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Title: Oakland Cops Uncover Dead Colleague's Fling With Underage Sex Worker, Make Sure to Get Her Number for Themselves
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Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2016/06/29/ ... ex-trafficking-when-cops-do-it
Published: Jun 29, 2016
Author: Elizabeth Nolan Brown
Post Date: 2016-07-01 09:53:13 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 10027
Comments: 49
The young woman at the center of a scandal shaking multiple California police departments has revealed new and damning facts about the situation. Celeste Guap, 18, claims to have had sex with more than 30 Bay Area police officers in exchange for cash, tips about upcoming prostitution stings, and protection from prosecution. Things allegedly started when she was still a minor and met Oakland officer Brendan O'Brien in the course of fleeing an abusive pimp. According to Guap, she and O'Brien began having sex in February 2015. "We [would] tell each other you're my only, you know, like that, but he knew what it was," she told ABC 7 in a recent interview. O'Brien's wife had died the previous year in what had been ruled a suicide but some suspected O'Brien of being involved in. Guap told the TV station that in September 2015, she celebrated her 18th birthday by traveling to Puerto Rico, where she found herself alone in a "rough area" and called O'Brien for help. He didn't pick up. She threatened to expose him for sleeping with her when she was still 17 and, when he still didn't respond, she did it, sending a text to a commanding officer at OPD detailing her relationship with O'Brien and several other OPD officers. She then sent a screenshot of the text to O'Brien. A few hours later, O'Brien committed suicide. "Guap appears to have some guilt about this, and perhaps some anger toward the dozens of other officers who contacted her for sex over the ensuing months," SFist reports. I don't know about you, but if my colleague had killed himself after being threatened with exposure by a teen sex worker, my impulse would be, at least, to avoid her. OPD officers, however, thought otherwise. Not only did those alerted to O'Brien and Guap's relationship not report it, they began allegedly contacting Guap—the daughter of an OPD dispatcher—for sex themselves. Guap said she eventually began sleeping with cops from neighboring areas, too, including Alameda County and San Francisco. She turned over an array of cell phone records to various departments to corroborate her claims. Since these allegations came out, two OPD officers resigned and three more were placed on administrative leave pending investigation. The Alameda County Sheriff's Office investigated four offiers, but determined that because Guap was 18 at the time they slept with her and they did not pay her in cash, no wrongdoing was involved. In total, Guap claims to have slept with 32 members of local law enforcement, although she claims only three paid her. The rest she slept with for information and protection from arrest, said Guap, who mostly did street-based sex work. I don't mean to deny Guap's agency, but when your choices are have sex with someone or get thrown in jail... It might not be rape as we commonly think of it, but it's sure as hell—if nothing else—an abuse of authority. It's coercion. And it's a direct result of the criminalization of prostitution, a system that seems to benefit no one but corrupt cops and violent sex traffickers. While all of this was happening with Guap, the Oakland and Alameda County police departments were very public crusaders against prostitution. In the first six months of 2014, Oakland police made 295 arrests related to prostitution and conducted 30 prostitution stings. "We don't have a lot of resources," said OPD Luitenenant Kevin Wiley at the time. "But the ones we have, we dedicate 110 percent." The city even ran billboards featuring the mugshots of men who were arrested for attempting to pay for sex. Another series of recent Oakland city billboards featured slogans such as: "Buying a teen for sex is child abuse. Turning a blind eye is neglect." "Buying a teen for sex is child abuse," warned Oakland city billboards as its police force passed around a teenager for sex.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
An 18-year-old "teen" selling sex is not "street-based sex work". It's prostitution. Turning a blind eye is neglect.
Only you would defend cops that do this.
Maybe the cops were all libertarians. What is the Libertarian party's stance on the statutory rape laws? True mixed age relationships seem weird & kinda wrong but it's okay for a 80 year old to have sex with a 18 year old so why cant it be okay for a 14-17 year old to willingly have sex with a adult? It's okay for a old man to take home a drunk 18 year old girl & sleep with her but it's not okay for a 15-16 year old guy to willingly have sex with a pretty 20 year old girl. Why is it okay for a old person to have sex with a drunk 18 year old but its not okay for a teenage minor to willingly have sex with a young adult? Anyways I was wondering if the other Libertarians agree with me. Do other Libertarians agree with my views? Does the Libertarian party support reforming the age of consent/statutory rape laws? do they support having a double standard with the age of consent laws where they only apply to girls but boys can have sex with adult women? If you completely agree with the current statutory rape laws then you are no libertarian, you are a draconian fascist.
Has it been proven cops did this? ... "CLAIMS" ...
I don't defend anyone who engages in prostitution. The sign was intentionally misleading. She was 18 and selling sex. That's prostitution, not "child" abuse.
Apparently she was underage when it began. If nothing else this demonstrates the blatant hypocrisy practiced by this and most other police departments - laws are only for the serfs. Who says? Oh yeah. She said that. And we know prostitutes never lie. The sign was posted in response to the cops paying her for sex after she turned 18. "If nothing else this demonstrates the blatant hypocrisy practiced by this and most other police departments - laws are only for the serfs." If nothing else this demonstrates blatant hypocrisy -- yours. You're the big defender of consensual sex between adults. But not for everyone, huh?
LOL! Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
Learn to read:
No, they were far more likely either democrats or republicans.
The crap you reposted is not the official LP platform, but instead the opinion of a single person. BTW, are you a Democrat or Republican? I want to find some similar crap stated by someone from your party. I'll have an easier task than you. If you are serious about critiquing the official LP platform, here's a link: www.lp.org/files/2016%20LP%20Platform%20.pdf As in relates to the subject of this thread: Don't engage in libel, Gatlin. It's poor form.
And we know cops don't commit suicide when falsely accused, either.
So you're saying that's when the sign went up?
So you're saying that's when the sign went up? Are you saying that once a sexually exploited minor becomes an adult, the crime of that exploitation expires?
It's hardly consensual when an armed agent of the state threatens a woman with arrest if she doesn't put out. I'm saying that once a sexually exploited minor becomes an adult, you don't put up a sign calling her a child.
So you've ruled out any possibility that she offered sex in exchange for being let go?
So noted. With that settled, do you defend the actions of cops when they have sex with minors?
I don't defend the actions of any adult, male or female, when they have sex with children.
Very good. But the topic was about cops having sex with minors, and I note your response doesn't mention cops. Are cops excluded from this rule, or included?
Since I said any adult, that would include cops, firemen, priests, teachers, parents, relatives, neighbors and strangers.
Thanks for saying so. I'm guessing that was difficult for you. Well done.
You stated: "Only you [misterwhite] would defend cops that do this." I then asked you: "Has it been proven cops did this?" I noted for you that the article is based entirely on "claims" by Guap ... I repeat, "claims." I can't find where you responded to my post. Therefore, I will continue and now as: Have you ever tried not to pass judgement on something or someone when you don’t have the facts? I realize this can be very difficult for some people. Because it’s the almost human nature for some folks to form an instant solidifying opinion, and make a snap judgment, about almost everything without stopping to consider what they are opining about and judging on may be a lie.
A few hours later, O'Brien committed suicide. "Guap appears to have some guilt about this, and perhaps some anger toward the dozens of other officers who contacted her for sex over the ensuing months," I'd contend that the cop committing suicide before the truth came out about his "relationship" with Guap would be compelling evidence that she's telling the truth. O'Brien's wife had died the previous year in what had been ruled a suicide but some suspected O'Brien of being involved in. But then again, it's possible that he killed his wife and felt guilty about that. Or a combination of the two. Attaboy! I don't know about you, but if my colleague had killed himself after being threatened with exposure by a teen sex worker, my impulse would be, at least, to avoid her. OPD officers, however, thought otherwise. Not only did those alerted to O'Brien and Guap's relationship not report it, they began allegedly contacting Guap—the daughter of an OPD dispatcher—for sex themselves. Guap said she eventually began sleeping with cops from neighboring areas, too, including Alameda County and San Francisco. She turned over an array of cell phone records to various departments to corroborate her claims. Let’s take time to notice how this “agenda driven author” carefully lays out a planned sequence wording to process and channel a reader’s thoughts in his attention getting opener. The author in his opening sentence lays out his strongest “hammer blow to a reader’s brain” and then “hits him or her between the eyes” by saying the young woman has revealed NEW and DAMING facts. Zap … Zap … Zap!!! The author now has some gullible folks hooked and they will “read over” the wording in the next sentence showing “claims” and the third sentence showing “allegedly” because they have already mentally convicted some cops and cannot wait to jump on the thread and start posting blanket condemnations. Gawd, I hate yellow journalism authors and despise those who take author’s agenda bait “hook, line and sinker.”
How do you know they were having anything to do with her? Oh, of course ... she "claims" they did, so you know they did. Got it!!!
Oh, shit ... there is that "word" again. Quickly, now ... all cop-haters mentally block that "word" from your mind.
Can you find any post where I concluded the cop was guilty? Passing judgement on the act of cops having sex with minors is not the same thing. In fact, we apparently agree that that's wrong, embarrassing as that might be for you to be in agreement with a libertarian about something. I don't know if the cop was guilty or not, but people who are falsely accused of a crime generally don't respond by killing themselves. His suicide, if that's what it was, serves somewhat as a confession of guilt. True. You seem to be speaking from experience.
If it is "possible that he did something" ... is it not "possible that he did not?" Shhh ... let's don't confuse the minds of the cop=haters.
You are switching the discussion from a positive form (meaning the article is a positive because it exists, not the information in it is positive) and generalize in the abstract. If that is what you are doing, then I can of course agree with your open ended “generalized” statement. BOOM … BAM … BOOM! We are absolutely in total agreement on this point. Ah, but wait for the qualifier … I know it is coming. You indicated earlier that you have not concluded the cop was guilty, and I agreed that you had not. But at this point, I ask: Are you now making an assumptive judgment of guilt with your “somewhat” confession olf guilt statement?” It does appear that you are. If not, then what are you saying? [Pinguinite]: True. You seem to be speaking from experience.
He killed himself. Can you see any other reason why he did that? Oh, shit ... there is that "word" again. Oh - the "cell phone records (she turned over to) various departments to corroborate her claims" are "alleged? Why did he kill himself? Quickly, now ... all cop-haters Seems to me the cop worshipers are doing what they always do - defend a corrupt cop and the rest of the scumbags who were involved in a criminal, sordid incident. From the article : Since these allegations came out, two OPD officers resigned and three more were placed on administrative leave pending investigation. Let me guess - the two who resigned just suddenly felt the need to quit and the ones under investigation are innocent victims. Is that how you see it? He had inoperable cancer? Diagnosed with AIDS? Owed money to the mob? What did the suicide note say? He did leave one, right? I mean, if it really was a suicide.
I am an “Unaffiliated Conservative Voter.” Some folks like to say that means I am an “Independent Voter” … but I hate the “Independent” portion of the term, because what I vote on or whom I vote for is “dependent” on any number of strict considerations. Because I am a child of the depression born in the South, that is a starting point I can attribute it to, I hold closely to traditional conservative attitudes and values while viewing change and innovation with caution … especially in politics and religion. I embrace some aspects of the Republican Philosophy, the “sane” parts of the Libertarian Philosophy and none of the Democrat Philosophy that I can think of at this time. I have been described by those associated with me as “being objective to a fault.” I read and listen to all source of information from all sides of the political spectrum, for which I am often criticized for doing so while posting some of the liberal articles here. There have been “attempts” to ostracize me to Antarctica for reading and posting articles from SPLC by some narrow-minded individual who are closed-loop thinkers. One of the many things I learned during the year I spent at the USAF Air Command and Staff College (the second highest command and leadership school in the Air Force where only the top 10% of USAF officers are selected to attend) was to “know your enemy.” One of my favorite self-motivational phrases I use is from the move Patton where George C. Scott as Patton said during a tank battle: “Rommel...you magnificent bastard, I read your book!" I kinda vented here, but it was for a good cause … I wanted to give you all background (sans any personal information) you should have available to make your task of provoking me with “similar crap” as easy as possible for you. After all, I am a considerate person and full of empathy for those who strive to do a perfect job. I trust this information will be of some help to you and I wish you well. Good Day, Sir.
No. Until I find "factual reasons" ... unlike you, I will make no assumptions that are strictly hate motivated.
There are six commonly listed reasons a person commits suicide. I don't know which of those reasons caused his suicide ... neither do you? Stop with the "subtle" innuendos ... stay with facts. If facts are not available ... stop speculating.
I prefer that you do not. why do you have an overpowering urgent need to "guess" anything? Why can't you simply look for, or wait until the facts come out ... why?
No, and neither can you see the reason he did that. It is a shame that you continue to engage in uncontrolled speculation. This insatiable desire is probably the reason you are a die hard CT freak.
It's not the posting of articles from leftist sites that are a problem - it's the fact that you agree with the crap they post. The most recent example is the HuffPo "libertarians suck" screed that you posted. Oh, and who can forget you siding with the SPLC when you posted numerous anti-Ron Paul pieces and leftist propaganda condemning patriots penned by that reprehensible organization and stinking up Liberty Post in the process. Don't try and pretend you're objective - no one here is going to believe you. No, and neither can you see the reason he did that. Yeah - just a coincidence that he decided to do it right before he was going to be exposed. Seriously man? Un-freaking believable.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"Buying a teen for sex is child abuse. Turning a blind eye is neglect."
#2. To: misterwhite (#1)
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
I am a Libertarian & I am against the statutory rape laws. I think it is evil to arrest women for having sex with guys that are almost grown men. I understand arresting middle aged men for having sex with little kids but arresting adults for having sex with teens is just evil. Those laws are especially evil when a minor gets charged with statutory rape for example a 16 year old with a 12 or 13 year old.
#4. To: Pinguinite (#2)
(Edited)
Only you would defend cops that do this.
Celeste Guap, 18, claims to have had ...
#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)
"Only you would defend cops that do this."
#6. To: misterwhite (#5)
She was 18 and selling sex. That's prostitution, not "child" abuse.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
"Apparently she was underage when it began."
#8. To: Gatlin (#3)
Maybe the cops were all libertarians.
#9. To: misterwhite (#5)
The sign was intentionally misleading. She was 18 and selling sex. That's prostitution, not "child" abuse.
Things allegedly started when she was still a minor and met Oakland officer Brendan O'Brien in the course of fleeing an abusive pimp.
#10. To: Gatlin (#3)
Maybe the cops were all libertarians.
#11. To: Gatlin (#3)
1.4 Personal Relationships
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Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
1.6 Parental Rights
Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs. This statement shall not be construed to condone child abuse or neglect.
#12. To: misterwhite (#7)
Who says? Oh yeah. She said that. And we know prostitutes never lie.
#13. To: Pinguinite (#9)
"Things allegedly started when she was still a minor and met Oakland officer Brendan O'Brien in the course of fleeing an abusive pimp."
#14. To: misterwhite (#13)
#15. To: misterwhite (#7)
You're the big defender of consensual sex between adults.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)
"Are you saying that once a sexually exploited minor becomes an adult, the crime of that exploitation expires?"
#17. To: Deckard (#15)
"It's hardly consensual when an armed agent of the state threatens a woman with arrest if she doesn't put out."
#18. To: misterwhite (#16)
I'm saying that once a sexually exploited minor becomes an adult, you don't put up a sign calling her a child.
#19. To: Pinguinite (#18)
"With that settled, do you defend the actions of cops when they have sex with minors?"
#20. To: misterwhite (#19)
I don't defend the actions of any adult, male or female, when they have sex with children.
#21. To: Pinguinite (#20)
"Are cops excluded from this rule, or included?"
#22. To: misterwhite (#21)
Since I said any adult, that would include cops...
#23. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#4)
#24. To: Gatlin, Pinguinite, misterwhite (#23)
She threatened to expose him for sleeping with her when she was still 17 and, when he still didn't respond, she did it, sending a text to a commanding officer at OPD detailing her relationship with O'Brien and several other OPD officers. She then sent a screenshot of the text to O'Brien.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#25. To: Gatlin (#23)
I noted for you that the article is based entirely on "claims" by Guap ... I repeat, "claims."
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#26. To: All (#23)
The young woman at the center of a scandal shaking multiple California police departments has revealed new and damning facts about the situation. Celeste Guap, 18, claims to have had sex with more than 30 Bay Area police officers in exchange for cash, tips about upcoming prostitution stings, and protection from prosecution. Things allegedly started when she was still a minor and met Oakland officer Brendan O'Brien in the course of fleeing an abusive pimp.
#27. To: Deckard (#25)
I don't know about you, but if my colleague had killed himself after being threatened with exposure by a teen sex worker, my impulse would be, at least, to avoid her.
#28. To: Deckard (#25)
"allegedly"
#29. To: Gatlin (#23)
I noted for you that the article is based entirely on "claims" by Guap ... I repeat, "claims."
I can't find where you responded to my post.
I realize this can be very difficult for some people. Because it’s the almost human nature for some folks to form an instant solidifying opinion, and make a snap judgment, about almost everything without stopping to consider what they are opining about and judging on may be a lie.
#30. To: Deckard (#24)
But then again, it's possible ...
#31. To: Pinguinite (#29)
Can you find any post where I concluded the cop was guilty?
Nope. Passing judgement on the act of cops having sex with minors is not the same thing. In fact, we apparently agree that that's wrong, embarrassing as that might be for you to be in agreement with a libertarian about something.
I don't know if the cop was guilty or not …
… but people who are falsely accused of a crime generally don't respond by killing themselves. His suicide, if that's what it was, serves somewhat as a confession of guilt.
[Gatlin]: I realize this can be very difficult for some people. Because it’s the almost human nature for some folks to form an instant solidifying opinion, and make a snap judgment, about almost everything without stopping to consider what they are opining about and judging on may be a lie.
Yea, it was somewhat difficult for me … until I attained the age of 6. I then decided that it was not smart to form an instant solidifying opinion and make a snap judgment. Consequently, I am now devoting time and effort to convince those who consider themselves to be “mature educated adults” to stop making snap judgments on something that may be a lie.
#32. To: Gatlin (#30)
If it is "possible that he did something" ... is it not "possible that he did not?"
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#33. To: Gatlin (#28)
(Edited)
"allegedly"
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#34. To: Deckard (#32)
"He killed himself. Can you see any other reason why he did that?"
#35. To: Pinguinite (#11)
BTW, are you a Democrat or Republican? I want to find some similar crap stated by someone from your party. I'll have an easier task than you.
#36. To: Deckard (#33)
(Edited)
Is that how you see it?
#37. To: Deckard (#33)
Why did he kill himself?
#38. To: Deckard (#33)
Let me guess ..'
#39. To: Deckard (#32)
He killed himself. Can you see any other reason why he did that?
#40. To: Gatlin (#35)
I read and listen to all source of information from all sides of the political spectrum, for which I am often criticized for doing so while posting some of the liberal articles here.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#41. To: Gatlin (#39)
He killed himself. Can you see any other reason why he did that?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
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