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Title: Comment on: Oakland Cops Uncover Dead Colleague's Fling With Underage Sex Worker …
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Liberty's Flame
URL Source: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46901
Published: Jul 2, 2016
Author: Packratt1145 and Gatlin
Post Date: 2016-07-02 06:12:55 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 5898
Comments: 35
Extract – Two (2) Posts by Packratt1145: I can understand how someone might possibly reach that conclusion based on the wording of the article posted here; however, that does not appear to be correct according to a report dated January 10, 2014. See http://oaklandlocal.com/2014/01/...ct-clear-channel-outdoor/ That report says, "Seven huge billboards were installed this week [meaning, the week of January 19, 2014] on Clear Channel properties on well-traveled highways and roads – the I-80 and 580 interchange, 980, Martin Luther King Boulevard – as a donation to the cause. 'Buying a teen for sex is child abuse. Turning a blind eye is neglect' reads another billboard." The article posted here says, "According to Guap, she and O'Brien began having sex in February 2015;" and, later, it adds, "Guap told the TV station that in September 2015, she celebrated her 18th birthday by traveling to Puerto Rico...;" and, that she began having sex with many cops other than O'Brien after that trip. So, if that is an accurate depiction of what Guap said; and, assuming what she said is factual, the placement of the signs in question could not have been a "response to the cops paying her for sex after she turned 18;" because, said signs had been in use since January of 2014. I also noticed the following statement by the author of the article posted here: "I don't mean to deny Guap's agency, but when your choices are have sex with someone or get thrown in jail... It might not be rape as we commonly think of it, but it's sure as hell—if nothing else—an abuse of authority. It's coercion. And it's a direct result of the criminalization of prostitution, a system that seems to benefit no one but corrupt cops and violent sex traffickers." In other words, if prostitution were legal, the potential for such choices would not exist and there would be no resulting abuse of authority and/or coercion. That is not the first time this author has expressed a favorable view toward legalizing prostitution (and drug use). In the article linked to below, she says, "Just to recap, the only reason sex workers and drug users need warrant excessive police intervention is because we have unnecessarily criminalized these people." See reason.com/blog/2016/06/1...ops-crackdown-on-sex-work In another article, she says, "...it's hard not to notice that the people we empower to sanction sexual deviance and protect others from sexual abuse are some of the worst perpetrators of sexual violence and exploitation. Sure, these bad actors might just be highly visible outliers; this is a big country with a whole lot of police officers who don't misbehave. But many of these cases coincide with otherwise problematic parts of our criminal justice system—the war on drugs, criminalization of prostitution, erosion of due process, the tendency of police departments and prosecutors to protect their own—and highlight how these flaws make it easier for corrupt cops to harass, intimidate, and abuse people, especially those in the most precarious social positions." See reason.com/blog/2016/06/1...al-violence-and-the-state Note that all emphasis in above quotes was added by me. She even wrote one entire article seemingly for the sole purpose of sarcastically belittling cops for arresting prostitutes... See reason.com/blog/2016/06/2...fficking-bust-ever-for-mc So, her [the author of this article] preference for legalizing prostitution as well as her prejudice against cops who arrest prostitutes in favor of the prostitutes themselves is pretty clear. That, along with her at least somewhat misrepresentation of the facts in the article posted here is enough to reasonably think she might have a conflict of interest and therefore might not be credible. [Boldness Added by Gatlin]. packrat1145 posted on 2016-07-01 22:54:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Four things therein stand out to me which lead to some interesting questions/speculation... First, before going to Puerto Rico, she was an underage whore in Oakland, California, a known hotbed of sex trafficking of underage girls; and, by the time she took her celebratory trip there, she had been whoring for at least a few years. How much rougher can any place in Puerto Rico be than what she was used to in Oakland; and, if such a place does exist there, didn't she have the street smarts to either be prepared to protect herself or to simply not go there alone? Second, she was in Puerto Rico. O'Brien was presumably approximately 3,000 miles away in Oakland, California. Exactly what did she expect him to do even IF she had managed to reach him by phone? Third, the way the article is written indicates that O'Brien and "several other OPD officers" were the only cops she was having sex with (actually, there were only four, including O'Brien) until after her trip to Puerto Rico. So, how did she have the phone number of that OPD commanding officer so conveniently handy while in Puerto Rico; unless, he was also one of her LEO regulars while still underage? Fourth, according to the way the article is written, ALL of those "several other OPD officers" were sexually active with the same underage whore who apparently chose to call only O'Brien for help and subsequently threatened only him for not responding. However, exposing him, would likely lead to all of them being exposed (at least some of them were in fact exposed); and, when she sent the text to the commanding officer who was also likely to have been involved with her (again, how else did she so conveniently have his phone number?), he would know he was probably going to be exposed, too; UNLESS, O'Brien was termina..., I mean, committed suicide... OR... The age of consent in California just happens to be 18. In the above article, Guap hinted that O'Brien may have gotten a little too possessive of her; and, more evidence of that can be found here: http://abc7news.com/news/i-team-...scandal-revealed/1404428/ Did he decide that since she had become "legal," he wanted her all for himself and felt safe enough to ask her to marry him? Bring overly possessive of her, he would probably also be insanely jealous of her other LEO regulars; and, if she refused his proposal, he may have been the one who threatened to blow the whistle on the whole sorry affair; including, her and all of her other LEO regulars. Was that the real reason she took off to Puerto Rico and called O'Brien's commanding officer from there; and, did that OPD commanding officer "fix the problem himself?" Is that the reason he apparently still remains unnamed and uncharged? If Guap just wanted to celebrate her 18th birthday, there are a lot of places a lot closer to Oakland, CA than Puerto Rico; but, if you're running away from something, anywhere 3,000 miles away is an excellent place to be... I think there is probably more to this story than we're being told by the girl or this author... [Boldness Added by Gatlin]. packrat1145 posted on 2016-07-02 1:15:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Comment by Gatlin:: I am criticized for sometime posting information from Huffington Post (HP) on LF. There is openly stated prejudice against HP because of their overtly liberal commentary and I understand this. I have responded to the chastisement for occasionally using HP as a source by stating: “Facts are facts, wherever you can find them.” The limited-learning individuals who so quickly condemn HP fail to realize that HP was among the first, and probably the very first, of the alternatives news aggregators to expose and tear into those originating and propagating the concocted UV gang rape story. I find it happing more often than not that journalists are taking advantage of the weak-minded but seemingly educated readers who apparently do not wish to expend the energy or have no stamina to face a personal responsibility to get the facts … before they quickly rush to judgments or make snap decisions and post those on LF based solely on biased information and sometimes outright lies. When I read these YJ articles for understanding and critical analysis, I always approach from the “other side” expecting to discover discrepancies … as I feel Packrat has so complementary done is his two posts. For my efforts, I was recently tagged with “Searcher of Truth” as a moniker. I accept the “left-handed compliment” and now wear the new title proudly as I continue to find this aggressive agenda setting is rapidly becoming the “modus operandi” for young journalists. I place blame on these authors of YJ for doing this. I place more blame on the readers who do not question the narrative piece containing partial data and one-sided information reported only from those who have a vested personal interest in the story and possible financial reward from an obviously impending law suit. How seemingly educated folks can so quickly go after the cheese in these JY article mousetraps the authors applying the AST set for them with partial-facts and sometimes fabricated information is quite puzzling. I fail to understand their reasoning, but I always find they’ll scream louder that it’s the “moral (agenda) of the story” and not the validity of the story itself that deserves utmost attention. That there are a few bad cops, regardless whether there is truth or not in the current story they are reading, is enough justification for them to tear into the keyboard and start their condemnation process. It is so cult-nature predictable. Maybe there is hope that some day these individual will take on skepticism and simply stop placing full belief in YJ stories and thereby leave room for all YJ articles to become happenings with the “boy who cried wolf” results. #43. To: misterwhite (#7)
The sign was posted in response to the cops paying her for sex after she turned 18.
#44. To: Deckard, misterwhite, Pinguinite, Gatlin, nativist nationalist (#0)
Excerpt from the article: "Guap told the TV station that in September 2015, she celebrated her 18th birthday by traveling to Puerto Rico, where she found herself alone in a "rough area" and called O'Brien for help. He didn't pick up. She threatened to expose him for sleeping with her when she was still 17 and, when he still didn't respond, she did it, sending a text to a commanding officer at OPD detailing her relationship with O'Brien and several other OPD officers. She then sent a screenshot of the text to O'Brien."
It is unfortunate that the extended use of the Agenda-Setting Theory (AST) -- which I refer to as Yellow Journalism (YJ) -- has become too prevalent in the communications media. Many journalists have decided their job is to set the agenda instead of using the old fashion time-proven journalistic method of reporting “who, what, where, when, why and sometimes how.” This YJ is fast become the norm and we need look no further than the recent University of Virginia (UV) gang rape story for evidence of this. The YJ articles never connect all the dots to accurately report the facts.
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#10. To: Gatlin (#0)
Have we ruled out the very distinct possiblility that a prostitute, facing arrest, would offer sex as a means to avoid it? I would guess that a prostitute would offer sex to get out of a speeding ricket or a shoplifting charge -- meaning the illegality of prostitution has nothing to do with it.
Daenerys Targaryen meets Miss Piggy.
More like Daenerys Targaryen meets Tyrion Lannister. Her shoulder only comes up to the door handle.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"but when your choices are have sex with someone or get thrown in jail... It might not be rape as we commonly think of it, but it's sure as hell—if nothing else—an abuse of authority."
#11. To: misterwhite (#10)
#14. To: Roscoe (#11)
"Daenerys Targaryen meets Miss Piggy."
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