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Title: About 20 people dead in gay nightclub shooting, Orlando police say
Source: latimes
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio ... oting-20160612-snap-story.html
Published: Jun 12, 2016
Author: Orlando Sentinel
Post Date: 2016-06-12 09:23:15 by Stoner
Keywords: None
Views: 12204
Comments: 72

A gunman took people hostage overnight inside Pulse nightclub in Orlando, where about 20 people were killed and 42 were taken to the hospital, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said at a morning news conference.

The gunman, who has not been identified, was carrying an assault rifle, a handgun and a "device." The Orange County Sheriff’s Office hazardous device team is now searching the area.

The FBI is assisting with the investigation. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme ideologies.

Witnesses said they heard at least 40 shots fired inside the popular gay club and estimated that at least 20 people had been shot.

Police reported just before 6 a.m. that the shooter inside the club was dead. Mina said his officers exchanged gunfire with the suspect in two shootings. Nine officers were involved in the shooting and one sustained an injury to his head and was saved by his helmet.

Dozens of emergency vehicles surrounded the chaotic scene at the club at 1912 S. Orange Ave. after the 2 a.m. shooting and rescue squads were transporting multiple victims to area hospitals.

The Orlando Fire Department called for its bomb squad and hazardous material team to the scene after 3 a.m. Police K-9 dogs are searching the area around nearby Orlando Regional Medical Center with an armed deputy in head-to-toe military gear.

Emergency workers were seen taking victims away from the scene in large trucks--in one case, an emergency worker was doing chest compressions on one of the victims.

Just after the shooting, Pulse Orlando posted a note to its web page that said "Everyone get out of Pulse and keep running." The popular gay bar was full of people at the time of the incident. Mass shooting at Orlando nightclub

Emotional witnesses and family members of those who were in the club surrounded the area around the club after the shooting, which one witness said lasted the duration of an entire song.

Javer Antonetti, 53, went out to the club with his brother. He was toward the back of the room when he heard shots ring out.

"There were so many, at least 40," he said. "I saw two guys and it was constant, like 'pow, pow, pow,' " he said.

He said he ran out of the club. His brother is on crutches and was stuck inside. Antonetti said authorities were able to help save his brother, who he says is uninjured but still near the club.

"I'm not going anywhere," he said. "Police told me he's safe but he's still stuck back there."

He's waiting near Orlando Regional Medical Center. Antonetti noticed when he made it out safe that he has blood smears on his shirt. He said he doesn't know how they got there and didn't see how many were injured.

Witness Rosie Feba said she took her girlfriend to the club for the first time Saturday night.

It was near closing time.

"She told me someone was shooting. Everyone was getting on the floor," Feba said. "I told her I didn't think it was real, I thought it was just part of the music, until I saw fire coming out of his gun."

Feba and her girlfriend ran out of the club. On the way out, they saw a man who had been shot.

Feba grabbed him. Others around her called 911. Some of the man's blood stained the sleeve of her striped T-shirt.

Both Feba and her girlfriend were unharmed, but shaken. They waited in a CVS parking lot for more information.

Friday night, singer Christina Grimmie was fatally shot as she signed autographs after performing at the Plaza Live theater in Orlando. Grimmie had gained fame as a YouTube performer and a contestant on “The Voice.”


FBI on scene awfully quick. Read on another site where posters were speculating that the shooter was one of Obungholes pet muzzie imports. IDK.

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#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

There are good elements about free trade practices between neighboring countries if and only if, national soverignty is fully respected. The way the US government has it all set is a serious problem for all of us.

That's right, you liberaltarians are also in favor of the trade policies that have de-industrialized vast swaths of America. If it weakens America, liberaltarians are for it.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-06-12   11:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Stoner (#21)

Thanks for the info. He was of the religion of peace.

I suspect we will see more attacks like this.

This is a case of democrat on democrat violence.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-06-12   11:28:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: nativist nationalist (#17)

My way is more accurate Buckwheat. You guys want to let in a billion welfare consumers from the turd world as part of your policy of shrinking government.

It's you guys that want the welfare to be here to bait them in!

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-06-12   11:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nativist nationalist (#19)

If we'd had an America First immigration policy we'd be paying a lot less in welfare.

If you had a liberatarian policy, you wouldn't have any welfare. Period.

But you want the government to be giving handouts. That's why you are not a libertarian.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-06-12   11:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pinguinite (#25)

It's you guys that want the welfare to be here to bait them in!

I'm against it, stupid liberaltarians want to allow unlimited numbers into America into America to consume welfare and vote for more of. You guys would be happy to allow a billion turd world immigrants into America.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-06-12   11:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: nativist nationalist (#23)

Again, you are confused about libertarianism. The internationalists that reside on Wall Street and typically elect your government leaders have performed the destruction you mention.

All US/state/county/local government elections are rigged to ensure GHBush's "one world order." Of course, he was an internationalist and a registered GOP mannequin.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-12   11:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nativist nationalist (#27)

I'm against it, stupid liberaltarians want to allow unlimited numbers into America into America to consume welfare and vote for more of.

LOLOL!!!!

So it's the fault of the liberatians that welfare is a problem! And libertarians are not even running things. You are sooooooooooo cute!!

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-06-12   11:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Pinguinite, nativist nationalist (#29)

nativist nationalist seems to have his head screwed on backwards, doesn't he/she?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-12   11:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#30)

At some point, laughing is all one can do!

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-06-12   12:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pinguinite (#31)

For me, its not a laffing matter. Their confusion, is why the nation is all fuckedupped.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-12   12:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#32)

The number dead has moved to at least 50 dead.

Justified  posted on  2016-06-12   13:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Justified (#33)

" The number dead has moved to at least 50 dead. "

The USA will experience more of these attacks. The only question is WHEN & WHERE ?

This is not a good time to go out to large gatherings of people. Better watch your 6, and maintain situational awareness. If you do not already have your CCL, better get moving.

Obunghole, Shitlery, and others will be using this as an excuse for more gun and magazine bans. You can bet that by Tuesday, prices will be UP, and supply will be DOWN.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-12   13:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pinguinite (#29)

So it's the fault of the liberatians that welfare is a problem! And libertarians are not even running things.

Open borders is a key tenet of liberaltarian theology. Liberaltarians are just cuckservatives who like to smoke dope.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-06-12   15:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#34)

Have read on a couple other forums that ammo is selling out fast at Walmart today. In a number of cities/states. I have not been out to witness personally.

A friend of mine that I talked to short while ago went earlier to a Wal Mart the next county over. He tells me no 9mm, no .45, no .357, no .223, no .308, no .40, and naturally no .22 lr. He said 12 ga was low, mostly birdshot no 6. Some 30-30, and some bastard calibers. Said he went ahead and bought some of the 12 ga and 30-30. He said the clerk told him had been crazy all morning.

It has started.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-12   18:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nativist nationalist (#35)

Open borders is a key tenet of liberaltarian theology.

It's not a "key" tenet. It is one plank of a large platform. And it's one I don't even agree with.

Liberaltarians are just cuckservatives who like to smoke dope.

Stereotypical hogwash.

Most libertarians are cold, rational thinkers. The scientific types. The emotionally sensitive types tend to be the liberals which have very little in common with libertarians, because they tend to favor having the government give hand outs.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-06-12   23:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#2)

Orlando Killer Was NYPD Fan - This Tells Us What?

Last night some deadbeat loser killed more than 50 people in a gay club in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest shooting massacre in the U.S. since Wounded Knee. According to his ex-wife the man, one Omar Mateen, used to beat her and was not religious. He had worked for the private prison and mercenary corporation G4S for more than five years. There were U.S. Marines stickers on his car.

Earlier Mateen took pictures of himself and posted those on Myspace. The pics are selfies and mostly not remarkable but in TWO of them he wears shirts with New York Police Department emblems on them.


(pictures flipped for better readability)

This tells us what?

  • The guy was a follower of the NYPD?
  • He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD?
  • G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?

There is currently a lot of speculation, but no public evidence, that the guy was also a fan of the Islamic State (ISIS) death cult. None of the pictures he posted points into that direction, but it still may be the case.

But what does that really tell us?

Was his emotional relation to ISIS as strong as his emotional relation to the NYPD?

Do such assumed allegiances tell us anything at all?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-13   7:59:12 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#38) (Edited)

The guy was a follower of the NYPD? He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD? G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?

That whole post was as stupid as a 17 year old Paultard in the 3rd grade.

Ask yourself who killed this piece of worthless diaper head shit. Was it the military? No. Was it an armed faggot? No. Was it Ron Pailtard himself? Fuck no. Was it one of the armed rabid Paultard government hating, revolt threatening militia? NO.

It was who you claim he loved and admired.... LAW ENFORCEMENT. Dumb shit.

Good thing we train, arm and equip LE with the kind of gear it takes to wipe out domestic terrorists, like yourself. I notice you didn't do anything to save the fags.

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-13   18:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GrandIsland (#39)

Yeah - great job LE.

The cops and Feds could have stopped this massacre - but they didn't.

US Law Enforcement Knew Florida Shooter BEFORE Shooting

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok?

At least you aren't trying to conceal the fact that you are thrilled to see the 50-some "faggots" murdered.

Too much of a coward to do it yourself I suppose.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-13   20:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#40)

The cops and Feds could have stopped this massacre - but they didn't.

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock, you'd have shit yourself in anger and posted a yella article about how the Feds shot his pitbull.

Fuck you, hypocrite

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-13   21:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete, Y'ALL (#39)

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident

Are you referring to sneakypete?

Isn't he still banned?

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: tpaine (#42)

Isn't he still banned?

I wasn't aware... but I hope so. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-13   22:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: GrandIsland (#43)

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident…

Are you referring to sneakypete?

Isn't he still banned?

I wasn't aware... but I hope so. lol

Your lack of awareness has never been disputed, but really, how low can you get, claiming "he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident…"?

You're one sick puppy...

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   22:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tpaine (#44)

It was Peter Puffer who claimed that 40% of every household has faggots in them... and I know he ain't talking about my family so it must be a Peter Puffer trait.

I wonder how many little Puffers hid under the tables and screamed like Tea Party Reveler in the fag bar?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-13   22:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: GrandIsland (#45)

It was Peter Puffer who claimed that 40% of every household has faaaggots in them... and I know he ain't talking about my family so it must be a Peter Puffer trait.

I've read that something like 10 percent of the population are fags, so no doubt your extended family has some, -- and with your phobia, I'd bet some of your close relatives are puffers.

I wonder how many little Puffers hid under the tables and screamed like --- Party Reveler in the fag bar?

Ask around during your family get togethers, -- you'll find out.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-13   23:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: GrandIsland (#41)

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock

I don't have a problem with the cops going after terrorists, so go fuck yourself.

They allowed him to by the weapons he used even after all of the red flags indicating he might carry out such an attack.

This shooter was groomed by the FBI for just this purpose.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-14   6:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: GrandIsland (#41)

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock, you'd have shit yourself in anger and posted a yella article about how the Feds shot his pitbull.

So true ... so very true!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-14   6:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#47)

They allowed him to by the weapons he used

How exactly does one by weapons?

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-14   6:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Vinny (#49)

Bugger off troll.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-14   7:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard (#50)

You have to admit mistakes like that make you sound dopey.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-14   7:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vinny (#51)

You have to admit mistakes like that make you sound dopey.

A sub-room temperature IQ simpleton like you pretending to be smart and acting like a spelling Nazi.

Is that you yukon?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-14   7:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Vinny (#49)

Typo flames - very impressive.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-14   20:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: ConservingFreedom (#53)

Typo flames - very impressive.

Hush, Mr Adherent to a political party with 4800 voting members.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-15   5:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Deckard, Vinny (#50)

Bugger off troll.

Oh, Vinny, “woe unto thee” …

The first worse thing you can do on the internet is send your personal banking information to a mysterious Nigerian prince. The second worse thing is to is to question even the most tepid comment by a Paultard.

Now you have gone and done it this second worse thing, Vinny, and you have enraged LF’s resident petulant libertarian child.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-15   6:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Vinny (#54)

Adherent to a political party with 4800 voting members.

You keep saying that like it means something.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-15   12:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#55)

libertarian child

"Libertarian child" is an oxymoran and Deckard is a full blown kook who on one hand believes all elections are fixed while on the other fails to see that by fixing elections gun control would be complete without the sloppy mess of a bloody, insanely risky "false flag."

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-22   8:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: ConservingFreedom (#56)

You keep saying that like it means something.

It means that promotion of the Constitution Party is a waste of time.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-22   8:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Vinny (#58)

It means that promotion of the Constitution Party is a waste of time.

Your false conclusion relies on the false assumption that taking office is the only worthwhile outcome of a campaign.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-22   8:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Vinny (#57)

Deckard is a full blown kook who on one hand believes all elections are fixed...

Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice. You don’t really have choice in this country.

All the things that are important reduced in choice; newspapers in a city how many, used to be three, four; now it’s one or two; is it owned by the same people and they also own radio station.

Give these people a voting day every year, so that they’ll have the illusion of meaningless choice, meaningless choice that we go like slaves and say, "Joe, I voted."

The limits of debate in this country are, are, are established before the debate even begins.

And everyone else is marginalized, and made to seem there to be communist or some sort of disloyal person. A kook, there is a word and now it’s conspiracy, say, they made that something that’s, that is, that is should not be even entertained for a minute that powerful people might get together and have a plan, it doesn’t happen you are a kook, you are a conspiracy buff, a conspiracy buff.

*****

...while on the other fails to see that by fixing elections gun control would be complete without the sloppy mess of a bloody, insanely risky "false flag."

That is probably the most idiotic statement I've seen anyone here make.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-22   14:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Deckard (#60)

Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice.

Goof ball, why doesn't the PTB usher in gun control via fixed elections rather than messy, risky "false flags"?

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-22   19:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: ConservingFreedom (#59)

Never use the word false twice in a sentence. Now go away.

Vinny  posted on  2016-06-22   19:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Vinny (#61)

Good point Vinny.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-06-22   20:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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