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Title: Trump shocked liberals with these comments on immigration
Source: RedStateWatcher
URL Source: http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=22671
Published: Jun 5, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-06-05 14:27:15 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 3717
Comments: 28

Trump: It was legal immigrants that made America great!

Finally the 4X bankrupt bastard is suggesting some of the truth about the spirit of America.

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#4. To: buckeroo (#0)

Those legal immigrants came here without benefit of a safety net like welfare. Back then, you kicked in and carried your weight, you didn't show up on the doorstep with your hand out like the vermin invading our homeland are doing now.

Logsplitter  posted on  2016-06-05   19:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Logsplitter (#4)

you didn't show up on the doorstep with your hand out like the vermin invading our homeland are doing now.

Are they vermin because they are poor?, Are they vermin because they are hispanic? Are they vermin because they might be native americans? if they take welfare it is because the society they have come too is a little more enlightened than the society of earlier centuries. that society has recognised that poverty doesn't advantage the country, but if you are worried, turn off teh tap and give welfare to noone

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-06   2:41:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: paraclete (#5)

" turn off teh tap and give welfare to noone "

That would be a wise move.

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-06   11:28:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#6)

turn off tehe tap and give welfare to noone "

That would be a wise move.

You took my remark out of context, I was saying that if you weren't open hearted enough to give one group welfare, so, no actually it isn't, what you wind up with is millions of destitute people and much crime as it used to be in earlier centuries. We have to stop looking at problems in isolation but view society as a whole, people are driven to migration by poverty, by hunger, by war. If you want to stop them coming you have to change circumstances in their countries. Don't tell me you give aid, because what you give is paultry and tied so that the benefits flow back to your own, you promise much and deliver little. Too much of the "let them eat cake" attitude

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-06   19:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: paraclete (#7)

" Too much of the "let them eat cake" attitude "

Well, you can be all noble if you want.

Our nation has enormous problems. Being swamped by an enormous amount of illegal immigrants is contributing to those enormous problems. This is not 1800. The life boat can only hold so many. Over fill it, and EVERY ONE dies. Good intentions can only go so far before they are suicidal. You may not like it, but that is a fact.

For our nation to survive, we have to cut off the free cheese. Like it or not!

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-06   19:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Stoner (#8) (Edited)

For our nation to survive, we have to cut off the free cheese. Like it or not!

Look charge for cheese if you want to, but understand there is a reason why it happens and will continue to happen. You can build a wall, you can deport people but until you change the conditions in the home countries the tide will continue to flow. You are reaping the result of the expansionary policies of the past, withdraw to the Mississippi River, that should keep you safe for a while

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-06   20:37:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: paraclete (#9)

" until you change the conditions in the home countries the tide will continue to flow. "

What are we supposed to do? Invade? It is their country, maybe they should clean up their own homeland. We could give them arms.

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-06   21:26:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#12)

We could give them arms.

You have tried that, now they live in your country. The gun is not the answer to every problem, it certainly isn't in regard to your country. Revolution doesn't end poverty and disadvantage, look at Venezeula as an example. Are you supposed to invade, no, you might try not interfering in their politics

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-06   22:18:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: paraclete, Stoner (#14)

Revolution doesn't end poverty and disadvantage, look at Venezeula as an example.

Neither does taking from the productive and giving to the poor. Socialist have run the rich out of the country and they have no more money to steal from the productive and give to the poorlazy people.

Socialism has never failed so fast but in the end it will fail. Really who wants to work while others get to spend all day making babies while you slave in the field?

Capitalist constitutional republic is the fairest of all systems but it requires people to let the poor starve until the poor are willing to be productive and put aside their childish ways. It may seem heartless but someone has to be the grown up.

Justified  posted on  2016-06-06   23:15:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#15)

Very well stated. Simple, No Work, No Eat.

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-07   6:28:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Stoner, paraclete (#17)

Simple, No Work, No Eat.

Cut to the chase exactly!

Not saying we can't have charities to help those that really need help. By keeping government out of it for the most part we can keep corrupt politicians away from our money and let those charities we choose decide who deserves charity . Corrupt politicians have a vested interest in abusing the system get votes or push special interest[LBGT] to further twisted desire.

Justified  posted on  2016-06-07   8:08:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Justified (#18)

I agree you don't just give people welfare, that would be stupid, but surely the rules don't allow that. by all means feed them but take it out of the foriegn aid budget

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-07   8:16:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: paraclete (#19)

" foriegn aid budget "

When our nation is running a huge deficit each year, and officially in debt over 20 TRILLION dollars, plus many trillions of unfunded liabilities, why in the hell do we even have a Foreign Aid Budget?? Hummmmmm?

Also, where, exactly, in the US Constitution is the authorization for Foreign Aid??

Stoner  posted on  2016-06-07   11:36:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Stoner (#22)

No going to analyse the Constitution for you, except to say Congress can appropriate money, but a foriegn aid budget needs to be directed to immediate need not funding the UN wish list or supporting dictatorships

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-08   4:15:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: paraclete (#23)

No going to analyse the Constitution for you, except to say Congress can appropriate money,

For any damn thing it pleases? Or only for purposes explicitly authorized by the Constitution?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-08   17:20:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: ConservingFreedom (#25)

For any damn thing it pleases?

Congress doesn't seem to have a problem with appropriating money for any damn purpose it pleases

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-08 18:43:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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