When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]
Did the Democrats ever formally do that with slavery?
I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed.
That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.
So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment.
Actually, no. Unlike the R's and D's who seem to base their platform on whatever the other party isn't supporting -- kind of like how neigborhood kids choose teamates when about to play baseball -- the L platform is generally based on the principles of what positions allow everyone an equal amount of maximum freedom. As with any ideology, the works of the originators are revised over time by better minds, and/or lessons learned from practical application.
BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
An excellent question. But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin. He posted an opinion about how statutory rape laws should be repealed:
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you.
I'll ask again: When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders?
I suspect your will reply will be just as craven as before.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you.
Now you're being totally stupid and asinine.
Secret change? Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform. You don't even have to be a libertarian to get it. Isn't that incredible?
Periodically, it is updated / changed with additions and such.
You are rapidly proving yourself to be not worth responding to.
Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform.
And there's no repudiation of the longstanding principles of the Libertarian founders there, which is why you offer craven disingenuous insinuation instead of quotes.
BTW - 2016:
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors...
Our silence about any other particular government law, regulation, ordinance, directive, edict, control, regulatory agency, activity, or machination should not be construed to imply approval.
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor.
Oh, like that's a bad thing?
We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution.
Did you see these police state advocates attempt to break the thread? They are beyond all else, foul, illerate back-wood's hicks.
There was nothing of the kind to see. Your perception is cloudy, stay off that putrid shit. What you will see if you become level headed after you stop puffing the stuff long enough, are a few highly intelligent individuals intervene to energize a drowning and painfully failing exercise of attempted libertarian ego-fluffing where no one was showing sny interest in believing that libertarians are awesome. The Intelligence Squad actually saved the thread. The thread needed to be made good and spicy, the interveners saved a couple of libertarians playing ditto-heads from being boring.
And there's no repudiation of the longstanding principles of the Libertarian founders there, which is why you offer craven disingenuous insinuation instead of quotes.
Exacty what "longstanding principles" do you think libertarians of today should repudiate?
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors...
Uh, yes. Repeal of the income tax is in the LP platform. Should I infer from your citation that you think Libertarians want to repeal all taxation? If so....
The personal income tax is only one of an enormous number of federal taxes that the fed gov is the recipient of. Did you know that if personal income taxes were excluded from the federal budget, the fed gov would have the same amount of revenue that it had about 15 years ago? As I recall, the fed gov wasn't exactly living under a bridge 15 years ago.
From Ron Paul. And while not all agree on his philosophies, there's no argument he's knowledgeable about economic facts on the fed gov:
We could eliminate the income tax, replace it with nothing, and still fund the same level of big government we had in the late 1990s.
A slave living on a plantation was allowed to keep some of the efforts of his labor. The rest was "taxed" by the slave owner. Can you articulate the difference between a slave taxed on his labor and a modern worker taxed on his? If so, you'll be the first I've encountered.
Some taxes are required. A personal income tax is not.
Man up and admit you were trounced.
It's more appropriate for you to admit you are clueless about what libertarians stand for. You are really embarrassing yourself.