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Title: 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended
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NBC News
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news ... police-shootings-black-n605686
Published: Jul 8, 2016
Author: Phil Helsel
Post Date: 2016-07-08 00:22:19 by Roscoe
Keywords: None
Views: 16678
Comments: 155
Eleven Dallas law enforcement officers were shot, three fatally, by what is believed to be two snipers who opened fire during a demonstration downtown over recent police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, the Dallas police chief said. The snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m., Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters. "We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he said. Some were shot in the back. Three of the 11 officers died, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition, Brown said.
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#62. To: GrandIsland (#17)
It's going to be New Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army or a splinter from either one. The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.
I'm not saying that and I don't think that's what it sounds like. It's a similar situation with US foreign policy of killing with drones and such in the mideast and elsewhere against "terrorists" but which too often kills innocent people. Friends and relatives of those innocent people become "radicalized" and then take up a cause of militant revenge, get labeled as terrorists and the cycle continues. If one is going to be obligated to call one unjust killing unjustified, without being obligated to call other unjust killings unjustified, then that's a double standard, and that makes people take the law into their own hands. That's blowback. Will Roscoe, GI and others dare even suggest that the killing of the CC holder *might* be unjustified? Will I be called to the mat on my statement, while they are given a free pass on theirs? I guess I should formally ping them because I mention them, but they don't care what I have to say or think so I won't bother...
You just couldn't help outing yourself.
You have reached the point of being so terse, you say nothing. A quick count shows you've managed to write about 24 words over 5 posts. Less than 5 words per post, if you're math challenged. Obviously your are quite literally, "at a loss for words". When you can post something coherent and meaningful, check back.
You're blathering.
Thanks for the dose of sanity, A K A Stone. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Unbelievable.
Your posts have more red flags than a Soviet military parade.
No, no, no! You need to build up your word count. (Not that there's a quota. But we're counting, anyways.) Next time try, You are a drooling, blathering idiot". See? You just went from two words to six.
Well said. I think this dialogue would be different if police officers in LA and MN were in a fire fight. Not Dallas where the dept there worked with the protest organizers. Then, Deckard's "reap what you sow" might have had application if and only if the officers involved in the shootings of black men were those under fire. Deckard, if your point is that the police nationwide are indiscriminate in their shooting of citizens and the group who murdered police officers last night indiscriminately killed cops is the 'reaping', then what you are promoting is lawlessness. A lot of these 'cops shooting civilians' situations end up with acquittals or dismissals for a reason. Some reasons cited above by other posters. The officers are usually white and cases tried in left leaning Black Democrat held city governments with Black judges and somehow the police officers get their case dismissed or they are exonerated. Why is that? Baltimore is case #1. Then we have Chicago as case #2. In Chicago we have complete lawlessness in many neighborhoods. The City is run by Leftists and minorities. The police have been intimidated to the point where they will not patrol crime rotted neighborhoods. Why because they know they have a target painted on the squad car and backs. End result? More dead Black people from Black on Black crime.
"According to Brown, police cornered Micah Johnson and negotiated with him for several hours. When talks broke down – they exchanged gunfire with the man. At that point, police sent in a remote vehicle and detonated a bomb – ultimately killing him." There should be a memorial built for the bomb squad robot.
Yeah, it's creepy. Waiting for him to post a spreadsheet.
Poor baby. Took one for the team. But IF the bad guy also had a robot .....
You're blathering. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. You're projecting.
I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I was blathering by agreeing with A K A Stone? Nut up and tell him so to his face.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. "Posts" is plural. And now you're transparently begging for help.
LOL !
Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I know that isn9'$t what you meant. It just kind of came across that way in my opiniaon. Like they finally got what was coming.
I stated agreement with A K A Stone and you butted in with off-topic jabbering. One of us needs help and it ain't me. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Yes the president and MSM have blood on their hands.
Well.... define "they". It's a universal truth that actions have consequences. If you never change your motor oil, you'll eventually wreck your engine. So if we were talking about someone who never did that, then when the day finally came when their engine is destroyed, we would & could say that yes, the owner got what was coming to him. Is it something to be happy about? No. But we would still say that yes, he got what was coming to him. IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer. Has this paranoia resulted in saving cops lives? No doubt it has. Has his same paranoia resulted in innocent & good people being killed by cops. Yes it has, as very much seems with the recent CC case in Minnesota. This is aside from blatant cases of police brutality. What comes to mind is the case in CA several years ago, where cops stopped to hassle a homeless guy, demanding to search his backpack. "See these fists, they're about to fuck you up" I think was one quote by one of the cops involved. The guy eventually took off, apparently in fear for his life, and he was beaten severely by the cops and died a few days later. Cops were tried. Not guilty verdict. Hillary justice. These recurring events have consequences, and one of them is to inspire militant minded people to do stuff like what happened in Dallas. It's nothing to celebrate, much like the motor oil example I gave (though obviously not equating the two in severity). And it also seems the cops wounded and killed were largely in solidarity with the protest message of non-violence. But if the police attitude will continue to be that of excessive paranoia, and brutalizing cops will continue to be undisciplined and remain on police forces, then all cops as a whole, nationwide will remain in more danger because of it.
Really? And what about shining the light on those cops who shot that lady's fiance in Minnesota several days ago see here: and not also to exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.
Put some ice on it.
There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...
I'm noticing a pattern in your most recent posts. You've obviously long since exhausted whatever supply of logic and dignity you ever may have had, and can only resort to juvenile insults.
Projection on steroids. Gotta source for your paranoia slur yet?
Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera that should have been recording the event at traffic stop. Unfortunately, in Minnesota police don't wear body cameras.
Yes, I've put you on ice - shame you haven't the wit to understand that. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. No, that's not what the article said about the drug-dealing armed robber.
You're a legend in your own mind.
You don't really think they are shiny gold tooth gang-bang zoo animals, do ya? lol It was government hating extremist, like you that struck. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Here's a former cop who agrees: How Police Training Contributes to Avoidable Deaths In most police shootings, officers don’t shoot out of anger or frustration or hatred. They shoot because they are afraid. And they are afraid because they are constantly barraged with the message that that they should be afraid, that their survival depends on it. Not only do officers hear it in formal training, they also hear it informally from supervisors and older officers. They talk about it with their peers. They see it on police forums and law enforcement publications. For example, three of the four stories mentioned on the cover of this month’s Police Magazine are about dealing with threats to officer safety. Officers’ actions are grounded in their expectations, and they are taught to expect the worst. Of course, others have written on the topic of police training, and many seem to agree that cops are trained to look at every encounter as a potentially lethal one. It's the us vs them syndrome whereby cops are treating all citizens as criminals. Typical leftist. "And of course, the unfair economic advantages of centuries of oppression were only being refined and entrenched , as Ta-Nehisi Coates has eloquently explained. So when urban black America was finally convulsed by the sort of violence that we would expect from anyone in the face of such vicious and unceasing abuse, many white Americans, the bulk of them probably apolitical, some of them supporters of the civil rights movement, were suddenly and decidedly afraid." -Seth Stroughton Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.
Former cop. Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.
Sounds like a cop to me. And investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor. Of course, he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid. Baseless paranoia about crime in America drives police violence So long as it can be pretended that a police officer had reasonable suspicion his life was in danger, he can get away with anything. I hope it’s unfair to accuse every cop who kills an unarmed, nonviolent citizen of having enjoyed doing it. But if the majority of them really do feel their lives are in peril, and that they need to act out in the most lethal manner possible, then there is something seriously wrong with their psychology. To be that paranoid, that knee-jerk with lethal force, is uncalled for in the streets of America, where violent crime has actually been sharply declining for most of the last 20 years. But this paranoia is a big part of what’s wrong with the average American police officer. Not all of them, of course – many, perhaps even most (although the jury’s still out) are intelligent, compassionate, reasonable, level-headed people. But their training – not to mention recruitment methods and philosophy – prepare them to face an America that is under siege from a powerful criminal element. This line of thinking has serious consequences for ordinary citizens who encounter police and has resulted in way too many outrageous, egregious instances of police using uncalled-for deadly violence. Deadly force voucher fraud. CopBlock. Alrighty then.
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#63. To: A K A Stone (#61)
When you say finally blowback it makes it sound like you justify it whether you do or not. Especially the word "finally". Just trying to shoot straight.
#64. To: Pinguinite (#63)
#65. To: Roscoe (#64)
#66. To: Pinguinite (#65)
#67. To: A K A Stone (#49)
[to Roscoe:] I understand this stuff justly angers you. However there is no reason enrage people with such unjust speculation. If you are honest with yourself you would admit what you said isn't true.
#68. To: Deckard (#35)
#69. To: ConservingFreedom (#67)
#70. To: Roscoe (#66)
"You're blathering."
#71. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#46)
I think people are talking past each other. Not able or willing to see the other sides valid points. We've been succesfully divided.
#72. To: misterwhite (#70)
#73. To: misterwhite (#70)
Not that there's a quota. But we're counting, anyways.
#74. To: Roscoe (#72)
"There should be a memorial built for the bomb squad robot."
#75. To: Roscoe (#69)
Your posts have more red flags than a Soviet military parade.
#76. To: ConservingFreedom (#75)
#77. To: Roscoe (#0)
" 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended "
#78. To: Roscoe (#76)
#79. To: ConservingFreedom (#78)
#80. To: Stoner (#77)
I have to wonder if Obunghole will use this to again promote " gun control / gun confiscation ", and / or to facilitate his bringing UN Troops to the US ?
#81. To: Roscoe (#80)
#82. To: Pinguinite (#63)
#83. To: Roscoe (#79)
now you're transparently begging for help.
#84. To: misterwhite (#36)
#85. To: A K A Stone (#82)
Like they finally got what was coming.
#86. To: redleghunter (#62)
(Edited)
The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.
#87. To: ConservingFreedom (#83)
#88. To: Pinguinite (#85)
IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia
#89. To: Roscoe (#88)
There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...
#90. To: goldilucky (#86)
exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.
#91. To: Pinguinite (#89)
#92. To: Roscoe (#90)
Upon further evaluation something is missing. We believe we have identified a very important missing element.
#93. To: Roscoe (#87)
Put some ice on it.
#94. To: goldilucky (#92)
Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera
#95. To: ConservingFreedom (#93)
#96. To: Deckard (#31)
#97. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#85)
IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#98. To: Deckard (#97)
#99. To: Roscoe (#98)
Typical leftist.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#100. To: Deckard (#99)
Former cop.
#101. To: Roscoe (#100)
Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#102. To: Deckard (#101)
investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.
he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.
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