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Title: Stephen Hawking baffled by dynamics of Trump's popularity
Source: AP
URL Source: http://elections.ap.org/content/ste ... led-dynamics-trumps-popularity
Published: May 30, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-05-30 14:46:19 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 6607
Comments: 62

LONDON (AP) — Stephen Hawking understands the workings of the universe — but says he cannot fathom the popularity of Donald Trump.

The British astrophysicist told ITV's morning show Monday that the presumptive Republican Party candidate for U.S. president "is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator."

Hawking also appealed to British voters to vote to keep the United Kingdom inside the European Union in a June 23 referendum. He said remaining within the EU provided essential support for British scientific research as well as its economy and security.

He said: "Gone are the days we could stand on our own against the world. We need to be part of a larger group of nations, both for our security and our trade."


WoW! Even Hawking is baffled by the "Trump Black Hole."

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#6. To: buckeroo (#0)

Even Hawking is baffled

Hawking has no accomplishments save celebrity.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   19:10:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Roscoe (#6)

Hawking has no accomplishments save celebrity.

'In his work, and in collaboration with Penrose, Hawking extended the singularity theorem concepts first explored in his doctoral thesis. This included not only the existence of singularities but also the theory that the universe might have started as a singularity. Their joint essay was the runner-up in the 1968 Gravity Research Foundation competition.[155][156] In 1970 they published a proof that if the universe obeys the general theory of relativity and fits any of the models of physical cosmology developed by Alexander Friedmann, then it must have begun as a singularity.[157][158] [159] In 1969, Hawking accepted a specially created Fellowship for Distinction in Science to remain at Caius.[160]

'In 1970, Hawking postulated what became known as the second law of black hole dynamics, that the event horizon of a black hole can never get smaller. [161] With James M. Bardeen and Brandon Carter, he proposed the four laws of black hole mechanics, drawing an analogy with thermodynamics.[162] To Hawking's irritation, Jacob Bekenstein, a graduate student of John Wheeler, went further—and ultimately correctly—to apply thermodynamic concepts literally.[163][164] In the early 1970s, Hawking's work with Carter, Werner Israel and David C. Robinson strongly supported Wheeler's no-hair theorem that no matter what the original material from which a black hole is created it can be completely described by the properties of mass, electrical charge and rotation.[165][166] His essay titled "Black Holes" won the Gravity Research Foundation Award in January 1971.[167] Hawking's first book, The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time, written with George Ellis, was published in 1973.[168]

'Beginning in 1973, Hawking moved into the study of quantum gravity and quantum mechanics.[169][168] His work in this area was spurred by a visit to Moscow and discussions with Yakov Borisovich Zel'dovich and Alexei Starobinsky, whose work showed that according to the uncertainty principle rotating black holes emit particles.[170] To Hawking's annoyance, his much- checked calculations produced findings that contradicted his second law, which claimed black holes could never get smaller,[171] and supported Bekenstein's reasoning about their entropy.[172][170] His results, which Hawking presented from 1974, showed that black holes emit radiation, known today as Hawking radiation, which may continue until they exhaust their energy and evaporate.[173][174][175] Initially, Hawking radiation was controversial. However, by the late 1970s and following the publication of further research, the discovery was widely accepted as a significant breakthrough in theoretical physics.[176][177][178] Hawking was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS) in 1974, a few weeks after the announcement of Hawking radiation. At the time, he was one of the youngest scientists to become a Fellow.[179][180]' - https://en.wikip edia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Career

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   19:17:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ConservingFreedom (#10)

In 1970, Hawking postulated what became known as the second law of black hole dynamics, that the event horizon of a black hole can never get smaller.

Theories with no applications are not accomplishments, especially when they have been refuted.

published last week on arXiv, says: “there are no black holes”- SCIENCE & TECH 27 JANUARY 2014

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   19:58:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Roscoe (#20)

Theories with no applications are not accomplishments,

By your shabby 'logic' all of quantum chromodynamics, for example, contains no accomplishments.

especially when they have been refuted.

published last week on arXiv, says: “there are no black holes”- SCIENCE & TECH 27 JANUARY 2014

Not a refutation, boob: "peers have yet to have a go at assessing his idea".

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:07:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: ConservingFreedom (#22)

"peers have yet to have a go at assessing his idea".

His being Hawking's. He refuted himself.

Bwahahaha!

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   20:10:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Roscoe (#23)

He refuted himself.

Still wrong, boob - he offered a hypothesis with only the supporting argument that it resolved an apparent paradox in a way arguably more satisfying than other proposed resolutions. And if later science shows earlier science to be incorrect, the earlier science remains no less an accomplishment, cf. Isaac Newton.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:18:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ConservingFreedom (#26)

if later science shows earlier science to be incorrect

His fame rests on that incorrect "science" (empty theorizing), which he now refutes.

Therefore, you want people to support Hillary. Or Epstein. Or that naked sicko who was prancing about at the Libertine convention.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   20:24:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Roscoe (#27)

His fame rests on that incorrect "science" (empty theorizing),

No, theorizing backed by rigorous calculation.

which he now refutes.

Wrong no matter how often you repeat it.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:26:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: ConservingFreedom (#28)

theorizing backed by rigorous calculation

Just like Global Warming.

Just out of curiosity, what would you say was the single most useful application of the black hole theorizing Hawking now rejects?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   20:33:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Roscoe (#29)

what would you say was the single most useful application of the black hole theorizing

Perplexing boobs like you.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:38:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ConservingFreedom (#30)

I figured you would punk out.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   20:38:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Roscoe (#31)

Quantum chromodynamics has no useful applications - dismiss it if you like, but your betters know better.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:43:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: ConservingFreedom (#32)

Quantum chromodynamics

You're such a craven coward. Let's try again:

Just out of curiosity, what would you say was the single most useful application of the black hole theorizing Hawking now rejects?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   20:49:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Roscoe (#33)

Let's try again:

Try putting 2 and 2 together, dimwit.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   20:55:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ConservingFreedom (#34)

Try putting 2 and 2 together

And the coward flees again.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   21:00:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Roscoe (#35)

Ah, what the hell, I'll spoonfeed you: black hole theory has had no useful applications to date. So what?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   21:02:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ConservingFreedom (#36)

black hole theory has had no useful applications to date

Stephen Hawking: “there are no black holes”

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-30   21:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Roscoe (#40)

If later science shows earlier science to be incorrect, the earlier science remains no less an accomplishment, cf. Isaac Newton.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30   21:16:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: ConservingFreedom (#43)

If later science shows earlier science to be incorrect, the earlier science remains no less an accomplishment

So if we say Science says X will cure you. And X doesn't cure you. Then it was useful to to to X even though it had no affect?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-30   21:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#54. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Science says X will cure you.

Science never says anything WILL cure YOU - it may say something HAS cured A PERCENTAGE of those with a certain condition, which remains true even if YOU don't turn out to be part of that percentage.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-30 22:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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