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Title: Governor who called legalization 'reckless' now says Colorado's pot industry is working
Source: L.A. Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na ... 60516-20160516-snap-story.html
Published: May 17, 2016
Author: David Kelly
Post Date: 2016-05-17 12:55:09 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 12165
Comments: 97

When Colorado voted to legalize recreational marijuana four years ago, one of the move's chief critics was Gov. John Hickenlooper.

The moderate Democrat said that if he could "wave a magic wand" to reverse the decision, he would. Then he called voters "reckless" for approving it in the first place, a remark he later downgraded to "risky."

“Colorado is known for many great things,” Hickenlooper said. “Marijuana should not be one of them.”

But the governor’s views have softened. During a recent panel discussion at the Milken Institute Global Conference in Los Angeles, he said that despite opposing the legalization of pot, his job was to “deliver on the will of the people of Colorado.”

“If I had that magic wand now, I don’t know if I would wave it,” he said. “It’s beginning to look like it might work.”

It was the latest in a series of comments Hickenlooper has made signaling what looks like an evolution of his views on marijuana. In April last year, during an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo, Hickenlooper said legal weed was “not as vexing as we thought it was going to be.”

And during an appearance on "60 Minutes," he predicted that Colorado might “actually create a system that could work” in successfully regulating marijuana.

Why the change?

“The predictions of fire and brimstone have failed to materialize,” said Mason Tvert, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a national group working to reform pot laws. “Most Coloradoans, including the governor, recognize that the law is working.”

From the start, Hickenlooper saw the legalization of marijuana as a great national experiment, something utterly new in this country and fraught with potential public health and safety issues.

He fretted about a potential rise in drug use among children and was clearly uncomfortable with an amendment directly conflicting with federal law, which considers pot an illegal drug on par with cocaine.

There were plenty of snags at first. Marijuana edibles proved especially problematic because few people had experience with them. High-profile overdoses made national news. Just last week a lawsuit was filed against the maker of a marijuana-laced candy, alleging the product triggered a "psychotic episode" that caused a man to kill his wife in 2014.

The predictions of fire and brimstone have failed to materialize. Most Coloradoans, including the governor, recognize that the law is working. — Mason Tvert, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project

Still, none of Hickenlooper’s worst fears were realized.

Colorado is booming. The state has a 4.2% unemployment rate, one of the best in the country. High-tech companies are moving in. Small towns across the state, some once teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, have been saved by tax revenues from pot dispensaries. And the $1-billion-a-year cannabis business will pump $100 million in taxes into state coffers this year.

Andrew Freedman, director of marijuana coordination for Colorado, said the governor’s views reflect a growing sense of optimism about how the industry is regulated.

“In the short run, there have been a lot fewer public safety and health issues than the governor feared in the beginning,” said Freedman, who is often referred to as the state’s marijuana czar. “In the beginning, we had problems with edibles and hash oil fires but now, for the most part, Colorado looks a lot like it did before legalization.”

Marijuana consumption has not changed much from pre-legalization levels and there has been no significant increase in public health and safety problems, he said.

As for the $100 million in tax revenue, Freedman noted, that's out of a $27-billion state budget.

Some 70% of the money is earmarked for school construction, public health initiatives and other projects. The rest goes back into regulating the industry.

“The governor has called this a grand experiment from the beginning. He looks at data points as he goes along and I think he’s pleasantly surprised that there were not as many challenges as he thought,” Freedman said.

“He would say the jury is still out on this experiment but he’s optimistic.”

Some are less circumspect.

“The state’s image is actually rising. We were just ranked as the best place to live in America,” Tvert said. “The idea that businesses would not relocate here or conferences wouldn’t be held here was untrue. In fact, attendees at conferences are now offered pot tours as day trips.”

Kelly is a special correspondent based in Denver.

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

none of Hickenlooper’s worst fears were realized.

To the bitter disappointment of moralistic statists.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-17   13:36:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ConservingFreedom (#2)

"none of Hickenlooper’s worst fears were realized."

Had he feared being sued by Nebraska and Oklahoma because Colorado's "legal" marijuana was crossing over into their "illegal" states, that fear would have been realized.

But he doesn't give a FF.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-17   19:01:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

Had he feared being sued by Nebraska and Oklahoma because Colorado's "legal" marijuana was crossing over into their "illegal" states, that fear would have been realized.

But he doesn't give a FF.

Why should he? The suit is going nowhere: www.denverpost.com/news/c...otus- denies-oklahoma-and-nebraskas-proposed-lawsuit-against

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-17   19:55:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ConservingFreedom (#5) (Edited)

"The suit is going nowhere"

Should it go nowhere? Don't the citizens of Nebraska and Oklahoma have a valid point? Don't they have a right to protect their children from drugs crossing from an adjacent state?

If noxious smoke was drifting from Colorado to other states, must that be allowed also? What about factories dumping pollutants into rivers that flow to other states?

We can stop that behavior but not drugs?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-18   10:03:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: misterwhite (#32)

Should it go nowhere?

Yes: "A decision in the Plaintiff States’ favor will hinder Colorado’s ability to channel demand for recreational marijuana into a regulated and monitored market. This is more likely to aggravate, rather than subdue, the cross-border trafficking on which the Plaintiff States’ allegations of injury rest. The Plaintiff States seek to invalidate only those laws that enable Colorado to regulate the supply side of its recreational marijuana market. Compl. at 28–29 (seeking invalidation of only COLO. CONST. art. XVIII, §§ 16(4) and (5) and related statutes and regulations, which authorize marijuana-related facilities and empower the State to strictly regulate them). They do not challenge Colorado’s authority to legalize marijuana generally, nor do they seek an order compelling Colorado law enforcement officials to take any particular actions against marijuana traffickers. They in fact disclaim any intent to do so: “Plaintiff States are not suggesting the CSA requires Colorado to criminalize marijuana or to strip Colorado authorities of prosecutorial discretion.” Br. in Supp. at 15." - coag.gov/sites/default/fi...usbriefoppositionneok.pdf

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-18   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ConservingFreedom (#41)

"A decision in the Plaintiff States’ favor will hinder Colorado’s ability to channel demand for recreational marijuana into a regulated and monitored market."

That's the problem. Colorado is NOT channeling demand for recreational marijuana into a regulated and monitored market.

If Colorado is unable, or unwilling, to regulate it's own industries to the point where it's negatively impacting other states, then that right to regulate should be removed.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-18   13:21:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: misterwhite (#44)

If Colorado is unable, or unwilling, to regulate it's own industries to the point where it's negatively impacting other states, then that right to regulate should be removed.

So unregulated legal pot will less negatively impact other states?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-18   14:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: ConservingFreedom (#49)

"So unregulated legal pot will less negatively impact other states?"

I never said it should be unregulated. I said Colorado shouldn't regulate it because they've shown they're incapable.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-18   17:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: misterwhite (#57)

I never said it should be unregulated.

That's where the suit would leave it - as I already quoted: 'They do not challenge Colorado’s authority to legalize marijuana generally, nor do they seek an order compelling Colorado law enforcement officials to take any particular actions against marijuana traffickers. They in fact disclaim any intent to do so: “Plaintiff States are not suggesting the CSA requires Colorado to criminalize marijuana or to strip Colorado authorities of prosecutorial discretion.”'

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-18   17:20:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

“Plaintiff States are not suggesting the CSA requires Colorado to criminalize marijuana or to strip Colorado authorities of prosecutorial discretion.”

Keep going, dullard.

Plaintiff States are not suggesting the CSA requires Colorado to criminalize marijuana or to strip Colorado authorities of prosecutorial discretion. Just that Colorado's affirmative authorization of the manufacture, possession, and distribution of marijuana presents a substantial obstacle to Congress's objectives under the CSA to establish a national, comprehensive, uniform and closed statutory scheme to control the market in controlled substances in order to prevent the abuse and diversion of those substances.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-18   17:26:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Roscoe (#61)

Keep going

That's where the source I quoted stopped, halfwit.

Colorado's affirmative authorization

That is, their regulation of legal pot, whose end would leave unregulated (by Colorado) pot. Do try to keep up.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-18   17:31:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: ConservingFreedom (#62)

"That is, their regulation of legal pot, whose end would leave unregulated (by Colorado) pot."

Colorado's regulation of pot legalized the manufacture, possession, and distribution of it. Ending Colorado's regulation of pot ends that legalization and places marijuana under federal control.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-18   17:45:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: misterwhite, ConservingFreedom (#64)

Colorado's regulation of pot legalized the manufacture, possession, and distribution of it. Ending Colorado's regulation of pot ends that legalization and places marijuana under federal control

Actually, Colorado decriminalized pot at the state level. It remains as illegal as ever.

Hypothetically, a President Trump could decide to enforce the Federal law and to withdraw any and all form of Federal benefits to renegade states, or perhaps the Federal government could charge, try, and convict the Governor for aiding, abetting, facilitating, or promoting the citizenry of Colorado in the violation of Federal laws.

That there is no State criminal statute against pot does not change the fact that there is a Federal statute that President Obama is failing to enforce. A different president may choose to fully enforce the Federal law. Or not.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-18   18:03:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: nolu chan (#67)

"Actually, Colorado decriminalized pot at the state level. It remains as illegal as ever."

Nope. Colorado actually legalized it for those 21 and older. No penalties. You can grow it, buy it, smoke it, carry it around and give it to friends.

It is still, however, illegal at the federal level but Obama has said the DOJ will not enforce federal law in states that legalized marijuana for recreational or medical use.

Yes, Trump can change that policy. I hope he does. And I agree with you that the Governor of Colorado should be arrested and charged with sedition, along with anyone in the state legislature who voted for legalization.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-18   18:37:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: misterwhite (#68)

Yes, Trump can change that policy. I hope he does.

Trump: "In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state" - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/29/trump-wants-marijuana-legalization-decided-at-the-state-level/

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-19   11:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: ConservingFreedom (#72) (Edited)

"Trump: "In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state"

I'd like to see that (and a whole lot of others issues) decided by each state, too. But it wouldn't work. Already the legal marijuana in Colorado is being found in the surrounding states where it remains illegal.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-19   11:56:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#77. To: misterwhite (#74) (Edited)

Already the legal marijuana in Colorado is being found in the surrounding states where it remains illegal.

And alcohol from elsewhere is found in dry counties; what's the proper policy conclusion?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-19 12:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: misterwhite (#74)

Already the legal marijuana in Colorado is being found in the surrounding states where it remains illegal.

If alcohol from elsewhere were found in Alaska's "local option communities" that ban the sale, importation, and possession of alcohol*, what would be the proper policy conclusion?

*https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/web/Portals/9/pub/ABC/DryDampCommunities/Localopt01-22-15.pdf

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-19 13:14:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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