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Title: Senate Democrats are reviving a controversial bill after the Orlando massacre
Source: businessinsider.com
URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/sena ... hooting-gun-bill-terror-2016-6
Published: Jun 14, 2016
Author: Allan Smith
Post Date: 2016-06-14 10:41:42 by Stoner
Keywords: None
Views: 603
Comments: 4

Senate Democrats pledged on Monday to reintroduce a bill banning people on the terror watch list from buying weapons in the aftermath of Sunday morning's massacre at an LGBTQ nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

The massacre left at least 49 people dead and dozens more wounded. It was the deadliest mass shooting in US history.

The suspected gunman, Omar Mateen, 29, was born in the US to Afghan parents, and, according to his father, was recently disturbed by seeing two men kissing in Miami.

The shooting is being investigated as an act of terrorism, as Mateen allegedly pledged allegiance to ISIS and other terrorist organizations before the attack. The FBI confirmed that it had conducted two terror-related investigations into Mateen in recent years.

During a Monday conference call, Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York said that, if the bill was passed when first brought before the Senate in December, then the terrorist attack would've been avoided.

In December, just one day following the San Bernardino, California, attacks, Senate Republicans rejected the bill stopping suspected terrorists from buying weapons. The counterargument to the bill is that, since people can be placed on the terror watch list - also referred to as the no-fly list - without due process, then a citizen could be stripped of his or her Second Amendment right without due process.

The bill failed on a 54-45 party-line vote. North Dakota Sen. Heidi Headlamp was the lone Democrat to vote against the bill while Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk was the lone Republican to vote in favor of it. Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, a Democrat, did not vote.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein sponsored the legislation, and argued, as she did again during the Monday conference call, that former President George W. Bush initially proposed the legislation in 2007.

"Now that we have lone wolves inspired by ISIL, even more [see] the reason to do this than ever before," Schumer said. "It made sense 10 years ago, it makes even more sense today."

The Democratic senator said that the bill might be tucked into a recent appropriations bill brought before the Senate by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid also insisted on Monday that his party will be bringing the bill before Congress "as soon as possible."

"We're just asking for people to come into this country and go out and buy a gun," Feinstein said during the call with reporters, later adding, "Even if you're a suspected terrorist, you can go out and buy a gun. And that's just not right. So I hope there will be a change."

hillary clinton Hillary Clinton. Angelo Merendino/Getty Images

Both presumptive presidential nominees, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, voiced their opinions on this issue during dueling Monday speeches. Trump promised to do nothing in regards to promoting gun-control legislation, while Clinton expressed solidarity with the Democratic senators.

Clinton said:

If the FBI is watching you for suspected terrorist links, then you shouldn't be able to just go buy a gun with no questions asked. You shouldn't be able to exploit loopholes and evade criminal background checks by buying online or at a gun show. And yes, if you're too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.

Schumer insisted on Monday that the bill will do better this time around.

He said:

The bottom line is we have to keep trying, and I believe our Republican colleagues, particularly so many of them now in a difficult political season, are going to find it very very difficult [to vote against the bill]. We've had two incidents: San Bernardino and now Orlando where this type of legislation would be relevant, making sure the terrorists don't get guns.

He added that the bill will include provisions for a "quick and speedy appeals process" for those placed on the terror watch list.

"Believe me," he said. "President Bush wouldn't have put together a bill that took away people's legitimate rights."

But, he said, rights don't "trump everything."

"We can have both," he continued. "We can have people's rights protected and we can have safety. And that's what this legislation does. As I said, George Bush, who was hardly the strongest advocate of gun control in America, drafted it."

Also on the conference call, Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said that "all rights have to be balanced."

"No right is absolute," he said, adding that the bill "would provide a due process to remove people from the list ... that is an absolute requirement."

"Many of our Republican colleagues who are hardline on individual rights on this amendment seem to blow those rights away on other amendments," Schumer said. "Hardly consistent."

"In terms of terrorism, this is the most effective piece of legislation we can pass," he continued.


The Demonturds are so stupid. It would make more sense, and be more practical to not let people on the terror list into the country to begin with. But the Demonturds lack logic.

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#1. To: Stoner (#0)

The Demonturds are so stupid. It would make more sense, and be more practical to not let people on the terror list into the country to begin with. But the Demonturds lack logic.

One of these imports just killed 2 people in France with a knife.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-06-14   10:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#1)

" One of these imports just killed 2 people in France with a knife. "

But, but, Islam is a religion of peace. So said el georgo Busho, Obunghole, and Shitlery.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-14   10:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#0)

Senate Democrats pledged on Monday to reintroduce a bill banning people on the terror watch list from buying weapons in the aftermath of Sunday morning's massacre at an LGBTQ nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

Hey how about banning anyone who is being investigated by the fbi from running for president.

The womb, the most dangerous place on earth.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-06-14   16:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste (#3)

" Hey how about banning anyone who is being investigated by the fbi from running for president. "

Makes perfect sense to me

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-15   8:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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