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Title: 11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended
Source: NBC News
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news ... police-shootings-black-n605686
Published: Jul 8, 2016
Author: Phil Helsel
Post Date: 2016-07-08 00:22:19 by Roscoe
Keywords: None
Views: 14985
Comments: 155

Eleven Dallas law enforcement officers were shot, three fatally, by what is believed to be two snipers who opened fire during a demonstration downtown over recent police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, the Dallas police chief said.

The snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m., Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he said. Some were shot in the back.

Three of the 11 officers died, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition, Brown said.

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#93. To: Roscoe (#87)

Put some ice on it.

Yes, I've put you on ice - shame you haven't the wit to understand that.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-07-08   17:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: goldilucky (#92)

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera

No, that's not what the article said about the drug-dealing armed robber.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: ConservingFreedom (#93)

You're a legend in your own mind.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   18:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deckard (#31)

You don't really think they are shiny gold tooth gang-bang zoo animals, do ya?

lol

It was government hating extremist, like you that struck.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-08   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer.

Here's a former cop who agrees: How Police Training Contributes to Avoidable Deaths

In most police shootings, officers don’t shoot out of anger or frustration or hatred. They shoot because they are afraid. And they are afraid because they are constantly barraged with the message that that they should be afraid, that their survival depends on it.

Not only do officers hear it in formal training, they also hear it informally from supervisors and older officers. They talk about it with their peers. They see it on police forums and law enforcement publications.

For example, three of the four stories mentioned on the cover of this month’s Police Magazine are about dealing with threats to officer safety. Officers’ actions are grounded in their expectations, and they are taught to expect the worst.

Of course, others have written on the topic of police training, and many seem to agree that cops are trained to look at every encounter as a potentially lethal one.

It's the us vs them syndrome whereby cops are treating all citizens as criminals.

Peddling Paranoia (New Law enforcement officer training curriculum, critics say, creates a risky mindset)

Police training in US makes officers paranoid, fearful

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   18:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Deckard (#97)

Typical leftist.

"And of course, the unfair economic advantages of centuries of oppression were only being refined and entrenched , as Ta-Nehisi Coates has eloquently explained. So when urban black America was finally convulsed by the sort of violence that we would expect from anyone in the face of such vicious and unceasing abuse, many white Americans, the bulk of them probably apolitical, some of them supporters of the civil rights movement, were suddenly and decidedly afraid." -Seth Stroughton

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Roscoe (#98)

Typical leftist.

Former cop.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Deckard (#99)

Former cop.

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Roscoe (#100)

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Sounds like a cop to me.

And investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Of course, he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

Baseless paranoia about crime in America drives police violence

So long as it can be pretended that a police officer had reasonable suspicion his life was in danger, he can get away with anything.

I hope it’s unfair to accuse every cop who kills an unarmed, nonviolent citizen of having enjoyed doing it. But if the majority of them really do feel their lives are in peril, and that they need to act out in the most lethal manner possible, then there is something seriously wrong with their psychology.

To be that paranoid, that knee-jerk with lethal force, is uncalled for in the streets of America, where violent crime has actually been sharply declining for most of the last 20 years.

But this paranoia is a big part of what’s wrong with the average American police officer. Not all of them, of course – many, perhaps even most (although the jury’s still out) are intelligent, compassionate, reasonable, level-headed people.

But their training – not to mention recruitment methods and philosophy – prepare them to face an America that is under siege from a powerful criminal element.

This line of thinking has serious consequences for ordinary citizens who encounter police and has resulted in way too many outrageous, egregious instances of police using uncalled-for deadly violence.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Deckard (#101)

investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Deadly force voucher fraud.

he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   19:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Roscoe (#102)

Deadly force voucher fraud.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now its just a spring clean for the May Queen

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   19:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#103)

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

First line in your article:

"If you don’t already, you should follow CopBlock on Facebook."

[snigger]

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   20:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Roscoe (#104)

First line in your article:

Cop Block isn't the source for the article, they were linked in the story.

This internet thingie a little confusing for you?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   20:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Deckard (#105)

Cop Block isn't the source for the article

Squirmy. The article offered it as a source.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   21:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Roscoe (#106)

Getting a little tired of your games.

We're done here.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   21:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Deckard (#107)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   21:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Roscoe (#108)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Delusional as usual.

Effing troll.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-07-08   22:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Deckard (#109)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-07-08   22:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Deckard (#107)

We're done here.

You'll come crawling back for more punishment.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   22:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Deckard (#109)

Effing

See?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-08   22:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: buckeroo (#110)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

Sure is acting like one here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-08   23:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Roscoe (#94)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-07-09   2:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: goldilucky (#114)

But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

I read somewhere that Wisconsin police don't have body cams. At least not yet.

In comparison with the woman who in initially very stoic, the cop seems to be in a state of hysteria.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   3:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: goldilucky (#114)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded?

From the article that I posted that you read: "St. Anthony Police Officers don’t wear body cameras."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-09   6:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Pinguinite (#115)

"I read somewhere that Wisconsin police don't have body cams. At least not yet."

That may be true, but this took place in Minnesota.

Speaking of cameras, do you find it odd that she started recording after the shots? Could it be there's more video before the shots which would negate her story and justify the shooting?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   8:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Roscoe (#116)

I believe there was another officer on the passenger side of the car. I'd be interested in his story.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   8:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Roscoe (#90)

That looks like a fine upstanding citizen /SARC

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-07-09   9:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: misterwhite (#117)

That may be true, but this took place in Minnesota.

Then I'll amend to say the state where the incident took place does not have body cams for police.

Speaking of cameras, do you find it odd that she started recording after the shots?

No, it is not "odd" at all. Until shots were fired, there would have been minimal reason to record anything.

Could it be there's more video before the shots which would negate her story and justify the shooting?

The possibilities are endless, aren't they? Except that if the guy wanted to do a shootout with the cop who stopped him for a broken tail light with his 4 year old in the back seat, and his girlfriend in the passenger seat, he'd need a pretty good motive.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   10:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Pinguinite (#120)

"with his 4 year old in the back seat, and his girlfriend in the passenger seat"

From what I've read elsewhere, I'm not sure it's his 4-year-old or his girlfriend.

Be that as it may, certainly if she started recording as soon as they were pulled over -- and if her story was true -- it would be damning evidence against the police version of events, right? What possible good is a video after the shots were fired?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   11:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: misterwhite (#121)

certainly if she started recording as soon as they were pulled over -- and if her story was true -- it would be damning evidence against the police version of events, right?

Your powers of deduction are incredible.

What possible good is a video after the shots were fired?

Well it does show the cop in a state of hysteria, screaming and such, while she remained respectful and calm. It also shows the cop not seeking to administer first aid to try to save the guy, and not immediately calling for an ambulance.

All in all, the cop seems very...... paranoid.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   11:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Pinguinite (#122)

"All in all, the cop seems very...... paranoid."

It's not paranoia if they're really after you. If you're any example, this cop will be lucky if he keeps his job.

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   11:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: misterwhite (#123)

It's not paranoia if they're really after you. If you're any example, this cop will be lucky if he keeps his job.

Oh, he'll probably not be criminally penalized or fired, because there are no body cams or audio recordings to back up the woman's claim of events. He will be taken at his word that he told the guy not to reach for his license while her contradictory testimony will not be considered reliable.

AS for paranoia, it is a feeling of fear that others want to harm you, regardless of whether it is true or not. One can be justly paranoid. It's another word for you to learn about, after "mock".

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   12:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: misterwhite (#123)

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

You know a lot more about what happened at the scene than anyone else does. You must be very smart.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-09   12:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: misterwhite (#123)

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

And Newports.

And GoFundMe money.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-09   12:38:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Roscoe (#126) (Edited)

Ya ever notice it's just scumbags who primarily smoke now? There is a reason for everything. lol

Mother Nature at work. Maybe she can suck that Decktard cure-all up in her lungs, marijuana, to cure her lung cancer in a few years.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-09   12:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: GrandIsland (#127)

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-09   12:55:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Roscoe (#128)

"... and cartons of Newport cigarettes."

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   15:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Roscoe (#126)

"And GoFundMe money."

How much you give?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   15:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Roscoe (#128) (Edited)

Newports... the poison of many scumbags. I like it better when they dabble in heroin laced with Fentanyl. Just the thought of that gets me HIGH. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-09   15:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#124)

"He will be taken at his word that he told the guy not to reach for his license"

Whoa! Who said the cop asked for his license? Yeah. The girl.

Who said he told the cop he had a concealed carry license. Again. The girl.

Who said they were pulled over for a busted taillight? The girl. That's a lie and I suspect the other statements are also.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-09   16:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: misterwhite (#132)

Pingtard will believe ANYONE if they hate the Po-Po. Regardless of how ignorant and dysfuntional they are.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-07-09   16:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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