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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: Live BR EXIT vote Source: google URL Source: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=brexit+vote+results Published: Jun 23, 2016 Author: staff with help Post Date: 2016-06-23 20:29:51 by BobCeleste Keywords: ACP Views: 15330 Comments: 117 When it was 1.5% in it was 49.5 stay, 50.5 leave, the leaves seem to widening the gap. 2.6% Reporting Votes Remain a member of the European Union 48.4% 280,820 Leave the European Union 51.6% 299,598 Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: This is a wonderful surprise. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 72. #2. To: BobCeleste (#0) Why is it, "a wonderful surprise?" buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-23   20:36:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: buckeroo (#2) It's a wonderful surprise for two reasons. First, the polls indicated that Remain would win. Second, there are so many trillions at stake that I assumed that the Remain forces would successfully rig the vote to ensure they got the result they wanted. So, seeing the Leave vote apparently surging, and seeing that it's actually apparently going to happen, it's wonderful. It's wonderful because so many other nations are chafing at the EU bit as well. France, Holland, Denmark, Sweden - their people all want to go. With England out, it will be very easy for France to do the same now. The EU could have been a grand thing. But it didn't live up to it promise. It became dominated by a narrow, strangling financial interest and lost the support of its people. But really, when the Germans simply opened up their borders, without consultation with their neighbors (with whom they have the open borders pact) and let in millions of Muslims, they effectively fed rat poison to the EU project. BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-06-23   20:51:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Vicomte13 (#3) BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too. Somehow, I expected a Trumperette waving their POM-POMs to swing on by this thread wildly waving their legs aloft giving prognostications for Trump. Good GOD, man, have you no dignity? buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-23   21:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: buckeroo (#8) Sure, I've got dignity. But we're talking power here and the future, and I'm keenly interested in seeing my views win. With Brexit, I have a surprise, smashing victory for my beliefs. Free immigration of French people into England, or English into French, or Dutch and Irish and Danes, all that - nobody cares about that. But free immigration of every Muslim who happens to get an immigration card from some dithering government on the periphery? NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-06-23   21:21:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Vicomte13 (#9) NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here. You are confused about international agreements such as in the integration of free passage between member countries and a single currency in the EU, as opposed to separate nations that share a common border such as the US & Mexico with the Clinton NAFTA agreement which is a completely DIFFERENT approach to the respective neighborhood. GEESH, Trumperettes trully are silly POM POM girlz! buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-23   21:45:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: buckeroo (#11) I'm not confused about anything, buckeroo. Apparently, neither are the British people. They've been in the EU for a long time, and they've had their fill of it. Now they are leaving, reasserting their sovereignty, and charting their own course for the future. And immigration into their country at rates beyond which they were willing to tolerate was a core factor in their decision. America faces the same issue. The political classes and the economic classes view broad immigration as good for the country - as defined by their interests. But the broad back of the people do not. Because the political and economic classes refuse to listen and will not yield, they will have to be broken. By Trump. The issue is the same on both sides of the sea. It is why a Frexit will be on the cards next. The French are well and truly sick of it also, and they will be voting with their feet. The English example gives them an incredible boost in hope. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule your own land again. God save the Queen. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-06-23   22:21:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Vicomte13 (#13) buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-23   22:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: buckeroo (#14) 11:43 PM British Sky News calls the election: the British people have voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. What a wonderful result! Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-06-23   23:44:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Vicomte13, buckeroo, All (#15) Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do. The global stock markets, debt markets and currency markets are going bat sh*t crazy. I am expecting to take about an overall 2-3% hit on an overall well balanced portfolio tomorrow morning. But like you I believe this is an over reaction and the markets will more or less rebound in the short term. The fact is that the UK isn't getting out of the EU any time soon. SOSO  posted on  2016-06-24   1:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: SOSO (#19) But like you, I believe this is an over reaction Truth be told, it's a tantrum by the moneymen. Nationalism trumped economics. Hard. They don't like that, it's not in their playbook for major nations to do that. When minor nations do it, they close in and punish. But when the UK does it, they find their money power really is inferior to democracy, and it panics them, and pisses them off, so they have a tantrum. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-06-24   6:45:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Vicomte13 (#27) France ins't leaving. My grandfather was in WWII he said they were stinky people who didn't bathe. Kind of like Johnny Depp I guess. A K A Stone  posted on  2016-06-24   7:07:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: A K A Stone (#29) The mob rules Britt's were tired of smelly, pushy Muslims shitting on them with Europes progressive bleeding heart idiology... and in November, this country is going to be heard loud and clear about our borders being sealed up WHEN TRUMP kicks KILLary in her birth canal until her nose bleeds and sends that bitch packing. GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-24   7:22:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: GrandIsland (#30) (Edited) and in November, this country is going to be heard loud and clear about our borders being sealed up The US retreat behind the Great Wall of Trump will you build it at the Rio Grande or the Red River? paraclete  posted on  2016-06-24   10:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: paraclete (#33) The US retreat behind the Great Wall of Trump will you build it at the Rio Grande or the Red River? I'd gladly build it to keep your poisonous ass out or unable to enter and infect my republic with your progressive idiology. GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-24   17:30:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: GrandIsland (#46) I'd gladly build it to keep your poisonous ass out or unable to enter and infect my republic with your progressive idiology. Go ahead but it won't keep me out, not than I want to visit your capitalist utopia anytime soon. My ideology is not progressive but it is not regressive, I have moved on from the 18th century frontier society and the need to protect myself against the natives. Your problem is you think you live in a democracy paraclete  posted on  2016-06-24   23:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #61. To: paraclete (#57) Whether you realize it or not, there is a real cottage industry of hiring illegals in the US. It is complex and structured. There is lots of work available, and you can get it when you want it, but you have to be on the inside. White people (or American blacks, for that matter) need not apply. no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-06-25   0:16:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: no gnu taxes (#61) (Edited) Whether you realize it or not, there is a real cottage industry of hiring illegals in the US. It is complex and structured. look ethnics hire ethnics, it is easier to exploit your own than others. happens everywhere. It is called discrimination. You have a society that still exploits labour. even if you send these people back you will not fill the jobs those "whites" and "blacks" don't want them, they are "brown" jobs paraclete  posted on  2016-06-25   0:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #65. To: paraclete (#62) if you send these people back you will not fill the jobs those "whites" and "blacks" don't want them Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits. no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-06-25   8:53:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #66. To: no gnu taxes (#65) Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits. If their only choice was to work those jobs at 8.00 an hour or STARVE... guess what happens. Our economy needs all three classes. We aren't all equal. GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-25   8:57:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #72. To: GrandIsland (#66) Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits. If their only choice was to work those jobs at 8.00 an hour or STARVE... guess what happens. Just to be clear about my point. These jobs are essentially CLOSED to non-Hispanic workers. They are not advertised, the only way you get them is by word of mouth. The people who hire for these jobs and even the people who work them are highly suspicious of outsiders. If I were to go there ( assuming I wanted to work in the hot sun all day for $6 an hour), they would say sorry, no openings. Even unknown Hispanics are not trusted. There are large American farmers and builders who control this. They stay far in the background. They hire legal Hispanics as subcontractors. They hire mostly illegals who are glad to have this work because they have guaranteed money on a regular basis. They wouldn't be able to get any job that required a SSN. Most any white or black legal could fairly easily get a better job than this for more money. If these field jobs paid $15 an hour ( as they probably should in a free market that consisted solely of legal citizens) many Americans would be lining up to do the work. These illegals also know how to game the system. It is very hard to get SNAP, but they can get medicaid pretty easily. They don't feel guilty at all about what they are doing, and just feel they are doing what they need to do to make good lives. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's the way this works. Anybody who has been around it knows it. no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-06-25   13:50:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 72.         There are no replies to Comment # 72. End Trace Mode for Comment # 72. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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