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Bang / Guns Title: The Goal Is People Control, Not Gun Control The GOP is getting ready to do what the GOP always does – cave to the force of progressive bullies. According to CBS News’s Steven Portnoy, McConnell has a meeting with FBI director James Comey and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Wednesday. Portnoy Tweeted that McConnell has signaled he may be willing to consider new gun controls after that meeting. Via SSI, it might be claimed that this is all being done for a purpose and by design, effecting no change except for raising money. The Republicans have had the White House and the Senate and the House and they have never passed real pro-gun legislation. Bought a full auto lately? Heck, have you priced a full auto lately? The Democrats as recently as a few years ago had Obama and the Senate and the House. They didn’t pass gun confiscation legislation either. It’s a game to keep us distracted. The Republicans get to scare us with threats of Democrat gun control and we send them money and vote them into office. For the Democrats, it keeps their rabid base energized to send the Democrats lots of money and get them voted into office. Heck, even the famous NRA would go broke if real gun rights legislation ever passed into law. So, how does this lead us to the shootings in Florida? When things like this happen, I always implore the motto, “follow the money”. Who wins with a shooting of this type? Obviously, the two political parties do. It’s unlikely that any real legislation will be introduced between now and the election. Republicans want to be reelected. Of course Republicans and the NRA are now pushing a “real” bill to keep guns out of the hands of the terrorists. The Democrats will whine and cry that it isn’t enough but will go along. Of course once it’s passed and folks want to exercise due process over being on the terrorist watch list, we’ll all be told that national security trumps any legal protections. And both sides will continue their fund raising. Well, this is a jaded view, and I’m not above being quite jaded, but this analysis seems to me to ignore several very important things. First of all, many republicans come from the Northeast where they do want gun control, but they actually fear the loss of that percentage of voters who can put them out of office. Second, the democrats haven’t passed gun control for one simple reason, i.e., lack of votes. If they had the votes, you can be assured they would have most white, conservative Christians hooked up to mill wheels turning grain into flour and corn into grits. The rest would be in concentration camps (Fusion centers). Ideology trumps donations because enslavement of the working class produces wealth for the elitists. They will always find a way to enrich themselves. So if mere interest in campaign donations isn’t the impetus behind this, what is? Before we get to that, take careful note of what Donald Trump said about this push for gun control. In an abrupt shift in message, Donald Trump indicated Wednesday that he might be taking on a Republican tenet: the party’s long-standing opposition to gun control. Trump said he would talk to the NRA about not allowing “people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.” In typical fashion for the presumptive Republican nominee, the announcement came via Twitter: I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns. The NRA, for its part, says there’s no conflict: Happy to meet @realdonaldtrump. Our position is no guns for terrorists—period. Due process & right to self-defense for law-abiding Americans In a statement, the NRA said it would be “happy to meet with Donald Trump.” But that: “The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.” Trump doesn’t tell the democrats on capital hill to go to hell because first he is a Northeast big government liberal, and second he doesn’t understand the predilection to evil in fallen mankind. The goal is not now and has never been gun control. The progressive goal has always been people control. You know this because when they advocate the total disarmament of the population, they always exclude the police. It isn’t that they don’t want people to have guns, it’s that they don’t want some people to have guns. If they could be assured that you would never use your guns to upset their progressive social planners and their designs for society by killing others (even to defend your loved ones), or to prevent their tyrannical designs, they wouldn’t mind you having all the guns your heart desires. But they cannot trust you with those boundary conditions, and so every machine of the state must be properly tuned to work at their disposal. Thus, no one can ever get off of the no-fly list once they have made it on. The decisions for the terrorist watch list and no-fly list are made in secret by the federal executive, and are subject only to the FISA court, which ends up being a rubber stamp for the federal executive. The terrorist watch list and the no-fly list is different, and they leverage this difference and use it to their advantage when they discuss this in front of the cameras. Furthermore, there is nothing to stop them from, say, adding all NRA members to the list, or adding you to the list, if you’re reading this article. After all, they have said they believe that the “right wing terror threat” is the biggest threat facing America today. No one in the MSM has the guts to ask why someone who is a “terrorist” is allowed to be in America to begin with. It would force the executive to admit to all of his plans for social change, his open borders policy, the fact that none of these lists are subject to due process, no jury has decided on the fate of pitiful souls who have run afoul of the system, and all such souls are left to the devices of an out-of-control executive who doesn’t care, and sends their problems to judges who have been educated at Harvard, Yale and Emory. Is anyone really surprised at this? After all, a Syrian immigrant who said 9/11 changed the world for good is a homeland security advisor. They will call light darkness and darkness light. If you believe that the second amendment is in place to ameliorate tyranny, you must be eradicated because you’re the enemy, a right-wing terrorist. Or so they seem to think. And that’s the point, isn’t it? Guns are good, and they know it. They are wonderful machines, just like cars, stoves, and HVAC. But in the “wrong” hands they can prevent the grand social designs of the ruling class. Again, the goal isn’t to destroy the gun companies. That would mean no one had guns, and no one includes them. The goal is to control whether you have them, and to do that they won’t be so obvious as to pass a law against all gun ownership. The Fuds in the hunting clubs will be left alone to purchase their shotguns for dove and quail hunting. They don’t want to anger the gentlemanly class. They will go after you by the terrorist watch list, the no-fly list, and any other assortment of executive powers and decisions and regulations and rulings. They will never confiscate your guns. They will prevent you from renewing your driver’s license, your hunting license, your fishing license, your professional license, your bank cards, your concealed handgun permits, and in short, all the framework you have built your entire life as a law abiding, peaceable citizen. Then they will go after your wife and children and their ability to enroll in education. They will go after what matters most to you. If you’re focused on guns rather than people and their relationship to the ruling class, you need to be recalibrated. Don’t ever give up your guns, but think smart and be strategic. If they can’t take you guns directly, they will attempt to control you by other means. If you’re disappointed in Donald Trump, be prepared for more to come. This is only the beginning. The GOP elitists cannot be trusted, and couldn’t care less for your ability to defend your family. The democrats want your soul, but will settle for your servitude. If they can’t come in through the front door, they will come in through the back door. Conspiracy theories are sometimes correct, but sometimes they blind you to the real situation. This is about more than campaign donations. This is about controlling you, and therefore, controlling your guns by extension. 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#2. To: Stoner (#0)
Why?
Are you serious? Here are the facts. With the current environment, the buying frenzy has started again. If the Congress re institutes a ban on them, prices will go up, and supply will shrink.
You presented nothing but regurgitated hysteria, as though you know some facts. Got any facts to convince anyone to run out and buy an enhanced battle rifle? As an example, suppose I know how to shoot a simple Weatherby Vangurad .308? or even a Winchester 1895 .30-.03 and reload my own bullets with the understanding that I add or subtract the amount of grains for the reload based on windage and a few other environmental conditions? What if I could already shoot a tight group with a 2" circle @300yards? Why do I want to runout and buy an EBR, when I can already knock out my target?
My original statement: " if you do not own a EBR, and want one, better hurry and get it now ! " Obviously you do not want one. So disregard, as your question is nonsensical.
Obviously you do not want one. So disregard, as your question is nonsensical. Why so defensive? Why are you interested selling EBRs on LF?
" Why so defensive? " I m not. Why are you so offensive Bucky ? "Why are you interested selling EBRs on LF? " I am not, I really do not care what anyone does. I simply pointed out a fact
OK. Why do I or anyone else require to run out and buy a EBR?
#10. To: buckeroo (#9)
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You really do have a reading comprehension problem. I stated IF you want one. You stated you do not want one. Fine You obviously are one of those assholes that just like to argue, and stir up shit. I have no desire or inclination to waste time with a juvenile such as yourself. Arrivederci
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