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Title: Orlando , Florida Pulse Gay Bar Is Gun Free Zone
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Published: Jun 12, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-06-12 13:34:53 by tpaine
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Orlando , Florida Pulse Gay Bar Is Gun Free Zone

www.leg.st at e.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm ^ | June 12,2016 | Florida

Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose.

Bars are one of a long list of places that Florida establishes as gun free zones.

From Florida Statutes leg.state.fl.us:

(12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:
1. Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
2. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
3.  Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
4. Any courthouse;
5.   Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
6. Any polling place;
7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
8. Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
9. Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;
11. Any career center;
12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
13. Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
14. The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or
15. Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
(b)  A person licensed under this section shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.

Florida has the most concealed carry permits issued of any state in the nation, but it did the occupants of the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando no good because it is a gun free zone by state law

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#15. To: buckeroo (#13)

I am not just a potato peeler.

I am THE GREATEST POTATO PEELER living off the fat o' the land by the good grace of thousands of hard working Americans.

And I sincerely thank you for your contributions to my health and well being.

ROTFL ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#15)

And I sincerely thank you for your contributions to my health and well being.

We will remove your free handouts in the near future when we get a change of management in Congress.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-12   15:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#4)

"The cops on duty for the security at or in the club were armed."

I thought I read that the first person shot was the security guard. Then the shooter went inside.

The way I heard it on the news was that a security guard (a cop) was outside and engaged the terrorist before the terrorist got inside. Those early reports are sometime unreliable ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#16)

And I sincerely thank you for your contributions to my health and well being.

We will remove your free handouts in the near future when we get a change of management in Congress.

Then you will be depriving some wonderful charities of goodly sums of money.

But you don't give a fuck about anyone except yourself, so that will not matter to you ... dumb ass Paultard.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

Then you will be depriving some wonderful charities of goodly sums of money.

Good. We don't need you deciding how to make transfer payments.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-12   15:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tpaine (#0)

Gay Bar Is Gun Free Zone

Most faggots don't carry guns anyway. Most are libtarded. They expect others to protect them. I guess that shit didn't work that well.

More fuel for Trumps fire. Fuckin filthy diaper head.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-12   15:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#14)

I am just The Great Pretender.

You sure are.

That's a great old song, very popular the year I was in basic. -- which I doubt you ever experienced, given your politics.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-12   15:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine (#7)

I'm trying to say that the jihadist would have been shot down by armed customers before he had the chance to kill as many as he did.

A statement based upon an invalid assumption can surely display gross ignorance.

You have no way of knowing what would or would not have happened if it were not a gun free zone.

Wait, I forgot ... you are one of those Paultards who can read a headline and form an opinion without ever reading the article.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#20)

More fuel for Trumps fire. Fuckin filthy diaper head.

Now you're calling Trump names?

Weird fella.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-12   15:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ConservingFreedom (#9)

Yup. People who say nobody needs guns because the police will protect us are painting targets on all our chests.

Has anyone "said" that on LF?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tpaine (#0)

This event smacks of a government Pirate Flag operation designed to make Moooslims and gay loving libertarians look bad.

Carry on.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-12   15:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin, tpaine (#22)

You have no way of knowing what would or would not have happened if it were not a gun free zone.

I think there are grounds for an educated hypothesis: "The First Responders Report™ brings you stories of people who are alive today because they had fully loaded, readily accessible firearms for their intended purpose -- to protect innocent life and property from criminal assault when it is immediately necessary -- actions you can take that are guaranteed by law." - www.gunlaws.com/The FirstRespondersReport.htm

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-12   15:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tpaine, GrandIsland (#23)

More fuel for Trumps fire. Fuckin filthy diaper head.

Now you're calling Trump names?

Weird fella.

You got that turned around ... confused as always.

Trump ain't no fuckin filthy diaper head ... Trump is no Paultard living in California.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#24)

Not that I've noticed.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-12   15:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin, the gungrabber, recants on gun free zones? (#22)

To, All you gungabbers, misterwhite, roscoe, nolu Chan, gatlin, grandisland, Willy Green (#0) (Edited)

How's the gun free zone 'law' in Florida strike you fellas?

All of the Klan above are on record favoring such state laws.

Whatever you are trying to say or prove is not valid here.
I'm trying to say that the jihadist would have been shot down by armed customers before he had the chance to kill as many as he did.

You're trying to defend a state 'law' that's indefensible, and unconstitutional.

A statement based upon an invalid assumption can surely display gross ignorance. --- You have no way of knowing what would or would not have happened if it were not a gun free zone.

You defend gun free zone legislation in the thread posted this morning.

Now you deny that position?

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-12   15:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: ConservingFreedom (#26)

I think there are grounds for an educated hypothesis

If he meant it to be, then I could take it as such.

But knowing tapine ... I will have a hard time believing he did.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tpaine (#29) (Edited)

You defend gun free zone legislation in the thread posted this morning.

Now you deny that position?

No need to deny anything.

What I said this morning was that I believe states individually have the right to regulate interstate commerce and the feds have the right to regulate intrastate commerce.

I still believe that.

I am a firm believer of States Rights ... the old George Wallace School sans any racism.

I have never called for a gun free zone at anytime or for anyplace.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ConservingFreedom (#28)

Thanks, I was wondering if I missed it.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#13)

... living off the fat o' the land ...

Living off the fat of the land ... Ah ya, ole Bobby McGee!!

ROTFL ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#19)

Then you will be depriving some wonderful charities of goodly sums of money.

Good. We don't need you deciding how to make transfer payments.

Not a problem ...

I never have to decide anything about personal finances, I have accountants programmed to do that for me.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ConservingFreedom (#28)

ivn.us/2012/11/10/how-did...-perform-in-the-election/

In 2012, Virgil Goode, of the Constitution Party, received 4,130 votes,which represents <1% of the popular vote. He was on the ballot in 26 states and as a write-in in 13 states.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-12   15:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Vinny (#35)

In 2012, Virgil Goode, of the Constitution Party, received 4,130 votes,which represents <1% of the popular vote.

Did you have a point?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-12   15:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tpaine (#21)

That's a great old song, very popular the year I was in basic. -- which I doubt you ever experienced, given your politics.

Doubt what you will ... you always do, regardless of what information is presented to you.

All Paultards suffer form that affliction ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#31)

I believe states individually have the right to regulate interstate commerce and the feds have the right to regulate intrastate commerce.

Are you sure you didn't get that backward?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-12   15:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin, now in denial, supports States Rights, but claims they can't write gun free zones ' laws ' (#31)

I have never called for a gun free zone at anytime or for anyplace.

I say let the forum readers decide what you wrote regarding the rights of States to regulate guns: ---

Title: Peruta v San Diego Cty, no 2nd Amdt right to concealed Carry

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-12   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tpaine, Gatlin (#27)

You got that turned around ... confused as always.

Gatlin is quite a bit smarter than you. Even that filthy gorilla that was shot a few weeks ago would have known what I was sayin.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-12   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: ConservingFreedom (#38) (Edited)

I believe states individually have the right to regulate interstate commerce and the feds have the right to regulate intrastate commerce.

Are you sure you didn't get that backward?

Yea, I did.

Slow down, Gatlin.

Thanks ...

Edit: You are probably the only one that caught it since most people read what they want to read into something.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-12   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: ConservingFreedom (#36)

You betcha! I have a point.

The Constitution Party has app. 158 supporters in 26 states.

I think Vermin Supreme received more votes.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-12   16:12:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: GrandIsland, can't refute he's a Statist, so it's back to silly comments (#40)

Gatlin is quite a bit smarter than you ---

Only to a dimwitted oaf like you, your grandiosity.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-12   16:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Vinny (#42)

You betcha! I have a point.

The Constitution Party has app. 158 supporters in 26 states.

I think Vermin Supreme received more votes.

Seems to me like a pointless point.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-12   17:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tpaine (#7)

How's the gun free zone 'law' in Florida strike you fellas?

Remind me. Which one of your beloved federal court judges overruled it under the new nationalized 2nd Amendment?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-06-12   23:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Roscoe (#45)

How's the gun free zone 'law' in Florida strike you fellas?

Remind me. Which one of your beloved federal court judges --

¿ -- You're confused, as usual. I don't love no judges...

---overruled it under the new nationalized 2nd Amendment?

Newly nationalized? The 2nd has always applied to the States.

Your Klan insists otherwise, but we all know they're just canaries.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   0:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: tpaine (#46) (Edited)

The 2nd has always applied to the States.

Invincible ignorance combined with too much cowardice to answer the question.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-06-13   10:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Roscoe (#47)

How's the gun free zone 'law' in Florida strike you fellas?

Remind me. Which one of your beloved federal court judges overruled it under the new nationalized 2nd Amendment?

I don't love no judges, and none have 'overruled' such 'laws' --- because they agree with them. --As you gungrabbers do.

Invincible ignorance combined with too much cowardice to answer the question.

Your own cowardice prevents you from answering my question, - why do you support gun free zone laws?

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   12:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Roscoe (#47)

"The 2nd has always applied to the States."

"The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government ..."
-- United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

But maybe I'm reading that wrong, huh?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-06-13   13:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite, Y'ALL, --- calling all canary Klan members --- (#49)

Roscoe (#47) --- "The 2nd has always applied to the States."

That's a quote from my post, but it's not surprising, (coward that you are) that you addressed it to roscoe.

"The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government ..." -- United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

The cruikshank opinion does not change the clear words of the 2nd, as written.

But maybe I'm reading that wrong, huh?

You have been for years. -- The question is WHY? -Why do you want to allow States like California to ignore our gun rights?

I realize you're to cowardly to answer this question, so I hope one of your canary Klan buddies will ...

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   13:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: misterwhite (#49)

But maybe I'm reading that wrong, huh?

The coward has crawled away from historical facts a thousand times.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-06-13   13:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Roscoe, needs help ! (#51)

The cruikshank opinion does not change the clear words of the 2nd, as written.

But maybe I'm reading that wrong, huh?

You have been for years. -- The question is WHY? -Why do you want to allow States like California to ignore our gun rights?

I realize you're to cowardly to answer this question, so I hope one of your canary Klan buddies will ...

misterwhite (#49) --- But maybe I'm reading that wrong, huh? ---- The coward has crawled away from historical facts a thousand times.

True to form, cowardly roscoe posts lies without pinging.

I don't dispute the historical fact that there have been millions of you gungrabbers working since the founding to infringe on the 2nd..

I ask why you want to, and you cowards can't answer.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   13:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: tpaine (#0)

Orlando , Florida Pulse Gay Bar Is Gun Free Zone

Not any more.

The womb, the most dangerous place on earth.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-06-13   20:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: BobCeleste (#53)

Orlando , Florida Pulse Gay Bar Is Gun Free Zone

Not any more. ---- BobCeleste

Too bad the canary Klan doesn't realise that, isn't it?

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   20:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: tpaine (#54)

Yes. But alas, kind of hard for folks who have been cursed with reprobate minds, but God, to think rationally and/or logically not to mention critically.

The womb, the most dangerous place on earth.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-06-14   10:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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