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Title: Can you say why America is the greatest country in the world?
Source: IMDB; "The Newsroom"
URL Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2289479/quotes
Published: Jun 24, 2012
Author: Aaron Sorkin (created by), Aaron Sorkin
Post Date: 2016-05-17 13:00:23 by TheFireBert
Keywords: america, greatest, WORST-period-GENERATION-period
Views: 2076
Comments: 12

***Emphasis and additional commentary are mine***

Jennifer Johnson: Can you say why America is the greatest country in the world?

Sharon: Diversity and opportunity.

Moderator: Lewis?

Lewis: Freedom and freedom... so let's keep it that way.

Moderator: Will?... Why is America the grea.....

Will McAvoy: It's not the greatest country in the world, professor, that's my answer.

Moderator: You're saying...

Will McAvoy: Yes.

Moderator: Let's talk about...

Will McAvoy: Fine. Sharon, the NEA is a loser. Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paychecks, but he [gestures to Lewis] gets to hit you with it anytime he wants. It doesn't cost money, it costs votes. It costs airtime and column inches. You know why people don't like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so fuckin' smart, how come they lose so GODDAM ALWAYS!

Sharon: Hey...!

Will McAvoy: [turns to Lewis] And with a straight face, you're going to tell students that America is so starspangled awesome that we're the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom, Japan has freedom, the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, BELGIUM has freedom! Two hundred and seven sovereign states in the world, like 180 of them have freedom.

Moderator: All right...

Will McAvoy: And yeah, you... sorority girl. Just in case you accidentally wander into a voting booth one day, there are some things you should know, and one of them is: There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, twenty-seventh in math, twenty-second in science, forty-ninth in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labor force, and number four in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next twenty-six countries combined, twenty-five of whom are allies.

None of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you, nonetheless, are without a doubt a member of the WORST-period-GENERATION-period-EVER-period, so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about! Yosemite?

[Will goes on to explain why the USA was great at one time, and still could be]

Will McAvoy: [pause] We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons, we passed laws, struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were, and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and we cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy.

We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it; it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election, and we didn't scare so easy.

We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered. The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one.

America is not the greatest country in the world anymore.

Will McAvoy: [to moderator] Enough?

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#2. To: TheFireBert (#0)

We waged wars on poverty

No, we subsidized it, and as everyone with half a brain predicted we got more of it. That sure as Hell wasn't "greatness".

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-17   13:34:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ConservingFreedom (#2)

we subsidized it

I agree. While most of what he says is true, there will always be different opinions and versions of this truth.

The War on Poverty, just like the War on Drugs, is a failed policy because the actions attack the symptoms, not the root causes.

Poverty is the product of laziness, greed, and a lack of compassionate generosity of the individual, along with government regulation of poverty in general.

Drugs usage is the product of many things, including poverty and despair, along with healthy forms of usage and criminalization of said usage. The more a government criminalizes recreational behaviors, the more certain individuals will continue the behavior. The only net result is always going to be more criminals. Once again, greed,a lack of compassionate generosity of the individual and if society, along with government regulation of drugs in general, cause the uptick in drug usage, not eliminating it.

TheFireBert  posted on  2016-05-17   14:14:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TheFireBert (#4)

Drug usage isn't the result of criminalization of usage. It is a result of immorality and stupidity.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-17   21:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

It is a result of immorality and stupidity.

I cannot argue with that reasoning. No one can, because those are also very compelling reasons for increased usage. The only thing I added is that criminalization has sped up the rates, along with the failed War on Poverty and the failed experiment they are running to level the playing field of the world economy.

But you cannot deny that the War on Drugs has played a hand in the cumulative effect of increased usage. It is a known fact that the more you prohibit an action that will be taken anyways, the more the action will be taken in the shadows. Human nature at its finest, no?

What we fail to realize is that with the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, the War on _fill in the blank_, all can be traced back to not only good intentions, but also a very real financial interest. Someone has to pay for these wars!

America was once great because it cared for We the People and their security, not because it stuck its nose in everyone's personal business.

If we really want to be great again, go ask Uncle Sam to get back on our side of the border, get out of our wallets, get out of our papers and property, get out of our bodies, and get out of our way.

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