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Bang / Guns Title: Opinion: What America’s gun fanatics won’t tell you The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution doesnt just say Congress shall not infringe the right to keep and bear arms. It specifically says that right exists in order to maintain a well-regulated militia. Even the late conservative Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia admitted those words werent in there by accident. Oh, and the Constitution doesnt just say a militia. It says a well-regulated militia. What did the Founding Fathers mean by that? We dont have to guess because they told us. In Federalist No. 29 of the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton explained at great length precisely what a well-regulated militia was, why the Founding Fathers thought we needed one, and why they wanted to protect it from being disarmed by the federal government. And theres a reason absolutely no gun extremist will ever direct you to that 1788 essay because it blows their baloney into a million pieces. A well-regulated militia didnt mean guys who read Soldier of Fortune magazine running around in the woods with AK-47s and warpaint on their faces. It basically meant what today we call the National Guard. It should be a properly constituted, ordered and drilled (well-regulated) military force, organized state by state, explained Hamilton. Each state militia should be a select corps, well-trained and able to perform all the operations of an army. The militia needed uniformity in
organization and discipline, wrote Hamilton, so that it could operate like a proper army in camp and field, and so that it could gain the essential
degree of proficiency in military functions. And although it was organized state by state, it needed to be under the explicit control of the national government. The well-regulated militia was under the command of the president. It was the military arm of the government. The one big difference between this militia and a professional army? It shouldnt be made up of full-time professional soldiers, said the Founding Fathers. Such soldiers could be used against the people as King George had used his mercenary Redcoats. Instead, the American republic should make up its military force from part-time volunteers drawn from regular citizens. Such men would be less likely to turn on the population. And the creation of this well-regulated militia, aka the National Guard, would help safeguard the freedom of the new republic because it would make the creation of a professional, mercenary army unnecessary, wrote Hamilton. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, he wrote. That was the point. And that was why they wanted to make sure it couldnt be disarmed by the federal government: So a future tyrant couldnt disarm the National Guard, and then use a mercenary army to impose martial law. The Founding Fathers didnt call the republics new force an army because that term more than two centuries ago called to mind the British army, foreign mercenaries, tyrants and kings. So they said militia instead. But they meant a real body. Hamilton was scathing about the idea that the militia could just mean every Bob, Billy and Benjamin with his musket. Such amateurs would stand no chance in modern warfare against professionals, he wrote. And requiring every citizen to become a professional would be ridiculous, he said. It would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss, he wrote. Taking people away from their work in order to train them would form an annual deduction from the productive labor of the country. The Second Amendment is an instrument of government. Its not about hunting or gun collecting or carrying your pistol into the saloon. The Founding Fathers left it up to us to pass sensible laws about all these things. The Constitution is about government. Today we have a professional army, anyway. Military matters have become so complex that no part-time soldiers could do it all. So you could argue that makes the Second Amendment null and void, like the parts in the Constitution about slaves and Indians being counted as three-fifths of a person in the Census. But even if you still want to defend the Second Amendment, it should apply only to those who volunteer to join the select corps of their National Guard, undergo rigorous training to attain proficiency in military functions and perform the operations of an army, serve as ordered under the ultimate command of the president and be subject to military discipline. So if youre running around waving your AK-47 under the Second Amendment, and you havent shown up yet at your local National Guard headquarters, youre not a patriot. Youre a deserter. Arends discusses: "Federalist No. 29" as though he is locked-jawed about the only consideration for the creation of the BILL OF RIGHTS. Arends is wrong, of course. The BILL OF RIGHTS was a requirement by the anti-federalists; so his reference is only meaningful when you consider a totally lame exploitation of America's education system. 'Well regulated' at the tyme of the BILL OF RIGHTS writing meant that amoung the states that all federal law was equal of and towards the states. There was nothing more to the intent of the phrase until today's liberal, authoritarian facists that profess TOTAL federal government control stole the idea as meaning lots of unnecessary federal bureaucracy, as though we are to be ruled by a king. I often laff at those that argue that BILL OF RIGHTS is for federal government. That is far from the truth. The BILL OF RIGHTS was an EXCLUSION from federal government and was for and about state authority. Arends has his head up his ass but you knew that already. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 13.
#2. To: buckeroo (#0)
Federalist No. 29, and all of the Federalist Papers, are nothing but newspaper editorials from their time. They have exactly the legal force as editorials in the New York Times. Newspaper editorials, such as the Federalist Papers, are written by political partisans to public their point of view and try to persuade people. They are not legal documents. They are not "legislative history". They are newspaper editorials, and that's all they ever were. It doesn't matter that together they are book length. It doesn't matter that as a people we revere the Founders. None of that elevates their political opinions in newspaper editorials of the time to the level of law. (This cuts all ways.) The Federalist Papers give us a good idea of what some men of the leading men of the time thought. And yet, soon we had a Constitution, and we DIDN'T then proceed to restrict guns as Hamilton would have wished.
The Federalist Papers were written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay -- three of the Founding Fathers. Additionally, James Madison was the author of the U.S. Constitution. Meaning their comments offer much insight as to the original intent of that document. The second amendment was written to protect the existence of well-regulated state militias. At the time, there was no federal army, nor did the Founders want one (for obvious reasons). But the War of 1812 demonstrated a need for a standing federal army and, at that point, militias became moot. But the second amendment still protects well- regulated state militias like the Texas State Guard and State Militias in 21 other states. Your individual right to keep and bear arms outside of the militia is protected by your state constitution. The Heller court ruled otherwise, but they were wrong.
Now subject to being modified or overruled by federal judges. Just like the morons wanted.
Now subject to being modified or overruled by federal judges. Just like the morons wanted . --- Roscoe misterwhite, at (#5) Pretends that your individual right to keep and bear arms outside of the militia is protected by your state constitution. -- IT IS NOT, as anyone that lives California or the other states infringing on the right can testify. Moron Roscoe claims that our constitutional rights are now subject to being modified or overruled by federal judges. Just like the morons wanted, -- when of course, judges at ANY LEVEL have never had that power. -- They try, but eventually their infringements are shot down by the political process. As we will see by a Trump election.
Judges have no method to enforce their rulings. Their "decisions" are toothless decrees. The executive branch is under no obligation to obey or enforce their opinions. Presidents have ignored them, and will most likely continue to do so whenever they feel like it.
Try telling it to roscoe and the canary Klan. Be prepared for a moronic silence.
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