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Trump said that if some of the clubgoers on that evening in Orlando had guns, someone would have been able to take out the shooter - as discussed here as well. "If we had people where the bullets were going in the opposite direction, right smack between the eyes of this maniac. If some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right to their waist, or right to their ankle, and this son of a bitch comes out and starts shooting, and one of the people in that room happened to have it, and goes 'boom', you know what that would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight." * * * So far, no witty tweets from Hillary in response to this. Poster Comment: Nor do we have any witty explanations from the canary Klan on why they APPROVE of States having the power to decree GUN FREE ZONES... And to require State licenses to carry concealed.. Could it be LF'S canarys are closet anti-gun nuts? Phonies? You betcha.... Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: tpaine (#0) buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-18   19:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: buckeroo (#1) I did not laugh. Was that supposed to be funny ? It was NOT ! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Stoner  posted on  2016-06-18   19:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: tpaine (#0) WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump is backtracking from his contention that victims of the Orlando massacre should have been allowed to carry arms into the nightclub where they were attacked — a stance even the NRA says is untenable. The presumptive Republican presidential nominee tweeted Monday that he was "obviously talking about additional guards or employees" of the Florida nightclub when he spoke about the value of having more people armed to challenge the gunman. That flies in the face of his comments after the massacre. A day after the attack, he told radio host Howie Carr: "It's too bad that some of the young people that were killed over the weekend didn't have guns, you know, attached to their hips, frankly, and you know where bullets could have flown in the opposite direction, Howie. It would have been a much different deal. I mean, it sounded like there were no guns. They had a security guard. Other than that there were no guns in the room. Had people been able to fire back, it would have been a much different outcome." Trump had repeated his suggestion at rallies across the country last week. In Atlanta he said the carnage would have been lessened if "some of those great people that were in that club that night had guns strapped to their waist or strapped to their ankle." His statements were a step too far for the National Rifle Association, a powerful lobby for armed self-defense and broad permissions to carry weapons. "No one thinks that people should go into a nightclub drinking and carrying firearms," the NRA's chief lobbyist, Chris Cox, told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "That defies common sense. It also defies the law." As Trump revised his position on the matter, the Senate prepared to vote Monday on expanded gun background checks and proposals to keep people on a government terrorism watch list or other suspected terrorists from buying guns. But prospects for any significant change in gun laws were dim. The Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen, was added to a government watch list of people known or suspected of being involved in terrorist activities in 2013, when he was investigated for inflammatory statements to co-workers. But he was pulled from that database when that investigation was closed 10 months later. Trump made the case on the weekend that the U.S. should consider profiling Muslims inside the country as a terrorism-fighting tool, the latest example of his backing positions that could single out a group based on its religion. "We really have to look at profiling," Trump told CBS's "Face the Nation." ''It's not the worst thing to do." Trump's proposal runs counter to Justice Department policy, which prohibits profiling on the basis of race, religion, ethnicity and national origin. That profiling ban applies not only to federal agents but also to local law enforcement officers who participate in federal task forces. Trump's increasing embrace of policies that could isolate Muslims in America is extraordinary for a candidate assured of his party's presidential nomination. The proposals have been roundly criticized by many Republican leaders, including House Speaker Paul Ryan. Civil libertarians, Muslims and others also have strongly disagreed, arguing that profiling is unconstitutional and often constitutes unlawful discrimination based on race, religion and other factors. Trump's statements are consistent with his long-expressed views on how to stop terrorism in the United States, most notably a freeze on the entry of foreign Muslims in the U.S. But he's intensified his approach since Mateen carried out the worst mass shooting in modern American history on June 12. Forty-nine people were killed in the attack. On Sunday, Trump also said the government should investigate mosques in the U.S. in much the same way a New York Police Department unit spied on Muslims and mosques around the city with help from the CIA. ___ Associated Press writers Jill Colvin in New York and Eric Tucker in Washington contributed to this report. Oh, miserable mortals! Oh wretched earth! Oh, dreadful assembly of all mankind! Eternal sermon of useless sufferings! Deluded philosophers who cry, “All is well,” Hasten, contemplate these frightful ruins, (Voltaire) tomder55  posted on  2016-06-20   9:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: tomder55 (#3) His statements were a step too far for the National Rifle Association, a powerful lobby for armed self-defense and broad permissions to carry weapons. "No one thinks that people should go into a nightclub drinking and carrying firearms," the NRA's chief lobbyist, Chris Cox, told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "That defies common sense. It also defies the law." It defies unconstitutional law.. I'd bet that a LOT of bars across the USA have people in them carrying guns. And very few gunfights. -- It's "common sense" that most people, even after a few drinks, will NOT attempt to use a firearm, -- where others could do the same. The NRA is dead wrong in taking this position. Concealed carry is constitutional. Attempting to use a gun (except for defense) in anger, drunken or otherwise, is a criminal assault. tpaine  posted on  2016-06-20   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: tpaine (#0) Trump: If Orlando Clubgoers Had Guns And Shot That "Son Of A Bitch" It Would Have Been "A Beautiful Sight" The picture of a bunch of those gang bangers and LGBT perverts drunk in a dark gay bar firing off weapons at each other in response wouldn't have been considered such a great sight either. I notice when Trump was questioned on this on CBS Sunday he immediately backtracked and said the opposite, well of course he didn't want the patrons to be carrying guns. TrappedInMd  posted on  2016-06-21   8:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: tpaine, tomder55 (#4) I'd bet that a LOT of bars across the USA have people in them carrying guns. And very few gunfights. -- It's "common sense" that most people, even after a few drinks, will NOT attempt to use a firearm, -- where others could do the same. I been in a lot better bars than that cesspool where guys after a few drinks pick fights with others who have no sense of winning and wake up in the hospital claiming they don't remember anything. Its the Superman syndrome. Good thing they didn't have a gun on them. TrappedInMd  posted on  2016-06-21   9:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: TrappedInMd, y'all (#5) (Edited) I notice when Trump was questioned on this on CBS Sunday he immediately backtracked and said the opposite, well of course he didn't want the patrons to be carrying guns Yep, Trump is rapidly learning the political bullshit needed to be elected. But his initial reaction was correct, --- if everyone could carry, if there were NO gun free zones, we could defend ourselves from both terrorists, and from creeps picking fights in bars. --- Not that there would be many barroom tough guys left after armed citizens took them down. "An armed society is a polite society", is true. tpaine  posted on  2016-06-21   13:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: TrappedInMd (#6) (Edited) A friend of mine owned a bar in a gay yuppie area once in a while my friend and I would go to I went up to the crowded bar to get a few beers I over heard one guy / gay say to another guy / gay < quote > I'm going to bite your ear < quote / > after I got back to the table he did it keep America straight great again love boris ps this was thirty years ago pss once in a night club my friend almost got knocked over by a queer for talking to me pss what's so gay about these crazies If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! BorisY  posted on  2016-06-21   14:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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