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Title: Majority of Americans support universal healthcare
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The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... rt-federally-funded-healthcare
Published: May 16, 2016
Author: Rebecca Savransky
Post Date: 2016-05-16 12:13:13 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 11621
Comments: 60
A majority of Americans are in favor of a federally funded healthcare system that provides insurance to all Americans, according to a new Gallup poll. Some 58 percent of respondents support replacing ObamaCare with a universal healthcare system, while 37 percent oppose that plan. A majority — 51 percent — also supports simply repealing the Affordable Care Act, while 45 percent oppose the idea. Americans were divided over the idea of leaving ObamaCare as is: 49 percent oppose the idea, and 48 percent support it. The three scenarios were meant to correspond to the proposals of the three presidential candidates. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is in support of a single-payer, federally administered plan. Presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump has called for the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has said the law will stay in place. The poll was conducted from May 6 to 8 among 1,549 adults across the country. The margin of error is 3 percentage points.
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
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Hell, Willie, this comes as no surprise. Research shows that 45 percent of Americans pay no federal income tax. So that takes care of the largest portion. The next 12 percent are Bernie Sanders supporters. While the remaining one percent are Paultards. So, there is your 58 percent accounted for.
The majority of Americans are right to do so.
I don't think 58% of Americans know what universal healthcare is. However IMO they will change their mind if they have to pay for it. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
They think "the rich" will pay for it - along with all sorts of other free shit. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Middle class is evaporating, while the rich and especially superich make a killing. Certainly they can afford it.
We might as well give everything away for free and see how people like working for free! A new car for free no problem. Car manufacture can stop paying employee's. Medical for free no problem. Doctors and nurses don't mind working for free. Housing for free no problem. Construction guys can work for free. Food for free no problem. Farmers won't mind working for free. Fuel for free no problem. Oil workers and coal miners like working for free! As my pappy said there is no such thing as free!!! If government is the answer then you are asking the wrong question!
Got to love it. Crony capitalism works well under socialist control!
Have any data that supports your certainty? A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Never pay attention to a poll conducted by anyone.
Psalm 37
Good point. I did so here simply to use it as a platform.
Gee, I wonder why? "First, American educational attainment has dropped precipitously in comparison to other developed countries. While Americans over 55 are highly educated and literate compared to their Canadian and European counterparts, the same cannot be said for those in the 16- to 24-year-old age bracket, who rank near the bottom for all rich countries in educational attainment." The more socialist the U.S. becomes the lower the education attainment. But that is to be expected as the Bread and Circuses mentality grows. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Have any data that supports your certainty? Data are all around, look at the shift in distribution of wealth over the last decades and health care in other developed countries. Then raw data are not enough, you need to analyze and interpret them correctly. On the other hand market based health care system has some advantages. For example it can help spread of a new plague, when poor losers working in services will not be able to get to a doctor or even stay home when sick. Germs will prosper, less successful humans (aka Job Snatchers) will be culled and the magnificent Job Creators saved in isolated mansions will learn how to till the soil.
You are right, but it an entirely wrong concept to say that that which is paid by the taxpayer is free. It has been paid for by someone, and those providing the service have been paid, perhaps not as much as they could extract if they were free to charge whatever they want to for the service, but payment has been made. Let me ask you, would you refuse service if it was paid for by a benefactor, by an employer, why then would you refuse service paid for by a government on your behalf? Is it becuase you think that you will pay more in taxes than the value you extract, 18 Trillion dollars in debt gives the lie to this argument
The main culprit is GI Bill which gave unwashed massed education they were not fit to understand.
The main culprit is GI Bill which gave unwashed massed education they were not fit to understand. WTF? Are you really that ignorant? Do you understand the concept of age groups? Especially the difference between age 55+ and 16-24? GI Bill come into play here for the 16-24 group? FYI very few of the great unwashed masses have been eligible for college benefits under the GI Bill for over 30 years now. And for those in the 16-24 age group that did use you brain for once and realize that if a kid graduated from HS at 18 and then enlisted and just serves for 4 years he would be over 22 years old. These kids would represent a very small proportion of those in the under performing 16-24 year old range. Thirty years ago someone of age 55 today would have been 24 years old. Had that person enlisted for just one four year term and used the GI Bill he would have had 2 years of college. So just about everyone in the 55+ age group that may have used the GI Bill are for the most part "highly educated and literate compared to their Canadian and European counterparts". Now if you said it was the leftist social progressive policies over the past 30+ years of dumbing down the U.S. K-12 education system, forcing colleges to accept students that would not have been qualified 30 years ago and de facto lowering the quality of students applying to AND graduating from college, then you have a point. But he GI Bill has nothing to do with that as very few in the 16-24 age group would be eligible for GI benefits. Boris, you prove once again that you are mindless moron leftist shill that is incapable of an original thought or critical thinking. Really sad. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
"The main culprit is GI Bill which gave unwashed massed education they were not fit to understand." WTF? Are you really that ignorant? Do you understand the concept of age groups? Especially the difference between age 55+ and 16-24? GI Bill come into play here for the 16-24 group? You missed my point. Did GI Bill "lower the education attainment?
That's what libtarded MSM first said and still says about THE WALL.... and Trumps popularity OVER ANY OTHER (D) or (R) says otherwise. Slap yourself, you little urban zoo animal... soon you will be saying PRESIDENT TRUMP. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Your libtarded socialist OWS fear mongering doesn't work anymore. The 1% theory is bullshit. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
If you say so, it must be true ;)
Just use your own libtarded mind instead of sucking down all that libtarded Kool-Aid that's made you the socialist you are today. Select 100 RANDOM Apole friends you had 5 years ago ... tell me how many of them went from middle class to living on welfare... and if your fear mongering by pro socialist dip shits is true, for every 100 middle class people you know, you must know 1 millionaire that has more money than all 99 of your other friends. Total fear mongering HORSESHIT... designed to scare the populace into income distribution via "EQUALITY". Typical libtarded idiology. Make your own money... you have no right to mine just because you're upset over the people that worked hard enough to make a million as opposed to the lazy pot smoking fuck face that played Xbox all day while you and Deckard defended the scumbag for his drug use and laziness. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Trump supports it too. Donald Trump stands by universal health care despite attacks Donald Trump is remaining firm on a sticking point for many Republican voters — government-funded health care for all. One of his top rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, has hit Trump hard on this issue in recent weeks. Cruz’s campaign has dubbed Trump’s plan “Trumpcare” and likened it to “Hillarycare” and “Obamacare.” Last week, a super PAC supporting Cruz ran an attack ad on the subject in Iowa. But Trump isn’t backing down. article continues after advertisement “We do need health care for all people,” Trump said at a rally here this week. “What are we gonna do, let people die in the street?” Trump has said he doesn’t support Obamacare but does believe the government should pay for health insurance for all. “I wanna get rid of Obamacare. I want to get you something good,” he said at the rally. He didn’t offer specifics. Paultards. Contrast Trump's position with Dr. Ron Paul's : The current system is most definitely broken, and it must eventually be abolished if we want to regain both our health and our freedom. But Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don’t want to or need to participate. Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system? There is only one solution that will lead to true health and true freedom: making health care more affordable. Ron Paul believes that only true free market competition will put pressure on the providers and force them to lower their costs to remain in business. Additionally, Ron Paul wants to change the tax code to allow individual Americans to fully deduct all health care costs from their taxes. More lies... and yella Paultard propaganda. You should be banned for selling snake oil when snake oil is no longer for sale. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I did not know anyone on welfare and I knew a few millionaires. So what?
You must really have your knickers in a wad. Yes - Trump has said that he supports universal health care. That's a fact. Ron Paul is opposed to it. Which is also true. Now - explain to me how Trump is more conservative than Paul. You should be banned for selling snake oil when snake oil is no longer for sale. You and the other assclown I pinged opened the door to posting Ron Paul's stance when you opened your gaping maw and shrieked "Paultard". Interesting way of judging a person's worth, by how much money they make, not their character. If you ask me, that's pretty doggone shallow. Wasn't it you that keeps reminding posters that Ron Paultard isn't running this year? You're such a hypocrite. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
If you ask me, that's pretty doggone shallow. I judge a persons worth by how much I have to constantly help them... or if I have to help them due to intentional, reckless and willingness to make poor decisions... like drug use, breaking laws (whether an asshole like you agrees with the law or not), obtaining debt they can't pay off or doesn't work hard enough to be self sufficient. GFY, libtard. I'm allowed to not ENABLE the sheep by paying for their poorly lived lives. It's called a constitutional FREEDOM TO KEEP THE MONEY I MAKE. You pay for it if your heart bleeds. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Where is it in the Constitution? How do you make your money?
You and the other assclown I pinged opened the door to posting Ron Paul's stance when you opened your gaping maw and shrieked "Paultard".
Like I said, you are one shallow SOB judging others by their income. Psychologically well adjusted folks pick their friends for reasons not having to do with money. Character, loyalty, honesty, willingness to help in a time of need - concepts which are alien to those like you who are lacking intellectual and mental depth. Has there ever been anything the government has run that has not been corrupted by crony capitalism(socialism) and cost on par with privately run system? Government is a filter. When you send money to it 50% is taken right off the top and put in the pockets of fat cats. As a Christian how can you justify this? If government is the answer then you are asking the wrong question!
I bet there are 10 people that you know right now who have or are currently smoking pot. I'd also bet that if you found out, you would turn them in. Friends don't do shit like that. If I do not like what they offer I can always go to the next company. With government if I do not like what they offer im pretty much screwed. Government should protect us from outsiders, provide a system to seek justice with laws that are blind but equal to all citizens. Then the government should get out of the way to let people prosper. Never forget government is the biggest mafia of all mafia's. Keep their power concise and few.
I really don't GAS what that "has been" who could get only one bill passed in all his time in Congress has to say. As for Trump, I will wait to see his detailed plans AFTER he is IN office, and then I will comment on that.
Really? Then why the clinical obsession? The fact remains - you make shit up about Ron Paul all the time. Trump has said he doesn’t support Obamacare but does believe the government should pay for health insurance for all. “I wanna get rid of Obamacare. I want to get you something good,” he said at the rally. He didn’t offer specifics. Ron Paul disagrees. You support Trump, therefore you support his plan for universal health care. I guess it's socialism only when Obama does it. Name ONE ...
Really? Then why the clinical obsession? Rubbing the truth in your ignorant face Is not a clinical obsession ... I do so, even knowing that you can't handle the truth.
Name ONE ... Already posted you asswipe I've caught you in at least two lies today. You have been doing it since the days of LP. Your most shining moment was the multiple screen names and deception you engaged in during the yukon debacle. Also - you and the rest of the Klan posted lies about Ron Paul over at LP. I've caught you in at least two lies today. Name ONE ...
Name ONE ... Already posted you asswipe Link to IT ...
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Some 58 percent of Americans support universal healthcare,
#2. To: Willie Green (#0)
Majority of Americans support universal healthcare
#3. To: Willie Green, All (#0)
Some 58 percent of respondents support replacing ObamaCare with a universal healthcare system,
#4. To: SOSO (#3)
they will change their mind if they have to pay for it.
#5. To: ConservingFreedom (#4)
They think "the rich" will pay for it - along with all sorts of other free shit.
#6. To: Willie Green (#0)
#7. To: A Pole (#5)
Middle class is evaporating, while the rich and especially superich make a killing.
#8. To: A Pole (#5)
Certainly they can afford it.
#9. To: Gatlin (#1)
#10. To: Don (#9)
#11. To: A Pole, ConservingFreedom, All (#5)
#12. To: ConservingFreedom, Willie Green, sneakypete, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#8)
Certainly they can afford it.
#13. To: Justified (#6)
As my pappy said there is no such thing as free!!!
#14. To: SOSO (#11)
The more socialist the U.S. becomes the lower the education attainment.
#15. To: A Pole (#14)
The more socialist the U.S. becomes the lower the education attainment.
#16. To: SOSO (#15)
The more socialist the U.S. becomes the lower the education attainment.
#17. To: Willie Green (#0)
Majority of Americans support universal healthcare
#18. To: A Pole (#5)
Middle class is evaporating, while the rich and especially superich make a killing.
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
Your libtarded socialist OWS fear mongering doesn't work anymore. The 1% theory is bullshit.
#20. To: A Pole (#19)
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If you say so, it must be true ;)
#21. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#1)
Some 58 percent of Americans support universal healthcare,
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#22. To: Deckard (#21)
#23. To: GrandIsland (#20)
Select 100 RANDOM Apole friends you had 5 years ago ... tell me how many of them went from middle class to living on welfare... and if your fear mongering by pro socialist dip shits is true, for every 100 middle class people you know, you must know 1 millionaire that has more money than all 99 of your other friends.
#24. To: GrandIsland (#22)
More lies... and yella Paultard propaganda.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#25. To: GrandIsland, A Pole (#23)
you must know 1 millionaire that has more money than all 99 of your other friends.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#26. To: Deckard (#24)
Ron Paul is opposed to it. Which is also true.
#27. To: Deckard (#25)
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Interesting way of judging a person's worth, by how much money they make, not their character.
#28. To: GrandIsland (#27)
It's called a constitutional FREEDOM TO KEEP THE MONEY I MAKE.
#29. To: GrandIsland (#26)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#30. To: GrandIsland (#27)
I judge a persons worth by how much I have to constantly help them...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#31. To: paraclete (#13)
You are right, but it an entirely wrong concept to say that that which is paid by the taxpayer is free.
#32. To: GrandIsland (#27)
like drug use
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#33. To: paraclete (#13)
Let me ask you, would you refuse service if it was paid for by a benefactor, by an employer, why then would you refuse service paid for by a government on your behalf? Is it becuase you think that you will pay more in taxes than the value you extract, 18 Trillion dollars in debt gives the lie to this argument
#34. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#21)
#35. To: Gatlin (#34)
I really don't GAS
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#36. To: Deckard (#35)
The fact remains - you make shit up about Ron Paul all the time.
#37. To: Deckard (#35)
I really don't GAS
#38. To: Gatlin (#36)
The fact remains - you make shit up about Ron Paul all the time.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#39. To: Gatlin (#37)
Rubbing the truth in your ignorant face
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#40. To: Deckard (#39)
Rubbing the truth in your ignorant face
#41. To: Deckard (#38)
The fact remains - you make shit up about Ron Paul all the time.
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