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Title: Libertarians are Awesome
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Published: Jul 1, 2016
Author: Me
Post Date: 2016-07-01 03:00:22 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 12712
Comments: 77

Just a friendly reminder... Thanks for reading!

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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-01   4:34:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Roscoe (#1)

You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-01   10:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#5)

"You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian."

You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-01   14:00:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#17)

You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.

You obviously have zero reading comprehension.

Roscoe posted an image that reads:

No taxes. No Government. No Regulation. Libertarian Paradise.

Those 3 elements are not libertarian. They are anarchist.

Libertarians DO recognize the need for taxes, government and regulation.

Ergo, Roscoe has echoed the same ignorance about the difference between L's and A's as the author of the image.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-01   14:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite (#18)

Those 3 elements are not libertarian.

I suspect you're too dishonest to retract your ignorant falsehood.

Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972

[N]o individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government...

Specifically, we support the eventual repeal of all taxation...

In those areas where individual rights or voluntary relations are not involved, we support an immediate reduction of government's present role, and ultimately, a total withdrawal of government intervention

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-01   15:14:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Roscoe (#21)

Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972

Shall we also post evidence of how the Democrat party supports the right to own slaves?

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.

russp.us/racism.htm

1972 was, I believe, the birth date of the official Libertarian party, and the philosophy codified was certainly done by only a few people with very minimal review for catching things like excluding minors from the text you quote (assuming the quote is accurate). Certainly the intent was that the passage referring to relationships pertain only to adults, not children. As much as paedophilia is despised today, I think it could only be more so in 1972. But if YOU are honest, you'll reference the current Libertarian party platform instead of citing something that his 44 years old. In fact, I already have in the quote that limits such relationships to adults. The objection to the initiation of force does carry through today. Libertarians are opposed to it. I suppose wantonly attacking other countries as has been the ongoing practice of both R's and D's over the past 30 years is seen by you as very pro-American. Whatever floats your boat.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-01   15:52:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)

When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]

I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed. So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment. So much for John Hospers.

BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-01   16:10:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Roscoe, Gatlin (#24)

When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]

Did the Democrats ever formally do that with slavery?

I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed.

That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.

So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment.

Actually, no. Unlike the R's and D's who seem to base their platform on whatever the other party isn't supporting -- kind of like how neigborhood kids choose teamates when about to play baseball -- the L platform is generally based on the principles of what positions allow everyone an equal amount of maximum freedom. As with any ideology, the works of the originators are revised over time by better minds, and/or lessons learned from practical application.

BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?

An excellent question. But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin. He posted an opinion about how statutory rape laws should be repealed:

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=46901&Disp=3#C3

Granted it's not his opinion, but he brought it up, erroneously promoting a post by a supposed libertarian as official libertarian doctrine.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-07-02   2:33:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#40)

That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.

You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you.

I'll ask again: When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders?

I suspect your will reply will be just as craven as before.

But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin.
Paging misterwhite...

Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-02   4:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Roscoe (#41)

"Paging misterwhite..."

mumfff ... huh? Yes? You woke me from a sound sleep. This better be good.

Pinguinite? You can handle him. I'm going back to bed.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-07-02   10:19:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: misterwhite, Roscoe (#43)

"Paging misterwhite..."

mumfff ... huh? Yes? You woke me from a sound sleep. This better be good.

Pinguinite? You can handle him. I'm going back to bed.

He is such a lightweight, Roscoe is handling him triumphantly,

Not to be taken as meaning that Roscoe couldn't handle a heavyweight just as easily. I have confidence is his ability to do just as well.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-07-02   11:24:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Roscoe  posted on  2016-07-02   11:31:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#52. To: Roscoe (#50)

That's funny ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-07-02 11:39:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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