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Title: Cops Murder Woman’s Three Dogs, Shooting One Through a Locked Door — To Look for Pot
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Free Thought Project/Dailyu News
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/i- ... -cannabis/#T7WwMaO2T5HyyBFJ.99
Published: May 28, 2016
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2016-05-28 18:26:54 by Deckard
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Detroit, MI — Three of Detroit’s finest, Officer Gaines, Officer Paul, and Officer Morrison, are named in a recent lawsuit after they entered a woman’s home, hunted down her dogs, and murdered them all. The officers were serving a search warrant in search of one of the most beneficial plants on the planet which is currently outlawed in the state of Michigan. After cops murdered all the dogs, they came to the owner of the home, Nikita Smith, and said, “I should have killed you too,” according to the lawsuit. According to Smith, when the cops came to the door to tell her they had a warrant to look for marijuana, she asked them if she could secure the dogs. Smith put two dogs in the basement and locked one in the bathroom. But the fact that the dogs were secured, did not matter to these cruel officers. “They went around and killed them. Like a death squad,” Smith’s lawyer Chris Olson told the Daily News on Thursday. As the Daily News reports: After officers entered the home, one of the dogs was able to get out of the basement, and harmlessly sat next to Smith. As Smith reached for the dog, officers shot the animal “multiple times,” the lawsuit charges. Smith watched from less than 10 feet away as the dog, named Debo, died on the floor. Three officers then went to the basement and fatally shot a dog named Mama, who was pregnant. Mama was quiet and not attacking the cops at the time, according to the lawsuit. When the sadistic cops found the last dog in the bathroom, according to the suit, they discussed if they should kill it or not. It was locked in a bathroom. “Should we do that one too?” one cop asked. “Yes,” replied the other as Officer Gaines and Officer Paul opened fire, shooting through the door multiple times killing the dog on the other side, named Smoke. “Did you see that? I got that one good!” Officer Gaines said as he laughed, according to the lawsuit. According to Smith, after the officers killed all of her dogs, one of them walked up to her and said, “I should have killed you too.” Then, another officer told her, “you could have been killed.” Pictures from the scene show Smith’s home riddled with bullet holes. They also show the tragically brutal aftermath of Smoke flailing around the bathroom as officers shot through the door. Blood quite literally painted the walls. “I couldn’t believe my eyes,” Olson said. Cops incorrectly believed that Smith’s home was a drug house and during the raid, they found only marijuana. “They had a warrant to search the house,” Olson said. “That we don’t really quarrel with. But when you search the house, you can’t go in the house and kill all the dogs.” Smith was arrested on charges of possession of marijuana — a misdemeanor. For possessing a plant, police officers felt it was just to break into Smith’s home, kill her dogs, kidnap her, and throw her in a cage — and this is called ‘Justice’ in the land of the free. The charges against Smith, however, were later thrown out as the cops who broke into her home and murdered her dogs never bothered to show up to court. Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells, save the lives of countless epileptic children, treat PTSD, heal bones, treat brain trauma, and a slew of other uses science is only beginning to understand. And yet, the only thing dangerous about this seemingly miraculous plant is that police will kidnap, cage, or kill you or your pets for possessing it. 
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#68. To: Stoner (#67)
polish their Fixed it. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. LOL
Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
If not, how is there an exception? Dogs are not people. Police dogs are not people. One cannot murder a dog any more than one can murder a cow. But you can have a murder of crows.
It's not just Pit Bulls. Gatlin is on record here supporting ANY cop shooting ANY dog, even Chihuahuas and other small breeds, even when there is no threat posed by these dogs. Go back to being a cop groupie. Maybe some will let you polish their badge, LOL It's what he does best. It doesn't matter - the point is, the door was closed. The cops shot THROUGH the door. They were in no danger - they killed the dogs and laughed about it afterwards. Why? Because they are mentally disturbed individuals who have no business being cops. No doubt these sick freaks have issues going back to childhood when they most likely tortured animals for fun. Well, Mr " I want the facts ". I reread the posted article, and went to the source link, and not once did I see " Pit Bull " spelled out. Yet you injected the word into your post. Why is that ? Simple, to inject fear so others will sympathize with the cops, and try to justify their actions. Because the cops were wrong, and everyone here knows it. Looks like you are making up shit there sarge. Not very truthful! Not a sign of " an intelligent person with general cognitive problem- solving skills ". More like a BSer, making up lies ! Go back to being a cop groupie. Maybe some will let you polish their badge, LOL Can you recognize a Pit Bull when you see one? Yes … you say? Then go to paragraph in the article and click on the Daily News on Thursday link. You see ole Debo pictured there? Debo was one of three of Nikita Smith's dogs that were killed. Do you recognize Debo’s jaws as those of a pit bull, which can grab hold of their target and refuse to let to … sometimes even after they have expired. They are hard-wired for this behavior. Look at those teeth, those are pit bull teeth that when he once gets his teeth in, nothing can shake him off. Ralph Waldo Emerson " 'This is the bull-dog bite; you must cut off the head to loosen the teeth." Jack London described the bulldog grip in White Fang as the "clinging death." Matt Agorist who leads you to believe that pit bulls are "just dogs" is either lying to you, ignorant of the true nature of gripping dogs or concealing information in order to gain sympathy and support for his biased cause. I have shown you where Matt Agorist “lied by omission.” Now show me where my “lie” is, please.
I find out the facts on what happened and then I will start to speculate as to why? I am not going to take the word of a guy who was not, did not personally interview anyone, but simply read another article and wrote his article using quotes from that second article by a pothead who has pit bulls in her home to protect her stash.
It's not just Pit Bulls. Gatlin is on record here supporting ANY cop shooting ANY dog, even Chihuahuas and other small breeds, even when there is no threat posed by these dogs. What is true, is that I am on record to ferret out the facts and not be emotionally swayed so as to be led down the agenda path by any author who posts half truths and innuendos. If YOU want to CONTINUE down that path ... then have at it. Now, tell your asshole cop-hating buddy, Stoner ... that Debo (shown in the picture in the link) is definitely a pit bull.
The cops shot THROUGH the door. " And what if a child had been on the other side of the door, with the dog. I guess to the cop cult worshipers, " that would have been too bad. The child should not have been there. " " No doubt these sick freaks have issues going back to childhood when they most likely tortured animals for fun. " That, or they were little wimps and got bullied around. Now, with a gun & badge, they have " the power " and are anxious to use it. Sooner or later, karma is going to pay those clowns a horrific visit. Then the cult members will be all " boo hoo hoo, wah wah wah wah, poor hero's! " Like I have said before, if the cops have such an obsession for killing, let them go after the Bloods, the Crips, BLM, Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Or, they should go join the Army, and volunteer for the sand box. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I do not hate cops. I do not like cops that act improperly. I have personal fiends that are cops, local PD, SO, SP, Game Wardens, and Feds. Sarge, you are the asshole here, and everyone knows it. This site was much more enjoyable before you came back. FO Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I don’t know what the cop cult worshipers would say, but I personally say the mother should have been arrested for leaving a child LOCKED in a bathroom with a PIT BULL. Why do I say that? To answer that question, let your mind dwell on the following incident when you envision a child locked in the bathroom alone with a pit bull: Detroit --Lucillie Strickland says she has been “constantly” reliving in her mind the sight of her 4-year-old son being mauled by four pit bulls. “They pulled him from me and (dragged) him under the fence. They just ate him,” said Strickland, a 33-year-old wife and mother of seven, breaking down in tears. Strickland was walking with her 4-year-old son Xavier to nearby Thurgood Marshall school, when four pit bulls charged from the back of a home in the 15500 block of Baylis around 12:25 p.m. Wednesday. They attacked her child as she tried to fight them off. dogs attacked Strickland, too, biting her in the back and the legs as she tried to protect Xavier, a little boy small for his age. “I fell on top of him,” Strickland said Thursday, explaining how she tried to protect her little boy. “I had him under my arms.” When police arrived in the neighborhood near the Lodge Freeway and Linwood they fatally shot three of the dogs. The fourth was captured. Xavier was taken to Henry Ford Hospital where he died despite doctors’ efforts to save him.
I notice you didn't even try to deny the factoid I posted. Attaboy! How do you determine cops acted improperly simply by reading an article someone wrote after reading another about an incident?
I don’t know what the cop cult worshipers would say, but I personally say the mother should have been arrested for leaving a child LOCKED in a bathroom with a PIT BULL. And the cops in the scenario under discussion - what should happen to them? A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. I give no credence to gross exaggerations and implied charges.
Here's two more mainstream accounts of the same story. The problem is - you won't believe those either. Detroit police accused of needlessly killing dogs while searching house A couple of comments - Jennifer Martinez I would assume neither guilt nor innocence. There should be a thorough and impartial investigation conducted either internally or by the Sheriff's Department. The departmental protocol should be evaluated. If the protocol was wrong or inadequate with respect to directions, then it should be immediately corrected.. If the cops violated departmental protocol at the time of the incident, they should be disciplined. How severely? I would need further information to say. Termination would be a paramount consideration. If the cops violated the law, they should be charged and brought to trial. If found guilty, then termination would be automatic. If protocol was wrong or violated and/or if a law was broken … a public apology should be issued and full restitution for damages. plus punitive dames awarded. That would be my course of action based on what information I can objectively gleen at this time.. I don’t think I missed anything. What would you do?
If the cops have a warrant to search the house, why didn't she temporarily leash the dogs outside? Putting the dogs in areas where the cops are going to search is pointless.
Here's two more mainstream accounts of the same story. The problem is - you won't believe those either. So your answer to my question is that you would read TWO MORE mainstream accounts of the same story and base your JUDGMENT of the events solely on three mainstream accounts of the story … is this correct? I assume it is, because I can read your statement no other way. You say three stories in the mainstream media … eh? Okay, I will cover that and raise you with 10 compelling reasons you can never trust the mainstream media. (Let’s concede that I can in order to save time and space … I assure you that I can). Let’s look at “Fair and Balanced” Fox News to find that a recently released analysis by PunditFact revealed that out of every statement made by a Fox News host or guest, over half of them were completely false. What’s more, only 8% percent could even be considered “completely true.” So, now tell me again, that you are willing to believe three mainstream accounts of the same story … and I will tell you that I will question the validity in all three.
Putting the dogs in areas where the cops are going to search is pointless. Pointless? Maybe not, could have been a strategic deployment of the three pit bulls (assuming the other two were also pit bulls) by the pothead to protect her stash.
Seriously? First you rag on FTP and Matt Agorist, claiming they are biased. I give you two more sources, and you still remain adamant in your defense of these psychopaths? What would it take - a confession from the cops themselves? Looks to me like they've already done that. All charges were dropped against Nikita Smith, the cops never showed up in court. And once again I repeat - these cops were in NO DANGER from any of these dogs! Yet you continue to defend their actions. You sick son of a bitch. More ignorant assumptions from LF's leading purveyor of bullshit. The charges were dropped against Smith. Look - I know EXACTLY how your sick mind works. Potheads deserve to have their dogs killed by cops. You fucking drug warriors are insane and a scourge on America. I can't wait for the day when you or one of the other cop-worshipers ends up getting raided by SWAT. Oh - that's right, you're a law-abiding citizen. Tough shit. You think that will matter to the cops when they mistakenly raid your house because of sloppy or careless police work? Don't expect any sympathy from me when that happens. But your approval isn’t something I need or want and you don’t speak for everyone. I was contacted through an intermediary sent by Stone tp personally ask me to return to LF and resume posting. I gracefully accepted the invitation in the spirit it was offered and returned. I am happy to be back and I believe that Stone is satisfied that I have returned. So, you are definitely out of order when you suggest that I “Fuck Off” and leave LF. I will not do so and I plan to stay as long as Stone, our host, accepts me. I will go on now to discuss your attempt to stifle my freedom to comment on LF. It is the unassailable truth as I speak from the “high ground” of tolerance and say that I have a right to my opinions and I have been given permission to post those opinions. If you don’t like my opinions, then you can ignore them by not clicking on my comments or place me on the “Bozo” in the setup tab. Thank you in advance for your anticipated understanding.
It was no assumption, it was a presumption … the difference can be subtle, and difficult for your untrained mind to understand. No, potheads do not deserve to have their dogs killed by cops or anyone else. The main reason a cop makes the decision to shoot a dog is due to a perceived threat from that animal. When a cop shoots someone’s dog, it deeply affects the dog’s human family, as well as the officer, the neighborhood, and the community. People can protect their dogs by protecting the officers, that should be simple enough for even your stressed cop-hating mind to understand. The procedures to protect dogs are simple: Follow all leash laws, and keep dogs away from law enforcement during neighborhood searches, 911 calls and searches authorized by warrants.. I will not waste time to comment on the other gibberish in your contemptuous post showing disdain with an attempt to be scornful and disrespectful..
I never suggested that you "leave LF". But it certainly would not bother me if you did. As to "being out of order", I guess you think you were "in order" when you called me "asshole" ? TS! " If you don’t like my opinions, then you can ignore them by not clicking on my comments or place me on the “Bozo” in the setup tab. " I will do that, and suggest you do the same! arrivederci sarge. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You see ole Debo pictured there? Debo was one of three of Nikita Smith's dogs that were killed. After officers entered the home, one of the dogs was able to get out of the basement, and harmlessly sat next to Smith. [...] [Smith's lawyer Chris ] Olson said Smith had done everything correctly in her effort to secure the dogs, yet the officers still "went around and killed them." Smith's lawyer says Smith had done everything correctly to secure the dogs. And yet, after they were supposedly secured, one of the pit bulls magically appeared sitting next to Smith, harmlessly. Sitting unrestrained next to the owner is not restrained and is not harmless. And then there is the police report. https://www.scribd.com/doc/313964609/Nikita-Smith-vs-City-of-Detroit-Police Nikita Smith v City of Detroit et al, MIED 2-16-11882 (25 May 2016) COMPLAINT https://www.scribd.com/doc/313964688/Nikita-Smith-vs-City-of-Detroit-Exhibits-1-2 Nikita Smith v City of Detroit et al, MIED 2-16-11882 (25 May 2016) (EXHIBITS) 1 of 2 https://www.scribd.com/doc/313964730/Nikita-Smith-vs-City-of-Detroit-Exhibits-2-2 Nikita Smith v City of Detroit et al, MIED 2-16-11882 (25 May 2016) (EXHIBITS) 2 of 2 From Detroit Police Department Arrest Report of 14 January 2016:
I will not place you on bozo because I find your greater belief in the unproven and/or unprovable aspects of cop-hating articles coupled with your lesser degree of intellectual curiosity interesting. I an actually fascinated by your vivacity and it makes you a great comedic actor because you join in with Bucky and Deckard to attack cops with with their same endless energy. In fact, your posts are a mirror of Bucky’s posts. You have copied his style and mimicked his choice of descriptive adjectives.
From Detroit Police Department Arrest Report of 14 January 2016 tell a much different story that the Free Thought Project article by Matt Agorist : I guess it is a question now of whom do you wish to believe, Smith or all the members of the Detroit PD Narcotics Team. Thanks to nolu chan … you now have a choice.
Thank You ... Thank You.
Looks like you are making up shit there sarge. Not very truthful! Not a sign of " an intelligent person with general cognitive problem- solving skills ". More like a BSer, making up lies !
You're welcome. According to Matt Agorist: But the fact that the dogs were secured, did not matter to these cruel officers. A half-dozen cops show up with a warrant to search an alleged drug den. The lady of the house answers their knock at the door, tells them she has three dogs, and asks if it is ok if she secures the dogs. Presumably, they allow her to do this unaccompanied and return to tell them that it is safe and to invite them in for tea and crumpets. In the Complaint at 4: 18. Plaintiffs other dog, Smoke, was sequestered in the bathroom with the door closed. 19. Defendant police officers next entered the residence without permission. 20. Plaintiffs’ dog Debo got past the obstruction from the basement and sat next to Plaintiff Nikita Smith. If one assumes the cops accompanied and supervised her in securing the dogs, the cops permitted her to leave the dogs free running in the basement, with an undescribed obstruction that would not obstruct a pitbull. And the harmless pitbull proceeded to, apparently noiselessly, overcome the undescribed obstacle, and sit by its owner's side, interrupting the tea and crumpets. If one assumes the cops accompanied and supervised her in securing the dogs, the cops watched approvingly as she, without explanation, put two dogs in the basement and one in the bathroom. Or, there was evidence of gunshots left behind and she had to come up with some explanation for how the supposedly secured dogs were shot — one in the living room, one in the bathroom and one in the basement. If the cops did not supervise her securing the dogs, that is the damnedest police work ever on a drug search. Can I secure the dogs? Of course, ma'am, take your time, destroy all the evidence you can, and let us know when it is safe to enter. Thank you for your cooperation. And darn, they had a warrant and entered without permission after the dogs were "sequestered."
It's entirely possible that Nikita Smith lied. It is also entirely possible that ALL members of the Detroit PD Narcotics Squad lied. I am not prepared to say who lied ... but obviously, someone did. You read the article and now you have read the police report. Do you stand by your statement "the cops were wrong, and everyone here knows it?"
And darn, they had a warrant and entered without permission after the dogs were "sequestered." I had the same reaction. My intuition told me all along that article stinks to high Heaven and smacked of a pseudo-journalist on a mission to prove an agenda. Matt wrote an article based on the information he read in anther article. I'm sure that you have noticed this is common practice. One reporter will publish something and a multitude of other reporters will parrot it like they are the original source. That was why I had to laugh when Deckard posted two additional sources and told me they said the same thing as the article posted here.
Nor I. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Thank you. All I tried to do on the thread was question the veracity of the article. Nowhere did I ever say, or even suggest, the cops were right. Yet, I was repeatedly accused of defending the cops. I believe that cops who violate protocol need to be held accountable and disciplinary or corrective action taken. While cops who break the law must be tried and convicted in a court of law. Trying and convicting cops on hearsay evidence, second hand information and the biased opinions that are presented in these cop-hating articles has now become an Internet sport to some.
And once again I repeat - these cops were in NO DANGER from any of these dogs! They are definitely biased. They did they not publish the police report to present the cops side of the incident. That would definitely be the unbiased thing to do ... intelligent minds would agree. Either Nikita Smith is lying of the entire narc team is lying. Publish both sides and let the readers have access to all information available.
Proven to be a lie by both Smith's lawyer and the cops. If one point is proven to be a lie ... then you should question the validity of all other points.
I guess it is a question now of whom do you wish to believe, Smith or all the members of the Detroit PD Narcotics Let's see. There's a free-running pitbull in the house, but when they knocked on the door they got no response. Was the vicious pitbull not interested in the strangers at the front door? But then they forced entry, and THEN the pitbull finally noticed them and charged. How much sense does that make? Okay then "simultaneously" a dog then decided to charge from the bathroom. Why did this dog also wait to charge, not responding when the police announced their presense, choosing instead to sit in the bathroom until well after the first shots were fired. And then lets look at the photo, and tell me this amount of blood in the bath room was from shooting the dog after it had "charged from the bathoom". The photo also shows damage in the bathroom door, but certainly that was not from a shotgun at long range. We can also note that the police report give so mention of threat from the dog in the basement, only that they found it and killed it. No reason is given why. So, who do I believe? Based on all the info, the police report doesn't add up as well. The bathroom photo is the most compelling evidence. It should be very easy to prove whether the bathroom door was opened or closed at the time the police shot that dog. That would show who's lying, whether it be all the police at the scene, or Smith. If all the police have is each other swearing it happened like they said, I'd say that's not worth crap. Maybe Smith really *is* lying. Or maybe instead, the police are lying.
Pinguinite: Or maybe, both Smith and the police are lying. Then maybe Matt Agorist is presenting half truths. Or maybe instead, all three parties are lying, stating lies by others or presenting half truths. Matt Agorist wrote: From the lawsuit: 17.A Next, Plaintiff Nikita Smith placed two of her dogs, Debo and Mama, in the basement and blocked the entryway to the basement. 18.A Plaintiffs other dog, Smoke, was sequestered in the bathroom with the door closed. [The lawyer did not specify the door was locked]. Maybe Matt Agorist misreported. Or maybe instead, Smith’s lawyer is lying. Matt Agorist reported: From the police report: From the lawsuit: Maybe Matt Agorist is wrong. Maybe the narc team is lying, Or maybe instead, Smith’s lawyer is lying. Pinguinite: It is unclear where the gray pitt bull was located or what the pitt bull was doing a the time of the knock. Smith’s lawyer stated that Mama, the pitbull in the basement was not barking. It is unclear if Debo, the gray pitt bull was barking or standing silently waiting for the door to open. Pinguinite: How much sense does that make? It is unclear that the pitbull had not already noticed them and was standing silently inside the living room and charged the officers when they opened the door. How much sense does that make? Pinguinite: How can a dog “simultaneously” charge and at the same time “wait to charge?” If the black Rottweiler were simultaneously charging from the bathroom with the gray pitt bull charging from the living room, there was no waiting. This makes no sense … to me. I could continue. But in doing so, I would only be showing that we have moved into asking hypothetical questions and posing hypothetical answers and solutions. Speculation does nothing but speculate. So, it is as you said: Which is exactly what I said before you: It is as you say: All this leaves me with a question, since the PD report was available, why did Matt Agrost choose not to present the statements by the narc team and only present the statements made by Smith. Was his failure to state “the dogs” were two pit bulls and a Rottweiler an omission or a commission to cover up and tone down any possible severity of “the dogs? These are questions that will go unanswered, as will many others. What should be proven at this point, is that nothing has been proven. Everything still remains allegations, by all parties, and pure speculation by some posters because the facts of this incident are not known.
I missed this one. Pinguinite: The police report: Merriam-Webster Simple Definition of vicious:
Drug dealers, all Puckards hero's, commonly use pit bulls as meat shields from LE as defense of their crack houses. Aside from the drug charges, the criminal scumbag should be charged with felony animal abuse when LE is forced to dispatch these animals that are USED by scumbags.
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#69. To: ConservingFreedom (#68)
#70. To: BobCeleste (#28)
Does that include Police Dogs?
#71. To: Stoner (#67)
I reread the posted article, and went to the source link, and not once did I see " Pit Bull " spelled out. Yet you injected the word into your post. Why is that ? Simple, to inject fear so others will sympathize with the cops, and try to justify their actions. Because the cops were wrong, and everyone here knows it.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#72. To: Gatlin, Stoner (#66)
You missed my point with the Cujo parody, it was used to show that many things are possible and we really don’t know what went on behind a closed bathroom door.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#73. To: Stoner (#67)
Pit Bull ...
#74. To: Deckard (#72)
Why?
#75. To: Deckard, Stoner (#71)
#76. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#72)
" It doesn't matter - the point is, the door was closed.
#77. To: Gatlin (#75)
" your asshole cop-hating buddy, Stoner "
#78. To: Stoner, Deckard (#76)
"It doesn't matter - the point is, the door was closed.
The cops shot THROUGH the door."
And what if a child had been on the other side of the door, with the dog. I guess to the cop cult worshipers, " that would have been too bad. The child should not have been there. " ‘They just ate him,’ mom says about [pit bull] attack on son.
Think about it ...
#79. To: Gatlin (#75)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#80. To: Stoner (#77)
I do not like cops that act improperly.
#81. To: Gatlin, Stoner, Deckard (#78)
'And what if a child had been on the other side of the door, with the dog. I guess to the cop cult worshipers, " that would have been too bad. The child should not have been there. "'
#82. To: Deckard (#79)
#83. To: Gatlin, Stoner, ConservingFreedom (#80)
How do you determine cops acted improperly simply by reading an article someone wrote after reading another about an incident?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#84. To: ConservingFreedom (#81)
And the cops in the scenario under discussion - what should happen to them?
#85. To: Deckard (#0)
#86. To: Deckard, Stoner, ConservingFreedom (#83)
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How do you determine cops acted improperly simply by reading an article someone wrote after reading another about an incident?
#87. To: misterwhite (#85)
If the cops have a warrant to search the house, why didn't she temporarily leash the dogs outside?
#88. To: Gatlin (#86)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#89. To: Gatlin (#87)
(Edited)
Maybe not, could have been a strategic deployment of the three pit bulls (assuming the other two were also pit bulls) by the pothead to protect her stash.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#90. To: Stoner, A K A Stone (#77)
Sarge, you are the asshole here, and everyone knows it.
You can have your opinion about me. This site was much more enjoyable before you came back. FO
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but I will not “Fuck Off.”
#91. To: Deckard (#89)
#92. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#90)
" you are definitely out of order when you suggest that I “Fuck Off” and leave LF."
#93. To: Gatlin, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#73)
Then go to paragraph in the article and click on the Daily News on Thursday link.
When the officers showed up at the Detroit home where Smith and Kevin Thomas live in January to execute a search warrant, they were told by Smith there were three dogs present. Smith then put two of the dogs in the basement, and locked the third one in the bathroom, according to the lawsuit. Thomas was not home at the time.
C- MEMEBERS OF MVS CODE 2979 MADE ABOVE LOCATION TO EXCEUTE NARCOTIC SEARCH WARRANT. ENTRY TEAM ANNOUNCED PRESENCE AND PURPOSE AND WITH NO RESPONSE FROM INSIDE FORCED ENTRY WAS MADE INTO THE LOCATION. P.O. MORRISON ENCOUNTERED A VICIOUS GRAY PITBULL AT THE FRONT DOOR AT WHICH TIME HE FIRED HIS DEPT ISSUED SHOTGUN STRIKING THE DOG. ENTRY TEAM ENTERED THE LOCATION AT WHICH TIME THE SAME PITBULL CHARGED AT P.O. [REDACTED], P.O. [REDACTED] FIRED 7 SHOTS FROM HIS DEPARTMENT ISSUED HANDGUN AT THE PITBULL, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. SIMULTANIOUSLY A VICIOUS BLACK DOG CHARGED AT P.O. [REDACTED] FROM THE BATHROOM. P.O. [REDACTED] FIRED THREE SHOTS FROM HIS DEPARTMENT ISSUED SHOTGUN, P.O. PAUL AND P.O. GAINES FIRED ONE SOT FROM TEIR DEPARTMENT ISSUED HANGGUNS, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. P.O. [REDACTED] ENCOUNTERED A VICIOUS WHITE PITBULL IN THE BASEMENT AND FIRED HIS DEPARTMENT APROVED SHOTGUN 5 TIMES, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. AFTER THE HOUSE WAS DECLARED SAFE, CREW DETAINED NIKITA SMITH IN THE DINING ROOM. P.O. [REDACTED] RECOVERED BELOW LISTED MARIJUANA FROM THE KITCHEN STOVE TOP AND PLACED IN EVIDENCE. SGT [REDACTED] RECOVERED THE BELOW LISTED MARIJUANA FROM NE BEDROOM CLOSET, SGT [REDACTED] FORFEITED BELOW LISTED VEHICLE TO 2121 FORT STREET, TOWED BY V&F CONTROL #NW23053. MRS SMITH WAS ARRESTED AND CONVEYED TO DDC WITHOUT INCIDENT.
#94. To: Stoner (#92)
#95. To: Stoner, Deckard, Buckeroo, Justified, Pinguinite, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, BobCeleste, misterwhite, nolu chan (#93)
C- MEMEBERS OF MVS CODE 2979 MADE ABOVE LOCATION TO EXCEUTE NARCOTIC SEARCH WARRANT. ENTRY TEAM ANNOUNCED PRESENCE AND PURPOSE AND WITH NO RESPONSE FROM INSIDE FORCED ENTRY WAS MADE INTO THE LOCATION. P.O. MORRISON ENCOUNTERED A VICIOUS GRAY PITBULL AT THE FRONT DOOR AT WHICH TIME HE FIRED HIS DEPT ISSUED SHOTGUN STRIKING THE DOG. ENTRY TEAM ENTERED THE LOCATION AT WHICH TIME THE SAME PITBULL CHARGED AT P.O. [REDACTED], P.O. [REDACTED] FIRED 7 SHOTS FROM HIS DEPARTMENT ISSUED HANDGUN AT THE PITBULL, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. SIMULTANIOUSLY A VICIOUS BLACK DOG CHARGED AT P.O. [REDACTED] FROM THE BATHROOM. P.O. [REDACTED] FIRED THREE SHOTS FROM HIS DEPARTMENT ISSUED SHOTGUN, P.O. PAUL AND P.O. GAINES FIRED ONE SOT FROM TEIR DEPARTMENT ISSUED HANGGUNS, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. P.O. [REDACTED] ENCOUNTERED A VICIOUS WHITE PITBULL IN THE BASEMENT AND FIRED HIS DEPARTMENT APROVED SHOTGUN 5 TIMES, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. AFTER THE HOUSE WAS DECLARED SAFE, CREW DETAINED NIKITA SMITH IN THE DINING ROOM. P.O. [REDACTED] RECOVERED BELOW LISTED MARIJUANA FROM THE KITCHEN STOVE TOP AND PLACED IN EVIDENCE. SGT [REDACTED] RECOVERED THE BELOW LISTED MARIJUANA FROM NE BEDROOM CLOSET, SGT [REDACTED] FORFEITED BELOW LISTED VEHICLE TO 2121 FORT STREET, TOWED BY V&F CONTROL #NW23053. MRS SMITH WAS ARRESTED AND CONVEYED TO DDC WITHOUT INCIDENT.
#96. To: nolu chan (#93)
#97. To: Stoner (#67)
Well, Mr " I want the facts ". I reread the posted article, and went to the source link, and not once did I see " Pit Bull " spelled out. Yet you injected the word into your post. Why is that ? Simple, to inject fear so others will sympathize with the cops, and try to justify their actions. Because the cops were wrong, and everyone here knows it.
Two Pit Bulls and a Rottweiler - Source
#98. To: Gatlin (#96)
Thank you. Thank you.
According to Smith, when the cops came to the door to tell her they had a warrant to look for marijuana, she asked them if she could secure the dogs. Smith put two dogs in the basement and locked one in the bathroom.
17. Next, Plaintiff Nikita Smith placed two of her dogs, Debo and Mama, in the basement and blocked the entryway to the basement.
#99. To: Stoner (#95)
Stoner: Because the cops were wrong, and everyone here knows it.
#100. To: nolu chan (#98)
If the cops did not supervise her securing the dogs, that is the damnedest police work ever on a drug search. Can I secure the dogs? Of course, ma'am, take your time, destroy all the evidence you can, and let us know when it is safe to enter. Thank you for your cooperation.
#101. To: Gatlin (#84)
I don’t think I missed anything.
#102. To: ConservingFreedom (#101)
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#103. To: Deckard (#88)
First you rag on FTP and Matt Agorist, claiming they are biased.
#104. To: Deckard (#83)
They killed one through a locked door?
#105. To: Gatlin (#95)
#106. To: Pinguinite, nolu chan (#105)
(Edited)
Maybe Smith really *is* lying. Or maybe instead, the police are lying.
Smith put two dogs in the basement and locked one in the bathroom.
14 When Detroit Police officers knocked on the door, Plaintiff Nikita Smith said to the police officers, “let me put my dogs down in the basement.”
The officers were serving a search warrant …
The officers were there to execute a narcotic search warrant.
19.A Defendant police officers next entered the residence without permission.
Let's see. There's a free-running pitbull in the house, but when they knocked on the door they got no response. Was the vicious pitbull not interested in the strangers at the front door? But then they forced entry, and THEN the pitbull finally noticed them and charged.
But then they forced entry, and THEN the pitbull finally noticed them and charged.
Okay then "simultaneously" a dog then decided to charge from the bathroom. Why did this dog also wait to charge, not responding when the police announced their presense, choosing instead to sit in the bathroom until well after the first shots were fired.
Maybe Smith really *is* lying. Or maybe instead, the police are lying.
I guess it is a question now of whom do you wish to believe, Smith or all the members of the Detroit PD Narcotics Team.
It should be very easy to prove whether the bathroom door was opened or closed at the time the police shot that dog. That would show who's lying, whether it be all the police at the scene, or Smith.
#107. To: Pinguinite, nolu chan (#105)
We can also note that the police report give so mention of threat from the dog in the basement, only that they found it and killed it. No reason is given why.
P.O. [REDACTED] ENCOUNTERED A "VICIOUS" WHITE PITBULL IN THE BASEMENT AND FIRED HIS DEPARTMENT APROVED SHOTGUN 5 TIMES, ALL SHOTS TOOK EFFECT AND DESTROYED THE ANIMAL. [Underline and quotation marks added for emphasis].
- very violent and cruel
- very dangerous
- having or showing very angry or cruel feelings
#108. To: nolu chan (#93)
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