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Title: Libertarians are Awesome
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Published: Jul 1, 2016
Author: Me
Post Date: 2016-07-01 03:00:22 by Pinguinite
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#5. To: Roscoe (#1)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns. You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot? Fascinating.
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian. Looks like you had a posting fubar.
The ignorance continues when they claim that libertarians are both liberals and anarchists. They can't seem to gasp the concept that the two are polar opposites - modern liberals are in favor of MORE government, anarchists - none. If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do. True. Both want big government control of life. How does that saying go? A conservative doesn't know the difference between a sin and a crime, and a liberal doesn't know the difference between charity and robbery.
Nope.
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
You obviously have zero reading comprehension. Roscoe posted an image that reads: No taxes. No Government. No Regulation. Libertarian Paradise. Those 3 elements are not libertarian. They are anarchist. Libertarians DO recognize the need for taxes, government and regulation. Ergo, Roscoe has echoed the same ignorance about the difference between L's and A's as the author of the image.
Some Libertarians express their beliefs in extremes. It is their expressions which largely form the public image. Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image. This from Gary Johnson and Bill Weld is a good start -- if people get to see it.
I remember when I was a teenager and I first heard about libertarianism, for whatever reason the impression I got was that it advocated no government and no taxes whatsoever. Essentially confusing it with anarchism, which I came to understand much later in my life was an active philosophy. So yes, the difference does need to be publicized. I agree the confusion is likely still a widespread problem, as evidenced here on LF.
I suspect you're too dishonest to retract your ignorant falsehood. Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972 Specifically, we support the eventual repeal of all taxation... In those areas where individual rights or voluntary relations are not involved, we support an immediate reduction of government's present role, and ultimately, a total withdrawal of government intervention
His mix of ignorance and dishonesty resists separation.
Shall we also post evidence of how the Democrat party supports the right to own slaves? 1972 was, I believe, the birth date of the official Libertarian party, and the philosophy codified was certainly done by only a few people with very minimal review for catching things like excluding minors from the text you quote (assuming the quote is accurate). Certainly the intent was that the passage referring to relationships pertain only to adults, not children. As much as paedophilia is despised today, I think it could only be more so in 1972. But if YOU are honest, you'll reference the current Libertarian party platform instead of citing something that his 44 years old. In fact, I already have in the quote that limits such relationships to adults. The objection to the initiation of force does carry through today. Libertarians are opposed to it. I suppose wantonly attacking other countries as has been the ongoing practice of both R's and D's over the past 30 years is seen by you as very pro-American. Whatever floats your boat.
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets] I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed. So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment. So much for John Hospers. BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
William F. Buckley smoked weed, proving that you're one of those pothead Republicans, and a heroin addict! Pothead Republicans Buckley was a cuck. Like you!
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
It's like the Libertarian Constitution.
Yeah, that wacky Republican journalist. Hey! Wait a minute ...
The Libertarian political party has NOTHING to do with libertarian principles other than in name only. Any attempt to demonstrate equivocation is pure idiocy. Roscoe is a pure idiot, therefore.
Here, let me help. Can you see the difference now, Roscoe?
More childish, inaccurate cartoons. What a loser! Libertarians, like their close cousins, the SJWs and cucks, always double down on their falsehoods and never man up.
Yeah, look close, neither have balls.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
More juvenile pictures. No wonder the sane people here laugh at you and your ignorant ilk. Stop. You'll make Deckard cry again.
Post some more cartoons so everyone can see what an idiot you are. That seems to be the limits of your debating "skills". Cry yourself to sleep.
Did the Democrats ever formally do that with slavery? That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that. Actually, no. Unlike the R's and D's who seem to base their platform on whatever the other party isn't supporting -- kind of like how neigborhood kids choose teamates when about to play baseball -- the L platform is generally based on the principles of what positions allow everyone an equal amount of maximum freedom. As with any ideology, the works of the originators are revised over time by better minds, and/or lessons learned from practical application. An excellent question. But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin. He posted an opinion about how statutory rape laws should be repealed: libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=46901&Disp=3#C3 Granted it's not his opinion, but he brought it up, erroneously promoting a post by a supposed libertarian as official libertarian doctrine.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you. I'll ask again: When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? I suspect your will reply will be just as craven as before.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you. Now you're being totally stupid and asinine. Secret change? Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform. You don't even have to be a libertarian to get it. Isn't that incredible? Periodically, it is updated / changed with additions and such. You are rapidly proving yourself to be not worth responding to.
mumfff ... huh? Yes? You woke me from a sound sleep. This better be good. Pinguinite? You can handle him. I'm going back to bed.
And there's no repudiation of the longstanding principles of the Libertarian founders there, which is why you offer craven disingenuous insinuation instead of quotes. BTW - 2016: Our silence about any other particular government law, regulation, ordinance, directive, edict, control, regulatory agency, activity, or machination should not be construed to imply approval. Man up and admit you were trounced.
My apologies.
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#6. To: Gatlin (#4)
#7. To: Roscoe (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#9. To: Pinguinite (#6)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#10. To: Pinguinite (#5)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#11. To: hondo68 (#7)
#12. To: Deckard (#8)
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns.
#13. To: Roscoe (#10)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#14. To: Pinguinite (#12)
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#15. To: Deckard (#14)
If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do.
#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)
Looks like you had a posting fubar.
#17. To: Pinguinite (#5)
"You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian."
#18. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
#19. To: Pinguinite (#12)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#20. To: nolu chan (#19)
Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image.
#21. To: Pinguinite (#18)
Those 3 elements are not libertarian.
[N]o individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government...
#22. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
#23. To: Roscoe (#21)
Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972
Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)
#25. To: Roscoe. William F. Buckley reefer madness Republicans (#11)
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: hondo68 (#25)
#27. To: Roscoe (#21)
#28. To: misterwhite (#27)
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
#29. To: hondo68, Roscoe (#25)
"William F. Buckley smoked weed ..."
#30. To: Pinguinite, roscoe (#23)
#31. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe, misterwhite (#5)
(Edited)
You [Roscoe] obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#33. To: Gatlin (#31)
#34. To: Gatlin (#31)
#35. To: Deckard (#32)
#36. To: Roscoe (#35)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#37. To: misterwhite (#29)
#38. To: Roscoe (#37)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#39. To: Deckard (#38)
#40. To: Roscoe, Gatlin (#24)
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]
I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed.
So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment.
BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
#41. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#40)
That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.
But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin.
Paging misterwhite...
#42. To: Roscoe (#41)
#43. To: Roscoe (#41)
"Paging misterwhite..."
#44. To: Pinguinite (#42)
(Edited)
Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform.
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors...
#45. To: misterwhite (#43)
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