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Title: John Stossel pushes Libertarian view on terrorism: Do Nothing !!!
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URL Source: http://www.wbdaily.com/national/joh ... -view-on-terrorism-do-nothing/
Published: Jun 29, 2016
Author: John Stossel
Post Date: 2016-06-29 13:11:40 by Vinny
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Views: 3893
Comments: 26

John Stossel pushes Libertarian view on terrorism: Do Nothing

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By Lynn Woolley

Like most Libertarians, Stossel prefers a hands-off policy for just about everything. Some of the time, he’s right. But efforts to stop ISIS and other terrorist threats – Stossel calls “reckless.” The FOX News commentator doesn’t have any ideas on how to stop ISIS. He admits it. http://www.wbdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/LM-12-22-15.mp3

He goes on to say that candidates like Hillary Clinton and Marco Rubio seem all too willing to start bombing and sending in troops. Maybe he’s right – and we shouldn’t do those things. But with regard to domestic Islamic terrorism, he takes a weird position: Ignore it.

Stossel says more Americans die in bike accidents or while swimming or driving. He also buys into the Ron Paul “blame America first” position on why Islamists hate us. This is the reason that Rand Paul isn’t doing well. Most Americans actually want to defeat terrorists.

Why terrorists hate us.

John Stossel

John Stossel

According to Stossel, it has nothing whatsoever to do with “who we are” or the fact that we let girls attend school. It’s all because we meddle in their countries. That may be true – but on the other hand – their countries are a mess. They are mostly Islamic theocracies that engage in intra-country atrocities on a daily basis, and that subjugate women. Some brainwash schoolchildren into hating Israel.

More important, we have depended on those countries for oil. That is just a fact. With the world economy base on fossil fuels – and it still is – we have had to protect our interests in the Middle East. That meant propping up the Shah of Iran until Jimmy Carter decided not to. It meant doing other things, based on the best strategy possible at the time. It also means honoring our commitment to the stability of Israel.

Video: John Stossel with Allan Handelman 12/11/15 on “CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS”

Stossel and many other Libertarians do not see the real world.

Don’t misunderstand – I love most of Stossel’s views on government meddling in our lives and in the affairs of private businesses. He makes a lot of sense there. But it’s on foreign affairs that I – and many conservatives – part with Libertarian thought. Sitting back and doing nothing is not always a viable strategy.

Ronald Reagan worked with Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II to hasten the defeat of Soviet Communism. It did not happen because world leaders did nothing.

Granted, we do not have a Ronald Reagan in office now. We have the exact opposite. But with new leadership may come new ideas for defeating and destroying the cult of radical Islamic terrorism.

It can be done. But a Democrat will not likely do it and neither will a Libertarian. It will take a Ronald Reagan type. If you see on one on the ballot, that’s the person to vote for.

lynn@BeLogical.com

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Ronald Reagan worked with Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II to hasten the defeat of Soviet Communism. It did not happen because world leaders did nothing.

WTF??????

Reagan, Thatcher, and JPII all conspired to bring down the Soviet empire????? That's laughable in of itself.

I do note that it says they hastened to end soviet communism, that "it" did not happen because they did nothing. But what is "it". Is "it" the hastening of the fall, or the fall itself? As grammarically worded, "it" refers to the hastening, implying that the fall would indeed have happened eventually on it's own.

What kind of moron would write this kind of nonsensical paragraph? And that's assuming it's true Reagan, Thatcher & JPII all worked together to end communism.

Vinny, you and Gatlin really need some more intelligent sources of information.

I like Stossel. He's right about a lot of things, and US foreign policy has indeed been a humanitarian disaster, Iraq being among the worst. As for ISIS, if we hadn't invaded Iraq and instead "done nothing", ISIS wouldn't exist today. Answer that one!

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#6. To: Pinguinite (#2)

As for ISIS, if we hadn't invaded Iraq and instead "done nothing", ISIS wouldn't exist today. Answer that one!

they would still be called 'The Republican Guard ' and they'd still be terrorizing the people of Iraq . Everyone thinks terrorism in Iraq began with the US invasion. But Saddam Hussein led a terrorist campaign in Iraq for years ,that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives before he was ousted . ISIS is the JV team compared to him. No one cared about his terrorism because they believed it led to stability .

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they would still be called 'The Republican Guard ' and they'd still be terrorizing the people of Iraq . Everyone thinks terrorism in Iraq began with the US invasion. But Saddam Hussein led a terrorist campaign in Iraq for years ,that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives before he was ousted.

Hussein was secular. ISIS is anything but. Are you seriously suggesting that ISIS is a direct descendant of Hussein's Republican Guard?

Iraq was invaded, and the preceding years of trade embargos imposed, on the false pretense that he had WMD's. The reality was that W Bush just wanted to do a war, and he took advantage of the public sentiment after 911 to do it. So the US has no business criticizing other countries for their human rights record.

ISIS is the JV team compared to him.

Hogwash. He had his share of skeletons in his closets, but he had no desire to impose Sharia law on Iraqis.

No one cared about his terrorism because they believed it led to stability .

I'm inclined to believe that Saddam's crimes were limited only to him holding on to power, little different from any other leader worldwide. And again, Saddam was never interested in imposing Sharia law on Iraqis.

And yes, under Hussain, Iraq was most certainly stable.

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I'm inclined to believe that Saddam's crimes were limited only to him holding on to power, little different from any other leader worldwide. And again, Saddam was never interested in imposing Sharia law on Iraqis.

And yes, under Hussain, Iraq was most certainly stable.

What difference is it what type of government he was imposing with his jackboots ? The fact is he brutally imposed his will on the people of the Iraq killing hundreds of thousands and torturing many more . He gassed the Kurds in Halabja and 40 other villages killing up to 5,000 people and injuring 7,000 to 10,000 more. He leveled the town of Dujail in retaliation for one person taking a shot at him . Before he did that he rounded up 140 fighting-age men who were never heard from again.He rounded up 1,500 other townspeople, including children,tortured them before he exiled them into the desert . 182,000 Kurds were killed during his Anfal campaign.

As for stability ,he twice invaded his neighbors ,over a million deaths (mostly during his invasion of Iran) . 1,000 Kuwaiti civilians were killed during his invasion and occupation of Kuwait . Had it not been for our intervention he would've easily over-run Saudi Arabia.

The region was far from stable . Iraq under his watch actively supported a number of terrorist organizations and he was a threat to all his neighbors.

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What difference is it what type of government he was imposing with his jackboots ? The fact is he brutally imposed his will on the people of the Iraq killing hundreds of thousands and torturing many more . He gassed the Kurds in Halabja and 40 other villages killing up to 5,000 people and injuring 7,000 to 10,000 more. He leveled the town of Dujail in retaliation for one person taking a shot at him . Before he did that he rounded up 140 fighting-age men who were never heard from again.He rounded up 1,500 other townspeople, including children,tortured them before he exiled them into the desert . 182,000 Kurds were killed during his Anfal campaign.

And how many Iraqis died as a direct result of trade embargo and invasion of Iraq?

More than the tally here.

However bad Saddam was for Iraq, the US has been much worse. Or do you suggest we invade every country that has human rights abuses?

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Or do you suggest we invade every country that has human rights abuses?

of course not . He was invaded because despite the multiple sanctions ,and the US maintaining no fly zones to protect the people from his abuses ,and the UN fraud and corruption with the Oil for Food program (blame them for Iraqi deaths ) ,and the multiple warnings that there would be consequences for violating sanctions and not coming clean about his chemical ,biological ,and nuclear programs (yes he still had them...he shipped his nuclear research to Libya )....he still stubbornly refused to comply . His past history proved he could not be trusted to willingly give them up ,or give them up under international pressure .Thousands had died from his Chemical weapons . The fact that he still had them was not a matter of debate ;it was the consensus assessment of all the intel services in the world ... including his own services and officers . It was also a consensus of the whole American political community that he retained his weapons . This was the bipartisan opinion of everyone ,who had access to the classified intel ...including both Bush and Clinton ,and every Congressional leader .

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