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Title: Judge tosses Libertarian Frank Tamburri from U.S. Senate ballot
Source: Arizona Central
URL Source: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news ... rri-us-senate-ballot/86436176/
Published: Jun 28, 2016
Author: Mary Jo Pitzl
Post Date: 2016-06-28 21:28:23 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 7016
Comments: 48

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah rejected arguments that Libertarians are subjected to unfair requirements for signatures on their nomination papers, and determined the naturopathic doctor lacked the required 3,034 signatures.

However, Tamburri is filing an appeal with the Arizona Supreme Court. If the lower-court ruling holds, there will be a primary only on the Republican ballot. Democrat Ann Kirkpatrick is running unchallenged.

If he's successful, Tamburri would be the sole Libertarian on his party's primary ballot, which means he would be on November ballot as the Libertarian standard-bearer.

Arizona Republican Party Chairman Robert Graham filed the complaint against Tamburri. Republicans suspected Tamburri was recruited by the Democrats to run, figuring he could pull votes away from the GOP nominee in what is expected to be a tough general-election race.

But Tamburri has maintained he is a genuine Libertarian, not a recent recruit to the party ranks. His defense in the petition challenge revolved around what he maintained were unfair signature requirements for minor parties. But Hannah cited a Georgia case in which the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a signature requirement of 5 percent of registered voters in a given party. In Arizona, the requirement is one-quarter of 1 percent of voters — and that can include independents.

Remainder of the story is here.

Additional Comment:

The term “Libertarian” has long been synonymous with “Asshole” in my estimation, and I think it’s safe to say that Jacobin magazine editor Connor Kilpatrick probably feels the same way.

Today is the centenary anniversary of the birth of Libertarian icon, economist Milton Friedlman, so what better day for the publication of the most viciously hilarious takedpown of the Libertarian position that I think I’ve ever read?

Excerpted from the much longer “It’s Hip! It’s Cool! It’s Libertarianism!” which was cross-posted today at both Naked Capitalism and The Exiled:

Libertarianism isn’t some cutting-edge political philosophy that somehow transcends the traditional “left to right” spectrum. It’s a radical, hard-right economic doctrine promoted by wealthy people who always end up backing Republican candidates, no matter how often they talk about civil liberties, ending the wars and legalizing pot. Funny how that works.

It’s the “third way” for a society in which turning against capitalism or even taking your foot off the pedal is not an option. Thanks to our shitty constitution and the most violent labor history in the West, we never even got a social-democratic party like the rest of the developed world.

So what do we get? The libertarian line: “No, no: the problem isn’t that we’re too capitalist. It’s that we’re not capitalist enough!”

Genius.

At a time in which our society has never been more interdependent in every possible way, libertarians think they’re John fucking Wayne looking out over his ranch with an Apache scalp in his belt, or John fucking Galt doing…whatever it is he does. (Collect vintage desk toys from the Sharper Image?)

Their whole ideology is like a big game of Dungeons & Dragons. It’s all make-believe, except for the chain-mail–they brought that from home. Elves, dwarves and fair maidens for capital. Even with the supposedly “good ones”—anti-war libertarians—we’re still talking about people who think Medicare’s going to lead to Stalinism.

So my advice is to call them out.

Ask them what their beef really is with the welfare state. First, they’ll talk about the deficit and say we just can’t afford entitlement programs. Well, that’s obviously a joke, so move on. Then they’ll say that it gives the government tyrannical power. Okay. Let me know when the Danes open a Guantánamo Bay in Greenland.

Here’s the real reason libertarians hate the idea. The welfare state is a check against servility towards the rich. A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses—this is the power to say “I’m gonna work odd jobs for twenty hours a week while I work on my driftwood sculptures and play keyboards in my a chillwave band. And I’ll still be able to go to the doctor and make rent.”

Sounds like freedom to me.

Standing ovation!

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/class_war_for_idiots_libertarianism_assholism

Read more of Connor Kilpatrick’s “It’s Hip! It’s Cool! It’s Libertarianism!” at either The Exiled or at Naked Capitalism. Trust me it’s a fantastic, totally worthwhile read.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

The term “Libertarian” has long been synonymous with “Asshole” in my estimation

That is because you have a one cell brain at the end of your spine. Instead of residing between your ears, the one cell brain resides near the exit port of your body; it is washed with shit everyday just inside and near your anal sphincter.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-28   21:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin hates libertarianism. What else is new? (#0)

Here’s the real reason libertarians hate the idea. The welfare state is a check against servility towards the rich. A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses—this is the power to say “I’m gonna work odd jobs for twenty hours a week while I work on my driftwood sculptures and play keyboards in my a chillwave band. And I’ll still be able to go to the doctor and make rent.”

Sounds like freedom to me.

Me too.

I've long advocated a taxation scheme like the fair tax, coupled with a bare bones Medicare type system for everyone.

We're a rich country, and could afford it if the income tax was repealed, and all levels of govt were reduced to a minimum.

I'd bet that this would spark a renaissance of capitalism unlike any ever known.

Which is why it'll never happen. -- Socialistic statists like gatlin hate unfettered capitalism.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-28   22:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin, Conspiracy Theory Kook, tinfoil hat division (#0)

Republicans suspected Tamburri was recruited by the Democrats to run, figuring he could pull votes away from the GOP nominee in what is expected to be a tough general-election race.

Another tinfoil hat conspiracy theory from NWO headquarters, Gatlin's gated community, psych ward.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-06-28   22:34:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

If this turd stain acted like our resident Paultards, then awesome job, judge!!!!

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-28   22:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tpaine (#2)

unfettered capitalism.

I love unfettered capitalism.... however libertarians hate the unfettered ability to become filthy rich. Your twisted cult members start little clubs like OWS and bitch about the "elites".

We aren't all equal. Some deserve to be filthy rich while others deserve to eat out of a dumpster.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-28   22:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland, tpaine (#5) (Edited)

I love unfettered capitalism....

To include monopolys that the US government permits?

however libertarians hate the unfettered ability to become filthy rich. Your twisted cult members start little clubs like OWS and bitch about the "elites".

Can you change your monicker to "completely dumbed down?" Thanks in advance.

We aren't all equal. Some deserve to be filthy rich while others deserve to eat out of a dumpster.

As a low crawling maggot, attempting to squirm out of its pathetic shit hole ... I have to agree, you are not equal to many of us that otherwise value the precepts of the US Constitution.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-28   22:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#5) (Edited)

Sounds like freedom to me.

Me too.

I've long advocated a taxation scheme like the fair tax, coupled with a bare bones Medicare type system for everyone.

We're a rich country, and could afford it if the income tax was repealed, and all levels of govt were reduced to a minimum.

I'd bet that this would spark a renaissance of capitalism unlike any ever known.

Which is why it'll never happen. -- Socialistic statists like gatlin hate unfettered capitalism.

I love unfettered capitalism.... however libertarians hate the unfettered ability to become filthy rich.

Weirdest conclusion you've ever made, Grandi.. Where did you come up with that howler? -- EVERYBODY sane wants to live rich, trust me.

Your twisted cult members start little clubs like OWS and bitch about the "elites".

Dream on that I'm a cultist, -- hell, I'm not even a hard assed libertarian. I'm a constitutionalist first, and like it's libertarian principles.

We aren't all equal. Some deserve to be filthy rich while others deserve to eat out of a dumpster.

And authoritarian clowns like you should be eating in a prison . mess hall, imho.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-28   23:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tpaine (#7)

Weirdest conclusion you've ever made, Grandi.. Where did you come up with that howler? -- EVERYBODY sane wants to live rich, trust me.

When you say shit like this after I state we aren't equal, dill doe...

"And authoritarian clowns like you should be eating in a prison . mess hall, imho."

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-28   23:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#0)

our shitty constitution

Do you agree with this?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-29   0:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#8)

Weirdest conclusion you've ever made, Grandi.. Where did you come up with that howler? -- EVERYBODY sane wants to live rich, trust me

When you say shit like this after I state we aren't equal, dill doe...

You said: ---

We aren't all equal. Some deserve to be filthy rich while others deserve to eat out of a dumpster.

And authoritarian dildoes like you should be eating in an insane asylum mess hall, imho.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-29   1:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tpaine (#10)

So, in your Paultard mind, if a millennial lazy dope smoking shitbag sits home and plays xbox all day and night, me stating that scumbag isn't equal to the CEO of a corporation... and taking money from that CEO's paycheck to redistribute money to the pothead so we can be more equally wealthy because it's so terrible that the CEO has so much more money than the pothead... makes me an "authoritarian"?

Shut your pud polisher.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-29   7:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسل

Proof positive of your lunacy..

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-29   9:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#5)

bitch about the "elites".

Here's some examples of the "elites" you worship.

The SICK Occult Side of the Rothschilds

The host is dressed with a giant horned
head.

The host is wearing a giant horned head. How appropriate.

 

These
pop stars are not the first ones wearing horns all over the place.

Baphomet welcomes you.

 

Salvador Dali with a very weird image of Marilyn Monroe behind him. She
died 10 years before that event. Strange way to portray her.

Salvador Dali doing his Dali face in front of his famous depiction of Mae West.

 

Lady
Gaga is probably dying to wear on of those.

Lady Gaga is probably dying to wear one of these.

13

15

On the
diner table are dolls that are dismembered or with a shattered skull. This
imagery is also prevalent in countless music videos. Its all about the occult
elite's MK culture.

On the diner table are dismembered dolls and cracked skulls. This imagery is also prevalent in countless music videos. Its all about the occult elite’s MK culture.

BOHEMIAN GROVE AND MIND CONTROL


Top people at Bohemian Grove.

July 18th was the first day of the 2015 meeting at Bohemian Grove, in California.

Global One Percent Celebrate at the Bohemian Grove


Queen Elizabeth at a druid ceremony in the UK.

"Great Britain's Queen Elizabeth showed up at Bohemian Grove in 1983.

"Her Majesty was honored with an ecstatic pagan dance ceremony, complete with expensive, elaborate stage props such as Egyptian pyramids and Babylonian ziggurats."

Who Rules

Child sacrifice at Bohemian Grove.

"Stories have come out of the Grove about wild homosexual orgies, male and female prostitutes being engaged in what can only be described as extreme sexual games, young children being exploited in unspeakable ways, up to and including cold-blooded ritual murder. 

"There are stories involving actual human sacrifice on the 'altar' of the owl God statue.

Who Rules

"Former German chancellor Helmut Schmidt's own autobiography, MEN IN POWERS: A POLITICAL RETROSPECTIVE talks about how they have their own German groves, where they do Druidic rituals, but his favorite place to do the rituals is at Bohemian Grove... 

"He talks about the Trilateral Commission, the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group and world government. He says that much of the decisions are made at the Bohemian Grove."

Here’s What the Brexit Did to the World’s 400 Richest People

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-29   10:02:26 ET  (10 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#0)

A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses—this is the power to say “I’m gonna work odd jobs for twenty hours a week while I work on my driftwood sculptures and play keyboards in my a chillwave band. And I’ll still be able to go to the doctor and make rent.”

Sounds like freedom to me.

Sounds like leftist horseshit to me - their typical distortion of "freedom" to mean "freedom from reality and from the consequences of one's own actions."

THIS is the "takedown of the Libertarian position" you elect to embrace?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-29   14:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: ConservingFreedom (#14)

THIS is the "takedown of the Libertarian position" you elect to embrace?

I am presenting their viewpoint ... juat being "fair and balanced."

Surely you don't have a problem with fair and balanced ... or, do you?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-29   14:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#15)

juat being "fair and balanced."

Braying leftist morons have the same First Amendment rights as anyone else - but that doesn't obligate you, me, or LF to give them equal time.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-29   14:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ConservingFreedom (#16)

juat being "fair and balanced."

Braying leftist morons have the same First Amendment rights as anyone else - but that doesn't obligate you, me, or LF to give them equal time.

You are absolutely correct, there is no obligation.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-29   15:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#17)

there is no obligation.

So why do it? Are you "fair and balanced" between God and the Devil?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-29   17:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ConservingFreedom, y'all (#14)

A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses—this is the power to say “I’m gonna work odd jobs for twenty hours a week while I work on my driftwood sculptures and play keyboards in my a chillwave band. And I’ll still be able to go to the doctor and make rent.” ------ Sounds like freedom to me. --- Gatlin posted

Me too.

I've long advocated a taxation scheme like the fair tax w/rebate; --- coupled with a bare bones Medicare type system for everyone. ----

This would be.a substitute for ALL OTHER WELFARE SCHEMES, FED OR STATE...

We're a rich country, and could afford it if the income tax was repealed, and all levels of govt were reduced to a minimum.

I'd bet that this would spark a renaissance of capitalism unlike any ever known.

Which is why it'll never happen. -- Socialistic statists like gatlin hate unfettered capitalism.

CF --- Sounds like leftist horseshit to me - their typical distortion of "freedom" to mean "freedom from reality and from the consequences of one's own actions."

Face it guys, we are rapidly approaching the point where we simply do not need the grunt labor of millions of people.

In order for the rest of us capitalists to work and live lives in freedom, it will be necessary to find something for the unemployable to do. A fair tax type scheme would be the answer..

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-29   19:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#13)

Keep hating the rich, socialist.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-29   20:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland (#20) (Edited)

Keep hating the rich

Keep worshiping the Satanic elite, Godless lover of evil.

These 13 Families Rule the World: The Shadow Forces Behind the NWO

Somewhere near the very top of the pyramid, an extremely elitist organisation known as the Council of the 13 families orchestrates all of the major world events. As the name suggests, the Council consists of the top 13 most influential families on Earth.


An increasingly number of people is becoming aware that 99% of the Earth's population is controlled by an "elite" 1%, but the Council of the 13 families consists of less than 1% of the 1% "elite" and nobody on Earth can apply for membership.

In their opinion, they are entitled to rule over the rest of us because they are the direct descendants of the ancient gods and consider themselves royal. These families are:

  1. Rothschild (Bauer or Bower)
  2. Bruce     
  3. Cavendish (Kennedy)     
  4. De Medici     
  5. Hanover     
  6. Hapsburg     
  7. Krupp     
  8. Plantagenet     
  9. Rockefeller     
  10. Romanov     
  11. Sinclair (St. Clair)     
  12. Warburg (del Banco)     
  13. Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gothe)

(Personally, I suspect that this may not be the complete list and some very powerful lineages are still unknown to us).

The Rothschild dynasty is unquestionably the most powerful - visible - bloodline on Earth and their estimated wealth is around $500 trillions!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-29   21:04:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ConservingFreedom (#18)

… there is no obligation.
So why do it?
That’s a “fair” question and I have often wondered why I have never been asked it before. While I appreciate your right to ask the question, you will need to respect my right to decline to answer.
Are you "fair and balanced" between God and the Devil?
That is an improbable analogy and I will explain why.

I use of the term “fair and balanced” to mean that fair is in accordance with the rules or standards; legitimate … while balance is taking everything into account, meaning fairly judged and equally presented.

To be fair and balanced between God and the Devil, I would need to fairly state the good and bad things about God and balance those with the good and bad things about the Devil.

Since I see God to have been conceived as being incorporeal, yet a personal being for the source of all moral obligations to the greatest conceivable existent … I therefore can only find good things about God.

While on the other hand the Devil is merely a name, among many other names, given to a supernatural entity who is the central embodiment of all evil … consequently, I can only find bad things about the Devil.

Ergo, there is the basis for your improbable analogy.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-29   21:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#21)

Why are you conspiracy theorists so stupid to believe all this shit while rational people laugh at you?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-29   22:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#21)

An increasingly number of people is becoming aware that 99% of the Earth's population is controlled by an "elite" 1%,

You've ate so much Paultard shit you now need mind altering meds. You're in luck... the doctors of today give that shit out like candy.

Lay off the glass pipe, you OWS libtard KOOK

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-29   22:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#23)

Decktard must be the pride of his family during huge family gatherings on holidays.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-29   22:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GrandIsland (#25)

Decktard must be the pride of his family during huge family gatherings on holidays.

That's funny ...

He no doubt lives up the the “crazy libertarian uncle" creed …

It’s up to libertarians to be the crazy uncle at Christmas and Thanksgiving and educate the rest of the family about important issues. There’s nothing wrong with being the crazy uncle. Libertarians should own it and refuse to be shamed into silence by their relatives. Don’t let the other side shut down the debate with politically correct censorship. Stand up for what makes this country great – free speech!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-29   23:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#26) (Edited)

Which one of you is the catcher? Also, which one of you is the pitcher? Or do you both trade off your transactions with each other?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-29   23:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#27)

I'm surprised you could type that with crossed eyes since Stinky Peter Puff uses your sphincter for a Meguro eggroll garage.

I bet you worry about the faggot lover croaking at his age all banned like he is. Maybe you can email him in between his Meguro emails.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-29   23:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard (#13)

Yes, we are ruled by mostly unknown people and cartels.

How do you fight this "beast"? My answer, not with Earthly means.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-06-29   23:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jeremiad (#29)

Yes, we are ruled by mostly unknown people and cartels.

That sad part is - most people don't realize it. There are even some who are so conditioned by the mass media that they will try and deny the truth and marginalize you by calling you a kook - now there's a word - or a conspiracy theorist, as if that is the ultimate insult.

They can't even wrap their minds around the fact that powerful people might get together and have a plan.

And that these same people have willingly sold their souls to Satan for unfettered power and riches and have banded together with one goal - a New World Order ruled by the antichrist.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-30   9:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Gatlin (#22)

While on the other hand the Devil is merely a name, among many other names, given to a supernatural entity who is the central embodiment of all evil … consequently, I can only find bad things about the Devil.

Interesting - you believe in the existence of Satan, but you refuse to believe that there are evil people in high places, those with unlimited wealth and power who do his bidding.

How does one live with that kind of cognitive dissonance?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-30   9:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#31) (Edited)

Interesting - you believe in the existence of Satan, but you refuse to believe that there are evil people in high places, those with unlimited wealth and power who do his bidding.

I do NOT refuse “to believe that there are evil people in high places, those with unlimited wealth and power who do his bidding.” I need only to look no further than Obama, Hillary and Kerry to be fully aware that they have unlimited wealth and seemingly unlimited power to do, and are doing, the Devil’s bidding.

One of the many shortcomings you self-righteous Paultard shitheads have is that you not only try to tell people what to think, you believe you posses magical innate power to read someone’s mind and determine what they believe ... then become smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior or others.

How does one live with that kind of cognitive dissonance?

Oh, my sides … I cannot stop laughing at the irony of how you of all people can judge someone to have cognitive dissonance when your hyper tense anxiety constantly holds such a contradictory and incompatible attitude to the norm and lets you think you can decide what is right for all Americans and control how they think.

I have lived through a world where Obama leads and controls … I have survived. I could never live in a world where you Paultard libertarians would try to control all actions and thinking by free people. You Paultards can take your libertarian belief that you can determine when someone cannot think well and that you will do their thinking for them and shove it up your liberal asses.

Hmmm … I just remembered that someone the other day asked me why I have such great disdain for libertarians.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-30   10:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#32)

I need only to look no further than Obama, Hillary and Kerry to be fully aware that they have unlimited wealth and seemingly unlimited power to do, and are doing, the Devil’s bidding.

And as far as you're concerned, these people are at the top of the pyramid, is that correct? You actually think that these minor underlings are the ones who are running the world?

I have lived through a world where Obama leads and controls …

Obama is a puppet. He is doing EXACTLY what his handlers tell him to do.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-30   11:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#32)

I could never live in a world where you Paultard libertarians would try to control all actions and thinking by free people.

You have libertarians confused with nanny-state statists.

Like yourself for instance.

Called the cops on any kid's lemonade stands lately?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-30   11:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#22)

'Are you "fair and balanced" between God and the Devil?'

That is an improbable analogy and I will explain why.

Fair point. Are you "fair and balanced" between eating hamburger and eating manure? I consider that a very apt analogy for being "fair and balanced" between conservatism and liberalism.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-30   11:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#32)

your libertarian belief that you can determine when someone cannot think well and that you will do their thinking for them

When has Deckard or any libertarian proclaimed an intention to do anyone's thinking for them?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-30   11:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: ConservingFreedom (#36)

your libertarian belief that you can determine when someone cannot think well and that you will do their thinking for them
When has Deckard or any libertarian proclaimed an intention to do anyone's thinking for them?

"Proclaimed - announce officially or publicly."

It is not necessary for someone to publically announce something in order to do it.

Get real ...

I know ... here comes the "rephrased question."

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-30   12:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#37)

here comes the "rephrased question."

There went the semantic hairsplitting.

When has Deckard or any libertarian stated an intention to do anyone's thinking for them?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-30   12:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#33)

You actually think that these minor underlings are the ones who are running the world?
Of course there are rich and powerful people who get together and make plans in secrecy. No doubt they talk about mundane secrets to make some under the table deals with “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” arrangements involving some type of covert operations mutually beneficial for power and profits. I will never dispute that. But when you continually try to tell me there is a secret illuminati plan of world domination to microchip the population under the NEW WORLD ORDER form of global government, then you and I quickly part ways.

I will admitted that there are no doubt some dirty secrets and under the table deals that take place from time to time among the elite and powerful, but I cannot see any factual evidence there is any “illuminate NWO plot” to take over the world and instate a one world government. It is too far fetched to ever believe that the governments of all almost 200 countries in the world would all agree on anything.

You can continue to believe your “conspiracy theory.” But don’t try to push your CT propaganda shit on me. Until you show me factual proof there is a NWO seeking to establish a one world government and microchip the entire world population, I will go on believing that you and the other Alex Jones “CT disciples” are crazy loonies full of shit. In the meantime I will continue to laugh at all of you CT freaks while I envision some small group of individuals mind-fucking all of you CT freaks with this NWO crap and reveling in bliss at the chaos they create and set in motion, from which they probably derive some form of “dark ecstasy.”

As you propagate your inconclusive and ambiguous innuendos about a NWO, I will continue to laugh and ridicule you.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-30   14:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ConservingFreedom (#38)

There went the semantic hairsplitting.

"Words have meanings."

When has Deckard or any libertarian stated an intention to do anyone's thinking for them?
If you expect me to go back to various posts to parse sentences and point this out, then I must inform you that I will not take time to do that.

There have been instances where it was obvious to me that he was trying to channel my thinking.

Being "fair and balanced" ... I will, however, have no dispute with you should you interpret his phraseology differently while reading his posts to me.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-30   15:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Gatlin (#40)

There have been instances where it was obvious to me that he was trying to channel my thinking.

So you "believe you posses magical innate power to read someone’s mind" - as you were recently berating the "Paultards" for allegedly believing. Interesting.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-30   16:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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