.)

Next time try, You are a drooling, blathering idiot". See? You just went from two words to six.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-08   10:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#46)

I think people are talking past each other. Not able or willing to see the other sides valid points. We've been succesfully divided.

Well said.

I think this dialogue would be different if police officers in LA and MN were in a fire fight. Not Dallas where the dept there worked with the protest organizers.

Then, Deckard's "reap what you sow" might have had application if and only if the officers involved in the shootings of black men were those under fire.

Deckard, if your point is that the police nationwide are indiscriminate in their shooting of citizens and the group who murdered police officers last night indiscriminately killed cops is the 'reaping', then what you are promoting is lawlessness.

A lot of these 'cops shooting civilians' situations end up with acquittals or dismissals for a reason. Some reasons cited above by other posters. The officers are usually white and cases tried in left leaning Black Democrat held city governments with Black judges and somehow the police officers get their case dismissed or they are exonerated. Why is that? Baltimore is case #1. Then we have Chicago as case #2.

In Chicago we have complete lawlessness in many neighborhoods. The City is run by Leftists and minorities. The police have been intimidated to the point where they will not patrol crime rotted neighborhoods. Why because they know they have a target painted on the squad car and backs. End result? More dead Black people from Black on Black crime.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-07-08   10:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: misterwhite (#70)

"According to Brown, police cornered Micah Johnson and negotiated with him for several hours. When talks broke down – they exchanged gunfire with the man. At that point, police sent in a remote vehicle and detonated a bomb – ultimately killing him."

There should be a memorial built for the bomb squad robot.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   11:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: misterwhite (#70)

Not that there's a quota. But we're counting, anyways.

Yeah, it's creepy. Waiting for him to post a spreadsheet.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   11:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Roscoe (#72)

"There should be a memorial built for the bomb squad robot."

Poor baby. Took one for the team. But IF the bad guy also had a robot .....

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-08   11:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Roscoe (#69)

Your posts have more red flags than a Soviet military parade.

You're blathering.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   12:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: ConservingFreedom (#75)

You're projecting.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   12:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Roscoe (#0)

" 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended "

I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-08   13:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Roscoe (#76)

I was blathering by agreeing with A K A Stone? Nut up and tell him so to his face.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   13:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: ConservingFreedom (#78)

"Posts" is plural. And now you're transparently begging for help.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   13:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Stoner (#77)

I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   13:19:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Roscoe (#80)

LOL !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-08   14:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Pinguinite (#63)

I know that isn9'$t what you meant. It just kind of came across that way in my opiniaon. Like they finally got what was coming.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-07-08   14:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Roscoe (#79)

now you're transparently begging for help.

I stated agreement with A K A Stone and you butted in with off-topic jabbering. One of us needs help and it ain't me.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   15:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: misterwhite (#36)

Yes the president and MSM have blood on their hands.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-08   15:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#82)

Like they finally got what was coming.

Well.... define "they".

It's a universal truth that actions have consequences. If you never change your motor oil, you'll eventually wreck your engine. So if we were talking about someone who never did that, then when the day finally came when their engine is destroyed, we would & could say that yes, the owner got what was coming to him. Is it something to be happy about? No. But we would still say that yes, he got what was coming to him.

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer. Has this paranoia resulted in saving cops lives? No doubt it has. Has his same paranoia resulted in innocent & good people being killed by cops. Yes it has, as very much seems with the recent CC case in Minnesota.

This is aside from blatant cases of police brutality. What comes to mind is the case in CA several years ago, where cops stopped to hassle a homeless guy, demanding to search his backpack. "See these fists, they're about to fuck you up" I think was one quote by one of the cops involved. The guy eventually took off, apparently in fear for his life, and he was beaten severely by the cops and died a few days later.

Cops were tried. Not guilty verdict. Hillary justice.

These recurring events have consequences, and one of them is to inspire militant minded people to do stuff like what happened in Dallas. It's nothing to celebrate, much like the motor oil example I gave (though obviously not equating the two in severity). And it also seems the cops wounded and killed were largely in solidarity with the protest message of non-violence.

But if the police attitude will continue to be that of excessive paranoia, and brutalizing cops will continue to be undisciplined and remain on police forces, then all cops as a whole, nationwide will remain in more danger because of it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   15:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: redleghunter (#62) (Edited)

The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.

Really? And what about shining the light on those cops who shot that lady's fiance in Minnesota several days ago see here: and not also to exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-08   17:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: ConservingFreedom (#83)

Put some ice on it.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Pinguinite (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Roscoe (#88)

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

I'm noticing a pattern in your most recent posts. You've obviously long since exhausted whatever supply of logic and dignity you ever may have had, and can only resort to juvenile insults.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   17:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: goldilucky (#86)

exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

This guy?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:31:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Pinguinite (#89)

Projection on steroids. Gotta source for your paranoia slur yet?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Roscoe (#90)

Upon further evaluation something is missing. We believe we have identified a very important missing element.

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera that should have been recording the event at traffic stop. Unfortunately, in Minnesota police don't wear body cameras.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-08   17:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Roscoe (#87)

Put some ice on it.

Yes, I've put you on ice - shame you haven't the wit to understand that.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   17:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: goldilucky (#92)

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera

No, that's not what the article said about the drug-dealing armed robber.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: ConservingFreedom (#93)

You're a legend in your own mind.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deckard (#31)

You don't really think they are shiny gold tooth gang-bang zoo animals, do ya?

lol

It was government hating extremist, like you that struck.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-08   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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