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Title: 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended
Source: NBC News
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news ... police-shootings-black-n605686
Published: Jul 8, 2016
Author: Phil Helsel
Post Date: 2016-07-08 00:22:19 by Roscoe
Keywords: None
Views: 14859
Comments: 155

Eleven Dallas law enforcement officers were shot, three fatally, by what is believed to be two snipers who opened fire during a demonstration downtown over recent police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, the Dallas police chief said.

The snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m., Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he said. Some were shot in the back.

Three of the 11 officers died, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition, Brown said.

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#76. To: ConservingFreedom (#75)

You're projecting.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   12:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Roscoe (#0)

" 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended "

I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-08   13:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Roscoe (#76)

I was blathering by agreeing with A K A Stone? Nut up and tell him so to his face.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   13:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: ConservingFreedom (#78)

"Posts" is plural. And now you're transparently begging for help.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   13:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Stoner (#77)

I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   13:19:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Roscoe (#80)

LOL !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-08   14:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Pinguinite (#63)

I know that isn9'$t what you meant. It just kind of came across that way in my opiniaon. Like they finally got what was coming.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-07-08   14:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Roscoe (#79)

now you're transparently begging for help.

I stated agreement with A K A Stone and you butted in with off-topic jabbering. One of us needs help and it ain't me.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   15:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: misterwhite (#36)

Yes the president and MSM have blood on their hands.

Justified  posted on  2016-07-08   15:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#82)

Like they finally got what was coming.

Well.... define "they".

It's a universal truth that actions have consequences. If you never change your motor oil, you'll eventually wreck your engine. So if we were talking about someone who never did that, then when the day finally came when their engine is destroyed, we would & could say that yes, the owner got what was coming to him. Is it something to be happy about? No. But we would still say that yes, he got what was coming to him.

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer. Has this paranoia resulted in saving cops lives? No doubt it has. Has his same paranoia resulted in innocent & good people being killed by cops. Yes it has, as very much seems with the recent CC case in Minnesota.

This is aside from blatant cases of police brutality. What comes to mind is the case in CA several years ago, where cops stopped to hassle a homeless guy, demanding to search his backpack. "See these fists, they're about to fuck you up" I think was one quote by one of the cops involved. The guy eventually took off, apparently in fear for his life, and he was beaten severely by the cops and died a few days later.

Cops were tried. Not guilty verdict. Hillary justice.

These recurring events have consequences, and one of them is to inspire militant minded people to do stuff like what happened in Dallas. It's nothing to celebrate, much like the motor oil example I gave (though obviously not equating the two in severity). And it also seems the cops wounded and killed were largely in solidarity with the protest message of non-violence.

But if the police attitude will continue to be that of excessive paranoia, and brutalizing cops will continue to be undisciplined and remain on police forces, then all cops as a whole, nationwide will remain in more danger because of it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   15:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: redleghunter (#62) (Edited)

The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.

Really? And what about shining the light on those cops who shot that lady's fiance in Minnesota several days ago see here: and not also to exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-08   17:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: ConservingFreedom (#83)

Put some ice on it.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Pinguinite (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Roscoe (#88)

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

I'm noticing a pattern in your most recent posts. You've obviously long since exhausted whatever supply of logic and dignity you ever may have had, and can only resort to juvenile insults.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   17:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: goldilucky (#86)

exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

This guy?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:31:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Pinguinite (#89)

Projection on steroids. Gotta source for your paranoia slur yet?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   17:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Roscoe (#90)

Upon further evaluation something is missing. We believe we have identified a very important missing element.

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera that should have been recording the event at traffic stop. Unfortunately, in Minnesota police don't wear body cameras.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-08   17:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Roscoe (#87)

Put some ice on it.

Yes, I've put you on ice - shame you haven't the wit to understand that.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   17:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: goldilucky (#92)

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera

No, that's not what the article said about the drug-dealing armed robber.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: ConservingFreedom (#93)

You're a legend in your own mind.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deckard (#31)

You don't really think they are shiny gold tooth gang-bang zoo animals, do ya?

lol

It was government hating extremist, like you that struck.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-08   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer.

Here's a former cop who agrees: How Police Training Contributes to Avoidable Deaths

In most police shootings, officers don’t shoot out of anger or frustration or hatred. They shoot because they are afraid. And they are afraid because they are constantly barraged with the message that that they should be afraid, that their survival depends on it.

Not only do officers hear it in formal training, they also hear it informally from supervisors and older officers. They talk about it with their peers. They see it on police forums and law enforcement publications.

For example, three of the four stories mentioned on the cover of this month’s Police Magazine are about dealing with threats to officer safety. Officers’ actions are grounded in their expectations, and they are taught to expect the worst.

Of course, others have written on the topic of police training, and many seem to agree that cops are trained to look at every encounter as a potentially lethal one.

It's the us vs them syndrome whereby cops are treating all citizens as criminals.

Peddling Paranoia (New Law enforcement officer training curriculum, critics say, creates a risky mindset)

Police training in US makes officers paranoid, fearful

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   18:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Deckard (#97)

Typical leftist.

"And of course, the unfair economic advantages of centuries of oppression were only being refined and entrenched , as Ta-Nehisi Coates has eloquently explained. So when urban black America was finally convulsed by the sort of violence that we would expect from anyone in the face of such vicious and unceasing abuse, many white Americans, the bulk of them probably apolitical, some of them supporters of the civil rights movement, were suddenly and decidedly afraid." -Seth Stroughton

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Roscoe (#98)

Typical leftist.

Former cop.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Deckard (#99)

Former cop.

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Roscoe (#100)

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Sounds like a cop to me.

And investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Of course, he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

Baseless paranoia about crime in America drives police violence

So long as it can be pretended that a police officer had reasonable suspicion his life was in danger, he can get away with anything.

I hope it’s unfair to accuse every cop who kills an unarmed, nonviolent citizen of having enjoyed doing it. But if the majority of them really do feel their lives are in peril, and that they need to act out in the most lethal manner possible, then there is something seriously wrong with their psychology.

To be that paranoid, that knee-jerk with lethal force, is uncalled for in the streets of America, where violent crime has actually been sharply declining for most of the last 20 years.

But this paranoia is a big part of what’s wrong with the average American police officer. Not all of them, of course – many, perhaps even most (although the jury’s still out) are intelligent, compassionate, reasonable, level-headed people.

But their training – not to mention recruitment methods and philosophy – prepare them to face an America that is under siege from a powerful criminal element.

This line of thinking has serious consequences for ordinary citizens who encounter police and has resulted in way too many outrageous, egregious instances of police using uncalled-for deadly violence.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Deckard (#101)

investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Deadly force voucher fraud.

he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Roscoe (#102)

Deadly force voucher fraud.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now its just a spring clean for the May Queen

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#103)

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

First line in your article:

"If you don’t already, you should follow CopBlock on Facebook."

[snigger]

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   20:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Roscoe (#104)

First line in your article:

Cop Block isn't the source for the article, they were linked in the story.

This internet thingie a little confusing for you?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   20:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Deckard (#105)

Cop Block isn't the source for the article

Squirmy. The article offered it as a source.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   21:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Roscoe (#106)

Getting a little tired of your games.

We're done here.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   21:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Deckard (#107)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   21:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Roscoe (#108)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Delusional as usual.

Effing troll.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   22:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Deckard (#109)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-07-08   22:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Deckard (#107)

We're done here.

You'll come crawling back for more punishment.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   22:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Deckard (#109)

Effing

See?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   22:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: buckeroo (#110)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

Sure is acting like one here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   23:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Roscoe (#94)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-09   2:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: goldilucky (#114)

But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

I read somewhere that Wisconsin police don't have body cams. At least not yet.

In comparison with the woman who in initially very stoic, the cop seems to be in a state of hysteria.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   3:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: goldilucky (#114)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded?

From the article that I posted that you read: "St. Anthony Police Officers don’t wear body cameras."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-09   6:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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